Bundles, Seconds and Over-Runs

[fairwind]

While I enjoy name brand cigars, sometimes the loot is short so I buy bundled cigars, seconds or over-runs. I have found that these cigars are pretty good once they have been sitting in the humi for awhile.

I smoke everyday and 2 to 3 on Sat. & Sun. so it adds up pretty quick. By going to the lower priced brands I have been pleasantly surprised on more than once occasion.

Anyone Else?

Dan

[The Poet]

I used to order 2 or 3 bundles of Connies every month. These seconds from the Villazon factory (Hoyo, Punch, ERDM, Ultimate) were often "seconds" only because the wrappers were blotchy or off-color, and smoked and tasted just fine, thank you very much. At $25-$40/bundles of 25, they were, and still are, as close to a steal as one can find.

Hmmm, mebbe I should get me some right now! :ss

[ade06]

Nope not me... the more money I spend on a cigar means the better quality it must be. :r:r:r

[Kreth]

I primarily stock my humidor with lower-priced sticks like Perdomo Slow-aged or IT Super Fuerte, which I've found are as good or better than many "high end" smokes.
I take advantage of samplers or c bid to try out more expensive sticks.

[Dunkel]

:tpd:

I smoke a cigar or 2 everyday, so inexpensive cigars are my thing. Slow Aged 826 Maduro, IT Maduro and SF Mad., and a few others are my go to. I buy better cigars to add to trades so as not to offend.

[Lucky_Hippo]

Searching for a "diamond in the ruff" is one of my favoite past times. If I can find a low priced, off the radar smoke that turns out to be a winner, I've had a great day! It's like a mini victory for me. :wo

[kelmac07]

Searching for a "diamond in the ruff" is one of my favoite past times. If I can find a low priced, off the radar smoke that turns out to be a winner, I've had a great day! It's like a mini victory for me. :wo

:tpd: Tampa Sweetheart 500 maduros, Famous Nic 3000s are a few of the gems!!

[fairwind]

Well good to see I'm not the only one on the BB.

I broke down and bought a bundle of "Black Sheep" and 2 boxes of "Argyle" from Holts. I was surprised that they were pretty good. Good flavor and good burn.

The Honduran and Nicaragua over-runs needed lots of time in the humidor before burning right and tasting right.

Dan

[dentonparrots]

Troop Habano Robusto from Kioki Cigars are fantastic value for money, taste and smoke well too (can't wait to try some with age on them) and AndyMadera's Reserva MiraFlor's are great, top, really good!

[ChasDen]

Tampa Sweetheart 500 maduros, Famous Nic 3000s are a few of the gems!!

Yep thats a fact.

I have 3 bundles of the sweethearts but almost out of the 3000's.

Chas

[elderboy02]

Flor de Oliva Maduros are great :dr

[flat6nut]

Everyone knows I love me some Tampa Sweethearts in Maduro, not so much the naturals though. Have not had anything that comes close to the #500 Maduro under $10.

[Cigary]

I buy the best tasting cigars I can find and if they are seconds,,,no problem at all. If they are other cigars that are not the "in" cigars I don't care as long as it pleases me. Smoke what appeals to you,,,it doesn't have to be the popular cigars as I experiment and buy lots of other cigar brands. So far I have had cigars that are deemed "unknowns" to most but are very good cigars and that includes CC's.

[Gunslinger]

Roly's aren't a bad second if one prefers a medium to strong smoke.

[Whee]

I have to give props as well to Famous Nic 3000, Flor de Oliva's and the ITC Super Fuerte's.

A couple others that I like, that aren;t bad for an everyday stick. Especially if they rest for a little while:

Oliveros Classic
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/prodDisp.asp?item=CS-IZA&cat=3

CI Anniversary
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/prodDisp.asp?item=SP-4IA6052-15&cat=7

[Vance2]

I have a bundle of Flor de Oliva maduros in the humi at all times....it's a strange and wonderful thing when a bundle stick is as good or better than many others two or three times as expensive. It's perfect as an everyday smoke. Also just picked up a bundle of Riata maduros....jury is still out on those. Of the 10 or so I've smoked, sometimes I like them, sometimes I don't.

[SmokinApe]

Hand rolled long filler Don Pepin Garcia cigars at a great price...

http://www.holts.com/category.html?id=201800&trail=86665

[tobii3]

ruh roh...

you mean like this??

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/tobii3/aging002.jpg

:D

Right now in the cooler-dor I have Connies, La Floridita (CR & Nic), Flor de Oliva, Oliva Segundos, Famous, CFO......:dance:

[dunng]

Hand rolled long filler Don Pepin Garcia cigars at a great price...

http://www.holts.com/category.html?id=201800&trail=86665

:tpd: LHO's are GREAT! :tu

[borndead1]

Most of the NCs I smoke are bundles.

Famous Dominican 4000
Famous Nicaraguan 3000
Famous Honduran 5000
IT Super Fuerte bundles
La Floridita
Flor de Oliva Gold


There are lots of sub $2 gems out there. Ya just gotta look and take chances...and smoke quite a few dog rockets before finding the gems. :r

[ZenSilk]

I got a bundle of unbranded perfectos from TNTcigars, for about 45 bucks. They ended up being pretty delicious. Not very consistent, because 2 of the 7 I have smoked were... revolting (harsh, soapy, acrid) but the others were creamy, spicy, a bit sweet and very chocolatey. I feel I got a good deal. ;)

[Mr. Ed]

The Little Havana Overruns at Holt's are great. I would also recommend the Tropical Fever smokes from there as well. They only come in a thick robusto vitola, but if you're looking for a hearty Nicaraguan Puro, they're a great value.

[punch54]

consuegras agreat buy or la finka cassadors

[streetglide]

Well I'm sold. No sense in buying those highpriced $3 stick cigars, when I can be paying $2.50! :r

[ripper]

I am a hound for Rocky Patel Classic 2nds from Famous Smoke Shop. Have been their customer since 1970. If this smokes like a 2nds, then I am Barnacle Bill The Sailor. They are scrumptious!
The 2nds are Rocky Patel The Edge in maduro or corojo:
http://www.famous-smoke.com/brand/rp+classic+2nds+maduro+cigars

[The Poet]

Looks like tobii3 knows what I'm talkin' about - those Connies are a steal. :)

[Dunkel]

The Little Havana Overruns at Holt's are great. I would also recommend the Tropical Fever smokes from there as well. They only come in a thick robusto vitola, but if you're looking for a hearty Nicaraguan Puro, they're a great value.

Do those LHO III's have cellophanes on them? I ask because in my mind an un celloed cigar has a better chance of more people touching the cigar than one in a cello. I can handle the roller or the person putting the cello on it touching it, but the more people that touch it the less appealing it is to me. No cello means a much better chance someone scratched their a$$, jiggled their sack or skewered a nose nugget then touched the cigar I'm going to put in my mouth. :pu

[ade06]

Do those LHO III's have cellophanes on them? I ask because in my mind an un celloed cigar has a better chance of more people touching the cigar than one in a cello. I can handle the roller or the person putting the cello on it touching it, but the more people that touch it the less appealing it is to me. No cello means a much better chance someone scratched their a$$, jiggled their sack or skewered a nose nugget then touched the cigar I'm going to put in my mouth. :pu

A little Paranoid??? :r

[The Poet]

Yeah, what's a little body fluid amongst friends? :dr

[NCRadioMan]

Do those LHO III's have cellophanes on them? I ask because in my mind an un celloed cigar has a better chance of more people touching the cigar than one in a cello. I can handle the roller or the person putting the cello on it touching it, but the more people that touch it the less appealing it is to me. No cello means a much better chance someone scratched their a$$, jiggled their sack or skewered a nose nugget then touched the cigar I'm going to put in my mouth. :pu

Typically, there are about 400 pairs of hands that touch the tobacco that goes into making cigars.

If you touch a public doorknob or money, you are touching the most filthy things in the world with more germs than imaginable. Does that freak you out too?

[Dunkel]

My post was intended to be humorus. I guess with my lack of smilies and LOL's it came across as being paranoid or OCD like. (Tap Tap) Is this thing on? :confused:

[SmokinApe]

They are cello'd...

[Mr. Ed]

I personally wouldn't worry too much about things on the outside of the cigar. Plus, since the cello is added at the end of the process, I don't think it would make much of a difference between ones with it or without it.

I would be a lot more worried about strange things inside the cigar. I've read and heard about string, finger nails, splinters of wood. I even remember someone on here finding a rock/pebble in one of their cigars(but I think it was a 50-60 year old smoke though)

I have never gotten anything funky in any cigars I've smoked yet (keeping my fingers crossed while knocking on wood). As far as bundled smokes or over-runs go I don't think they'll have a greater chance of having anything strange inside or on the outside than regular production cigars, but they're cheaper and more of them are made so the probability does go up (minutely)

[DoctorBJ]

I like "Original Cubans" for this kinda smoke. Great for a friend who says they want a smoke, but I know damn well they'll barely touch it. They're also great when I'll be boating or someplace where they're more likely to get messed up.

[BlackDog]

I just got a bundle of Holts Little Havana Overruns. Should I let them age a bit before smoking, or are they good to go?

[Wharf Rat]

The LHO IIIs I've gotten were fine after a few days resting from their trip. I'd tell you about aging but I'm smoking them too quick!:dr

[vankleekkw]

I love the LHO, LHO Lights, LHO III, Famous Maduritos, C. Com (Brazilian, Corojo, Cuban, and Cameroon) for the budget minded.

[BlackDog]

What Dominican bundle smoke do you guys like? Do Famous or Holts have a Dominican with some good flavor and 'body'?
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[Mr. Ed]

What Dominican bundle smoke do you guys like? Do Famous or Holts have a Dominican with some good flavor and 'body'?
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La Aurora Leoninos at CI is a fantastic Dominican smoke with a corojo wrapper. They have a good flavor and are medium-bodied. This isn't a bundle or a second, but they are priced the same.

While we're at it. Magellan Dominicans are a nice small mil change of pace cigar. Smooth and pretty tasty considering they're at 55 cents per.

[maverickdrinker]

ON the cuban side, Jose L Piedra Petit Cazadores

LHOs are great ROTT. Gotta slow down on these as I am firing them up way too quick.

[Starscream]

Typically, there are about 400 pairs of hands that touch the tobacco that goes into making cigars.

If you touch a public doorknob or money, you are touching the most filthy things in the world with more germs than imaginable. Does that freak you out too?

I know, but don't remind me, Greg...

[maverickdrinker]

Just ordered 2 more bundles of the LHO coronas and 1 bundle of the robustos.

They are running out of the coronas. They estimate that they will be out of them in the next couple of weeks. You might want to pull the trigger if you were thinking of ordering them.

[Chemyst]

I liked the Consuegra No. 9 maduros, and occasionally
buy the RP X-Outs Liga 'C' from the devil site. The
RPs are seconds of the Olde World Reserve, which are
some of my favs, but they need sleep for 6-12 mos.

Chemyst :cool2:

[bookman]

La Aurora seconds cameroon can be bought for about $30 for 25 sticks. Try Holts.

[Mr. Ed]

La Aurora seconds cameroon can be bought for about $30 for 25 sticks. Try Holts.

You can also get 30 for $35 at CI!:tu

[bookman]

La Aurora Leoninos at CI is a fantastic Dominican smoke with a corojo wrapper. They have a good flavor and are medium-bodied. This isn't a bundle or a second, but they are priced the same.

While we're at it. Magellan Dominicans are a nice small mil change of pace cigar. Smooth and pretty tasty considering they're at 55 cents per.

True dat! These are amazing somokes @ about 25/$30 from CI. Oily and stronger than most Doms. For my $ any la Aurora second/ economy priced stick is better than a lot of premium smokes.

[bookman]

True dat! These are amazing somokes @ about 25/$30 from CI. Oily and stronger than most Doms. For my $ any la Aurora second/ economy priced stick is better than a lot of premium smokes.

Mr. Ed. I'm a big la Aurora fan. I've got some maduro and cameroon perfectos would trade for other blends if interested PM me.

[bookman]

I know, but don't remind me, Greg...

And think of all those un celloed sticks that get the nose treatment from finicky customers.:D

Tobacconists should pass out gloves and masks like they do in rare book rooms!:r

[eboniknight]

I primarily stock my humidor with lower-priced sticks like Perdomo Slow-aged or IT Super Fuerte, which I've found are as good or better than many "high end" smokes.
I take advantage of samplers or c bid to try out more expensive sticks.

Those Perdomo Slow-Aged are surprisingly good smokes......especially for the money. I've got 2 left resting in the humi right now.....time for a refill. :D

[wayner123]

I have always enjoyed a good punch and the seconds of that the Consuegra is no exception. I used to smoke mainly seconds and bundles and it's hard to beat a Consuegra Natural or maduro.

I don't know if you have ever been to Lynn cigars, but they have pretty much every "seconds" cigar. And imo the Davidoff seconds bundles are a great deal if you like Davidoff. Same tobacco, less than half the price.

http://www.lynncigars.com/BrandList(short).html

[dogface_313]

I have got to say, that in my young cigar smoking career; i have found nothing better than Tampa Sweethearts for the money.

[kelmac07]

I have got to say, that in my young cigar smoking career; i have found nothing better than Tampa Sweethearts for the money.

Very wise Noob right there!! :tu

[njstone]

I'm all about the Perdomo ESV 2nds ... dang good cigars. The RP Vintage '92 seconds are great too, and the x-out C (OWR) are good but not quite the real thing, imvho.

[BeerAdvocate]

I really like the Fumadors from Holts for $30 a box!!

[Mr. Ed]

Had a Palma Real toro earlier today. For a buck a stick I would say it's worth it. Nice mild flavor, never turned harsh, good burn, nice draw. Good if you just want something to toss around.

[kenstogie]

It seems as though many of us here like the seconds. Me included. Especially the RP Vintage seconds and the Consuegras. My question is are the first rate ones that pass muster any better and if so by how much??

[captain53]

I have bought a few to try and like the Famous Nic 3000's but most others have let me down and also use a lot of humi room having to age them for months. Lately I have realized if I shop Monster & CI daily specials, etc I can buy some pretty nice stuff for $3 and under that are usually better than the bundle stuff. :2

[Mr. Ed]

It seems as though many of us here like the seconds. Me included. Especially the RP Vintage seconds and the Consuegras. My question is are the first rate ones that pass muster any better and if so by how much??

Wrapper quality and appearance mostly are what's better. Better construction not as plugged? Maybe

[dubs chops]

Everyone knows I love me some Tampa Sweethearts in Maduro, not so much the naturals though. Have not had anything that comes close to the #500 Maduro under $10.

Where can I order some of these at? I googled and couldn't find anything.

[Tripp]

Where can I order some of these at? I googled and couldn't find anything.

http://www.tampasweethearts.com/

seems to be down at the moment though :confused:

[ade06]

http://www.tampasweethearts.com/

seems to be down at the moment though :confused:

Try again, it was up for me.

[dubs chops]

I have it figured out now. I need to try one out I think before ordering a whole bundle, can you buy them in singles anywhere?

[Kreth]

I really like the Fumadors from Holts for $30 a box!!
Do they run specials on these, or did the price jump up recently? Cheapest is $41.95 for the #1s in the new catalog. Debating between these (#2s, probably) and the LHOs...
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[Tripp]

Do they run specials on these, or did the price jump up recently? Cheapest is $41.95 for the #1s in the new catalog. Debating between these (#2s, probably) and the LHOs...
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They go on a weekend, or weekly special every few months. last time it was a catalog special meaning that it lasted about a month, for $29.99 for any size.

[Kreth]

They go on a weekend, or weekly special every few months. last time it was a catalog special meaning that it lasted about a month, for $29.99 for any size.
Let me guess, the catalog special was last month? :r
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[kenstogie]

Torano Domincos
Bought a bundle of 20 of these for about 20 bucks from the devil sight and it's turning out to be agreat value. Not an awesome cigar but still it's a damn good cigar and for a buck it's a great value.

[whodeeni]

PM Me and i'll send you a couple in the natural wrapper....
Maybe another brother can hook "Both of us up in a maduro"... ;)

I wasn't that impressed with the natural wrapper...

I have it figured out now. I need to try one out I think before ordering a whole bundle, can you buy them in singles anywhere?

[whodeeni]

U guys know who makes a bundle called Fumas?
It has a brown label with white letters...

I've heard rumors that it RP, but i'm not really sure

[Tripp]

U guys know who makes a bundle called Fumas?
It has a brown label with white letters...

I've heard rumors that it RP, but i'm not really sure

Sounds like RP Fumas. I think they were exclusive to CI, but they don't seem to be available anymore, as they don't have them on the site.

Was this them? http://www.cigarbid.com/auction/lot.cfm?lotID=695299

[Kreth]

Forgot to post that I scored a bundle of Taboo Value Blend for $10.25 shipped from Taboo's auction.
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[Kreth]

Famous Nic 3000s are back in stock. I've been wanting to try these for a while, so I snagged a bundle.
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[Gary]

Very tempting, as a noob my humidor is quite empty, this might help fill it up.

Famous Nic 3000s are back in stock. I've been wanting to try these for a while, so I snagged a bundle.
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[issues]

Very tempting, as a noob my humidor is quite empty, this might help fill it up.

Gary, when I first got my humidor the way I filled it up was with samplers and 5 packs.

Along with buying singles, I was able to get a nice variety of cigars without spending too much and was slowly able to figure out which ones I liked before I started "investing" in boxes.

Bundles, Seconds and over-runs are nice if you've tried the cigars they were originally supposed to be and liked them but if you haven't, you could end up with a bundle of sticks you don't care for and can't get rid of.

Just something to think about on your way down that slope. :tu

:ss

[kenstogie]

Famous Nic 3000s are back in stock. I've been wanting to try these for a while, so I snagged a bundle.
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I have only good things about these. MUST RESIST, MUST Resist, must resist....

[mcmoyer]

I have only good things about these. MUST RESIST, MUST Resist, must resist....

So, how many did you buy?

:r

[Kreth]

Got my Nic 3000s (one of the perks of being in NY: 1 day ground shipping from Famous, CI, and Holt's). They smell great, and I was suprised to find a couple of free Tabak Especial Negras in the box. No mention of this when I placed the order. Free cigars are cool. :tu
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[captain53]

Famous Nic 3000s are back in stock. I've been wanting to try these for a while, so I snagged a bundle.
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Good Bundle Smokes - but that said they need a nice long rest before they reach that point. Experience finds that 6 months to a year is good for them.

[druturn]

Gary, when I first got my humidor the way I filled it up was with samplers and 5 packs.

Btw, buying "mega-samplers" from CI is an incredibly cheap way of trying out a variety of smokes without breaking the bank but still filling up the humidor. Before investing in a single box, it gives you around 20 gars with 4-5 different blends in each sampler for the price of about $2.50-4 a stick(with many of them retailing for more than double or triple that, and just some great go-to sticks in general). Even though I have been smoking for about two years now, I have yet to make a single box purchase(but that is happening as soon as I return to the states :) ). I have solely purchased mega-samplers, 5'ers and singles but I don't regret it. It has provided me with experiencing dozens of different blends without emptying my wallet and now I have enough knowledge as to what blend I love and will buy by the box.

/end CI praise

[kenstogie]

So, how many did you buy?

:r
I resisted but bought a box of 601 oscuros. I have had 2 of those and both were fantastic. The devil stikes again.one day shipping is great at no extra charge. :)
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[The Postman]

I scored a great deal on Indian Tabac SF Maduros a month or so ago on the monster. I think they came out to about 3 bucks a piece for 6 x 50's, and boy are they smoking great.

[Kreth]

I scored a great deal on Indian Tabac SF Maduros a month or so ago on the monster. I think they came out to about 3 bucks a piece for 6 x 50's, and boy are they smoking great.
Current CI catalog has 20 of the SF maddie toros for $39.99, and you can add a 5er of the natural robustos for another buck. :tu
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[G G]

If I had the cash I would def be down for that deal Jeff.:tu

[Kreth]

If I had the cash I would def be down for that deal Jeff.:tu
The catalog expires on Friday for some reason, so I'm gonna jump on it if I have any cash left after V-Day shopping. These are one of my golf sticks, and if I get them now, they'll be smoking great come golf season.
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[G G]

I don't think I have had but one IT that I didn't care much for. That was the Classic (I think) it's a corojo if I remember correctly, and I didn't care for corojo early on, but have found that maybe I do like them now. So maybe soon I will try another one and see if I do indeed like it now.

[Tripp]

Do they run specials on these, or did the price jump up recently? Cheapest is $41.95 for the #1s in the new catalog. Debating between these (#2s, probably) and the LHOs...
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Fumadores on sale! $30 for any size.

http://www.holts.com/category.html?id=201378&trail=201274

[kenstogie]

Fumadores on sale! $30 for any size.

http://www.holts.com/category.html?id=201378&trail=201274

These are "sandwich" cigars, made/blended by DPG and are pretty good value for the $$$. JMHO.

[SmokingPoker]

New the site (joined like 2 days ago) and gotta say....

This thread is one of the best going. Keep it going boys...assembling my list right now and making those coolidor plans....smoke once a week....HAH, every frickin day now!

[whodeeni]

Now we know what that "Barnyard Funk" really is... "Nutsack Musk!" :r:r:r

Do those LHO III's have cellophanes on them? I ask because in my mind an un celloed cigar has a better chance of more people touching the cigar than one in a cello. I can handle the roller or the person putting the cello on it touching it, but the more people that touch it the less appealing it is to me. No cello means a much better chance someone scratched their a$$, jiggled their sack or skewered a nose nugget then touched the cigar I'm going to put in my mouth. :pu

Typically, there are about 400 pairs of hands that touch the tobacco that goes into making cigars.

If you touch a public doorknob or money, you are touching the most filthy things in the world with more germs than imaginable. Does that freak you out too?

[whodeeni]

Question.... Which are better? The Tabacos Baez SF Maddies, or these Holt's
Fumadores? and also what are the differences.... Fumadores looks like a Criollo
wrapper... Just asking because the benchmade have a tannic/espresso profile
to them... Maybe they get better w/ age. I'll have to pull one out.

These are "sandwich" cigars, made/blended by DPG and are pretty good value for the $$$. JMHO.

[bobarian]

Question.... Which are better? The Tabacos Baez SF Maddies, or these Holt's
Fumadores? and also what are the differences.... Fumadores looks like a Criollo
wrapper... Just asking because the benchmade have a tannic/espresso profile
to them... Maybe they get better w/ age. I'll have to pull one out.

Kind of hard to compare a $140 box of TB to a $40box of short fillers. :rolleyes:

[kenstogie]

Excel,
Can't say I'd ever had the TB Sf's but after looking at the prices I would say more than likely the Fumadores would win, especially at 30 bucks a bundle compared to 135-145 prices for the TB SF's on CI.

[Tripp]

Kind of hard to compare a $140 box of TB to a $40box of short fillers. :rolleyes:

He was asking about the difference between $40 box of Fumadores, and a $40 box of TB SF.

I MUCH prefer the Fumadores. They have a significantly better flavor, and better construction IMO. The Tobacos Baez SF have a little of the tanic flavor that Benchmades have.

[kenstogie]

Forgot to add that out of the box these are ok but these cigars shine after 3 months or so rest.

[bobarian]

Question.... Which are better? The Tabacos Baez SF Maddies, or these Holt's
Fumadores? and also what are the differences.... Fumadores looks like a Criollo
wrapper... Just asking because the benchmade have a tannic/espresso profile
to them... Maybe they get better w/ age. I'll have to pull one out.

I must be frickin ignorant! I looked at the first(primary)question asked. :rolleyes:

[postjack]

put me in with the RP vintage 2nds fans. I'm a 1990 guy myself. the PCs are my perfect go to quick smoke. I bought a box of 1990 PCs for cheap on cbid, and plan on just refilling it with 2nds. they aren't as pretty but they taste great, and are constantly up on cbid.

[whodeeni]

Thanks Trip! Bundle or two of Fumadore's will be on the way today or tomorrow! *lol* I really love your Signature line! Wow! You think the
fumadores are made with mix filler from the Tatuaje Brown Line?

He was asking about the difference between $40 box of Fumadores, and a $40 box of TB SF.

I MUCH prefer the Fumadores. They have a significantly better flavor, and better construction IMO. The Tobacos Baez SF have a little of the tanic flavor that Benchmades have.

[tomc3084]

If you haven't tried Por Larranaga Panetelas($50.00) or Rafael Gonzalez Panetelas Extras($40.00), I really suggest you do. They are all handmade short filler, from their other cigars. They are a great everyday 45 minute smoke, maybe more depending on how quick you smoke. The construction on some of them suck along with a bad draw on a couple out of the box, but besides that they are worth every penny and more IMHO, I would probably actually pay x2 of what they cost...you will not be disappointed I guarantee you.......

[tomc3084]

whodenni-
no they def not be from the tat brown line, if they were it would be a tat cigar(like the serie p), this is a dpg cigar, so it would be from his stuff. I would def be interested in knowing how these taste. please do a review when you get them in!

[nofeardiver]

I think Fumas is made by Padilla? i bought a bundle of them from CI for like $19, they are actually decent mild smokes... they are what i would call a yard stick...

[Killian]

Ive been smoking some Flor de Olivas that I got last summer. I must say....they have completely changed. The first couple that I smoked when I got them were terrible. Now after a little rest they are smoking and tasting great. I might have to get another bundle and put it down for a nap while Im still working on the current one.

[N2 GOLD]

I always keep 2-3 bundles of Rosa Cuba. My picks are the Governors & Herencia. I always get them from JR Cigars you can get both bundles rught now for $34.90 for both. Put them in the humi for some age & they do get better with time. At $0.80 & $0.95 each, you cant beat that... -(P

[taltos]

I don't smoke real expensive cigars, the taste is the comfort thing for me. My high ends are Oliva V's and Masterblends. I love bundle/less expensive smokes that taste great such as Perdomo2 Mistakes in maduro, these are the original Perdomo2 at a lower price than I can buy the new Perdomo2 which I also love. Another great bundle smoke is the El Cobre, strong with a distinct yet classic Oliva flavor and the smell will keep people from bothering you. I have also found Omar Ortez Originals at Cigar Place in 20 cigar bundles. As far as seconds, love the Rocky Vintage 1992's when I can find them and any of the Rocky unlabeled seconds from Cigars International, all 4 varities are quite good. The Famous Nic 3000's are also worth keeping in stock.

[alfredo_buscatti]

I've smoked three value cigars. In descending order, Mayorga Maduro Torpedo, Nica Libre and Flor de Oliva. I've smoked three or four boxes of the Mayorga. I love them! To me they compete quite well with more expensive Nicaraguan cigars. @ ~$60.00 for a box of 20, compare to $150.00 to $200.00/box.

[BlackDog]

I dug this thread up from the cellar, and thought it was very interesting, well worth reading for those who have to buy their cigars on a budget. However, some of the cigars no longer seem to be available (Taboo Value Blend & LHO's from Holt's, for example). I have 2 questions:

1) Can you recommend a nice bundle/second/overrun medium bodied cigar with a Connecticut wrapper for me? My wife enjoys an occasional cigar and this would work for her.

2) Are there other worthy bundles/seconds/overrun cigars that have come out since 2009 when this thread began? Any new surpises that you've discovered?

[Robulous78]

OHHHH DUDE... someone needs to get you on some Ligero laced 2nd's from CI pronto...

they are basically cain 2nds... the h is the habano, D- Daytona, M- Maduro, F- F... etc.

check em out Ligero Laced 2nds (http://www.cigarsinternational.com/cigars/10588/nicaraguan-ligero-laced-2nds/)

Bundles of 15, reasonably priced, perfect yard gars all the way... :banger

[TXRebel]

1) Can you recommend a nice bundle/second/overrun medium bodied cigar with a Connecticut wrapper for me? My wife enjoys an occasional cigar and this would work for her.

I haven't had one in about 5 years, but if I remember right the Flor De Oliva Gold (http://www.atlanticcigar.com/All-Cigars/Oliva-Flor-De-Oliva-Bundles-Gold-Robusto.asp) was a decent stick. I prefer their maduros.

[poriggity]

OHHHH DUDE... someone needs to get you on some Ligero laced 2nd's from CI pronto...

they are basically cain 2nds... the h is the habano, D- Daytona, M- Maduro, F- F... etc.

check em out Ligero Laced 2nds (http://www.cigarsinternational.com/cigars/10588/nicaraguan-ligero-laced-2nds/)

Bundles of 15, reasonably priced, perfect yard gars all the way... :banger

Great point! I really need to save my pennies and buy multiple bundles of these. I got the chance to smoke the Liga F lancero, and the Cain F lancero side by side, one after another, and they were pretty dang close to identical.

[Lockspur]

AJ Fernandez Overruns at CI. The coronas are $2 a stick.

[dijit]

These wont fit the Connecticut wrapper criteria but they are a great low cost alternative to the Alec Bradley tempus. This AB second actually rated higher than the firsts a coupld of years ago.

http://www.famous-smoke.com/alec+bradley+supervisor+selection+belicoso+cigars/item+29561

[ntempleton]

However, some of the cigars no longer seem to be available (Taboo Value Blend & LHO's from Holt's, for example). I have 2 questions:


Good bundles seem to be getting harder to find. I've been trolling the devil site far to much lately trying to satisfy my value cigar ich, with little success.