Nicaraguan Vs. Honduran Vs. Dominican

[smitty81]

I was wondering if someone might be able to explain the different flavor profiles to me a little so I can understand what I am buying.

I tried to research on my own a little but wasn't coming up with to much to help me out.

[pnoon]

I was wondering if someone might be able to explain the different flavor profiles to me a little so I can understand what I am buying.

I tried to research on my own a little but wasn't coming up with to much to help me out.

Smoke 'em and decide for yourself.
Really.

[Islayphile]

I was wondering if someone might be able to explain the different flavor profiles to me a little so I can understand what I am buying.

I tried to research on my own a little but wasn't coming up with to much to help me out.

Smoke 'em and decide for yourself.
Really.

Well said

You really have to try the smokes individually to get an accurate portayal.

Nicaraguans tend to be potent, but not all of them....Dominicans can range from very mild to Opus X levels of strength

All the while the flavor profiles vary widely.

Try them all, that's the fun part

:tu

[oooo35980]

I've actually been meaning to grab some Puros of each for sort of a personal blind tasting of several different Mar as over a period of a week or so. Unfortunately I suck at articulating what flavors I can taste in a cigar, had a Tatuaje last night and I swear I tasted peanut butter, coffee, and diesel fuel (none of them unpleasant mind you). You should do the same if you want to classify cigars, no one else's classifications have helped me all that much, time for independant research :tu

[Taki]

I am a fan of Nicaraguan but definitely try a couple of each and you will get a better feel for which you prefer :tu

[Islayphile]

I am a fan of Nicaraguan but definitely try a couple of each and you will get a better feel for which you prefer :tu

I thought you were more of the Marlboro Light kind?

:D


Nicaraguans are my favorite as well

[JenksAnejo]

All cigars will be different, The Aging Room Presto M356 is a Dominican Puro as is the OPUS X and they taste nothing alike.

[MurphysLaw]

Smoke 'em and decide for yourself.
Really.

:tpd: A LOT of factors go into the taste of cigar, not just the location of where the plants are grown. The only way to know if you are going to like a cigar is to smoke it. While there may be certain characteristics that may be similar in cigars of a particular region, there is almost always an exception to the rule.

[oooo35980]

I don't mean to hijack your thread, but if you guys had to pick 3 cigars (Puros) from each different country that best exemplified that countries tobacco, what would they be? Is that even possible?

[pnoon]

I don't mean to hijack your thread, but if you guys had to pick 3 cigars (Puros) from each different country that best exemplified that countries tobacco, what would they be? Is that even possible?

If you didn't mean to hijack the thread, why did you do it anyway?
Your question is a good one. But why not start a different thread?
Otherwise this is just another banter thread.
:2

[shilala]

To me, Nic puros are dark and earthy, dominican puros are sweet and spicy, and Honduran tobacco sucks, it has no character, and is mainly sweet musty air.
Ecuadoran tobacco is bitter to me and Mexican tobacco is just odd and put-offish, most times.

[oooo35980]

;s

[pnoon]

;s

It's all good. Just trying to redirect traffic where appropriate.

[replicant_argent]

First of all, try them on different days, sampling on the same day is not only exhausting, but can be fraught with danger.
Secondly, buy them dinner first, engage in some light conversation, while asking some pointed questions to get some idea of their personality.
Third? A cocktail or two may help your success rate.

[smitty81]

First of all, try them on different days, sampling on the same day is not only exhausting, but can be fraught with danger.
Secondly, buy them dinner first, engage in some light conversation, while asking some pointed questions to get some idea of their personality.
Third? A cocktail or two may help your success rate.

:r

[Islayphile]

First of all, try them on different days, sampling on the same day is not only exhausting, but can be fraught with danger.
Secondly, buy them dinner first, engage in some light conversation, while asking some pointed questions to get some idea of their personality.
Third? A cocktail or two may help your success rate.

:r

Also helps if you speak spanish


Having the right drink with a smoke can make a HUGE difference AFAIC....pairing that with the right smoke is like a little slice of heaven

[Malazan]

How is tobbaco strength measured?

i.e.

Ligero, Criollo, etc.

How do they rank, from mildest, to strongest?

[awsmith4]

This can also be complicated by cigars being labeled as a Honduran because that is where it is made but it uses all Nicaraguan tobacco. Or a Dominican Made cigar that has an Ecuadorian wrapper, Dominican binder, and fillers from Costa Rica, Mexico, Honduras and Nicaragua. Then you have Connecticut, Sumatran, and Cameroon tobacco as well.

My recommendation would be to try various cigars and then research what was in them. If you like it make a note and look for similar cigars. I for one like cigars with Ecuadorian/Connecticut Shade wrappers with Nicaraguan binder and filler (ie Cabaiguan, 601 Black). Now knowing this if I saw some new cigar that had those components I might buy it. But just because a cigar has those leaves doesn't mean its a sure thing for me as I tried the Perdomo Habano Connecticut and it didn't suit me.

[T.G]

How is tobbaco strength measured?

i.e.

Ligero, Criollo, etc.

How do they rank, from mildest, to strongest?

As with the earlier request for recommendations of cigars from the various countries, your question really needs it's own thread.

[Blak Smyth]

This can also be complicated by cigars being labeled as a Honduran because that is where it is made but it uses all Nicaraguan tobacco. Or a Dominican Made cigar that has an Ecuadorian wrapper, Dominican binder, and fillers from Costa Rica, Mexico, Honduras and Nicaragua. Then you have Connecticut, Sumatran, and Cameroon tobacco as well.

My recommendation would be to try various cigars and then research what was in them. If you like it make a note and look for similar cigars. I for one like cigars with Ecuadorian/Connecticut Shade wrappers with Nicaraguan binder and filler (ie Cabaiguan, 601 Black). Now knowing this if I saw some new cigar that had those components I might buy it. But just because a cigar has those leaves doesn't mean its a sure thing for me as I tried the Perdomo Habano Connecticut and it didn't suit me.

This was a great post!

[lenguamor]

By far the strongest cigar tobacco being grown is in the Esteli region of Nicaragua; the strongest leaf there is not the ligero, as most think, but the medio tiempo, a leaf so potent that it just about knocked out four souls who sampled it by itself on the Hernandez Bros. tour.

Next is the Jalapa region in Nicaragua; slightly less powerful than Esteli leaf but still powerful.

Honduras tobacco tends to just be very rough, both in taste and in texture. For the most part Scott is right—it can be a chore to smoke, as in the Humo Jaguar, which I found harsh. But George Rico's Gran Habano is making some yummy cigars out of Honduran leaf, sample them if you get a chance.

Mexico...what can you say. I wouldn't smoke anything made in Mexico nor made with Mexican leaf.

But the guys are right: the joy of discovery lies in experimentation. Smoke for yourself.

[Pseudosacred]

I'm not really that experianced, but I'll share my little knowledge. Keep in mind, a cigar tastes different to every person that tastes it.

Nicaraguan, so far, is my favorite. Sometimes they beat me down with vitamin N, but they taste really deep.

Dominicans are spicy and almost...sweet(?) I really like the Dominican. The only problem, to me, is that I haven't had one that really excited me.

Hondurans, I've smoked 2. Both of them sucked. I'm really closed off to them now...which is probably bad. They were both just...gross.

Counter acting my point above, one of my favorite smokes is the MOW Ruination. If my memory is right, that stick is Honduran and Nicaraguan. Either way...it's soooo good. Puro Hondurans just don't float my boat

[Pseudosacred]

Wait a minute...I had a Gran Habano that I really enjoyed. It was a cedar wrapped one. So good I bought two. I guess that's Honduran?

[awsmith4]

By far the strongest cigar tobacco being grown is in the Esteli region of Nicaragua; the strongest leaf there is not the ligero, as most think, but the medio tiempo, a leaf so potent that it just about knocked out four souls who sampled it by itself on the Hernandez Bros. tour.

Next is the Jalapa region in Nicaragua; slightly less powerful than Esteli leaf but still powerful.

Honduras tobacco tends to just be very rough, both in taste and in texture. For the most part Scott is right—it can be a chore to smoke, as in the Humo Jaguar, which I found harsh. But George Rico's Gran Habano is making some yummy cigars out of Honduran leaf, sample them if you get a chance.

Mexico...what can you say. I wouldn't smoke anything made in Mexico nor made with Mexican leaf.

But the guys are right: the joy of discovery lies in experimentation. Smoke for yourself.

Isn't the Padron Anniversary Maduro wrapper from Mexico? I would smoke those.

[JenksAnejo]

This can also be complicated by cigars being labeled as a Honduran because that is where it is made but it uses all Nicaraguan tobacco. Or a Dominican Made cigar that has an Ecuadorian wrapper, Dominican binder, and fillers from Costa Rica, Mexico, Honduras and Nicaragua. Then you have Connecticut, Sumatran, and Cameroon tobacco as well.

My recommendation would be to try various cigars and then research what was in them. If you like it make a note and look for similar cigars. I for one like cigars with Ecuadorian/Connecticut Shade wrappers with Nicaraguan binder and filler (ie Cabaiguan, 601 Black). Now knowing this if I saw some new cigar that had those components I might buy it. But just because a cigar has those leaves doesn't mean its a sure thing for me as I tried the Perdomo Habano Connecticut and it didn't suit me.


Very good post!

[T.G]

Isn't the Padron Anniversary Maduro wrapper from Mexico?

No. It's grown in Nicaragua at their farms. Just like all their other tobacco.

[Stephen]

To me, Nic puros are dark and earthy, dominican puros are sweet and spicy, and Honduran tobacco sucks, it has no character, and is mainly sweet musty air.
Ecuadoran tobacco is bitter to me and Mexican tobacco is just odd and put-offish, most times.
To be fair, there are some smokes out there that have a Mexican maduro wrapper that I enjoy. But all in all I agree with this.

[Islayphile]

No. It's grown in Nicaragua at their farms. Just like all their other tobacco.

I've heard that rumor of Mexican wrapper being spread around too

I always asumed it was just that...rumor

[awsmith4]

No. It's grown in Nicaragua at their farms. Just like all their other tobacco.

I didn't know it was a rumor, I thought it had been advertised as such. Shows how much I know.

EDIT: I found where I read it, Cigars International had the Nica Libre listed as a San Andres maduro leaf just like the Padron Anniversary. I had no prejudice towards Mexican tobacco so I just assumed they it as truth. I did not see it as a dig to Padron.

[T.G]

I've heard that rumor of Mexican wrapper being spread around too

I always asumed it was just that...rumor

It's one of those that never seems to die either.


I didn't know it was a rumor, I thought it had been advertised as such. Shows how much I know.

It might very well have been advertised as such, accidentally.

Kind of like what happened with the Liga Privada No.9's. Due to a press error, they were originally billed as having Dominican tobacco in the filler. There isn't any Dominican tobacco in there, never has been, and even though the error was corrected pretty quickly, that one little bit of misinformation keeps popping up all over the place on the internet, even today, many years after it was corrected.

Certainly not your fault bro.

[awsmith4]

I guess actually it was from Cigar.com

http://cigarreviews.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/a-guide-to-maduro-wrapper-from-cigar-com/

[T.G]

EDIT: I found where I read it, Cigars International had the Nica Libre listed as a San Andres maduro leaf just like the Padron Anniversary. I had no prejudice towards Mexican tobacco so I just assumed they it as truth. I did not see it as a dig to Padron.

I think what they meant was that the tastes appear similar to them.

I'm not seeing that in their current ad copy (http://www.cigarsinternational.com/prodDisp.asp?item=CS-NLB&cat=3) on the website right now, but I can easily see them as having written one thing and meant another, they work pretty fast over there and most people wear multiple hats, so things sometimes slip by and end up getting corrected later when someone points it out.

[awsmith4]

http://www.cigar.com/cigars/viewCigar.asp?brand=745

They say "almost identical", cleverly deceptive :rolleyes:

[T.G]

I guess actually it was from Cigar.com

http://cigarreviews.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/a-guide-to-maduro-wrapper-from-cigar-com/


Albert, you don't need to defend yourself over the issue, I was just simply correcting the information, not accusing you of anything.

Anyway, that blogger is mistaken. Shocking.

Cigar.com's website does leave quite a bit of room for misinterpretation though:
"Rolled with a dark, oily San Andres maduro wrapper (almost identical to the wrapper used on Padron's Anniversary Maduro)"

It's a different strain of tobacco, grown in a different country, processed differently. "Almost identical" my ass.

[Islayphile]

http://www.cigar.com/cigars/viewCigar.asp?brand=745

They say "almost identical", cleverly deceptive :rolleyes:

In that particular case they're trying to get you to buy the Nica Libre as an inexpensive alternative to Padrons.

Hint: They're not

;)

[T.G]

http://www.cigar.com/cigars/viewCigar.asp?brand=745

They say "almost identical", cleverly deceptive :rolleyes:

I would guess that to someone over there, they taste similar. I don't think they do, but I don't have a warehouse with 100,000 Nica Libres in it that I need to sell yesterday.

[Adriftpanda]

If you close your eyes and pinch your nose, I heard The Gurkha Viper taste just like a Padron 26th maduro. Tom will vouch for this as well.

[awsmith4]

I would guess that to someone over there, they taste similar. I don't think they do, but I don't have a warehouse with 100,000 Nica Libres in it that I need to sell yesterday.

I need to stop reading cigar catalogs while in the bathroom. I will now go back to CCs and leave the NC world alone.

[T.G]

I need to stop reading cigar catalogs while in the bathroom. I will now go back to CCs and leave the NC world alone.

:r:r:r

NC cigar catalogs can be a ton of fun to read, especially when they start laying it on thick.

[icehog3]

If you close your eyes and pinch your nose, I heard The Gurkha Viper taste just like a Padron 26th maduro. Tom will vouch for this as well.

MMMM....Gurkha Viper. Scrumptuous.

[icehog3]

Three tobaccos enter, one tobacco leaves.

[replicant_argent]

MMMM....Gurkha Viper. Scrumptuous.

Duly Noted.

[icehog3]

Duly Noted.

Newly Doted.

[LigaPrivadaT84]

I enjoy more Nicaraguans than Dominicans; but both have good offerings.
Wouldn't turn down a cigar from either country...

[jluck]

All they have to do is be willing...I would have any of the three....Mmmmm tan skin....Uh I mean wrappers.

[Ervsuperb]

I am a fan of Nicaraguan but definitely try a couple of each and you will get a better feel for which you prefer :tu

This...

[Wharf Rat]

I need to stop reading cigar catalogs while in the bathroom. I will now go back to CCs and leave the NC world alone.

How many of you read cigar catalogs in the bathroom? And, which vendors are better? Find any use for a Thompson's?

Wait. That's probably another thread...

[Bill86]

How many of you read cigar catalogs in the bathroom? And, which vendors are better? Find any use for a Thompson's?

Wait. That's probably another thread...

Toilet paper if you are out?

[yourchoice]

Three tobaccos enter, one tobacco leaves.

That made me laugh. :r

[44stampede]

To me, Nic puros are dark and earthy, dominican puros are sweet and spicy, and Honduran tobacco sucks, it has no character, and is mainly sweet musty air.
Ecuadoran tobacco is bitter to me and Mexican tobacco is just odd and put-offish, most times.
It's funny but for me right now, my go to smoke (day to day cheap one that I can give even a newbie) is the Carlos Torano silver or 50 year. It's the only Honduran (that I can recall) that I enjoy.