Ummm Free?

[Rkyro]

Whats up with Joe Cigar Daily Deal. There priceing on all there offers today are showing up a big $0

[SUOrangeGuy]

I ordered some 92 toros but they'll cancel when they fix the mistake.

[Darrell]

I ordered 11 bundles of Cuban Classics for $5 shipping. :r

[Rkyro]

Yeah it funny, In less then 20mins they have went threw 3 offers and are on there fourth now. "selling" quick

[Ace$nyper]

Yes, I freaking IMed Darrell to see if he saw it too.

He jumped on it and I tried to and timed out!

This is nuts.

[awsmith4]

What the hey I ordered

[JE3146]

Ordered some of the Monte's.

What the heck?

[BlackIrish]

Tried to order some Montes, ended up with 20 Graycliff. I've got a confirmation; let's see what happens.

[cort]

WOW Everyone is snatching them up:r:r



What no one wants the Gurkhas????

[JE3146]

Ok what is going on lmao.

[Heliofire]

will they fix it and charge me for 75 packs of gurkhas or just cancel my order?
because 75 packs of cigars at anything over a buck a pack will get me in a lot of trouble.

[cort]

I'm holding out for a good one:r

[smokin5]

I know they'll wise up eventually, but in the meantime, I'm sure having fun making orders!:ss
I DO find it funny that even for $0.00, the Cuba Libres and La Cunas took about 5 minutes each to clear.

[Rkyro]

I'm holding out for a good one:r

Looks like CI is going to be holding onto Heliofire's Bank account, 75 Packs Ouch!

[Heliofire]

Looks like CI is going to be holding onto Heliofire's Bank account, 75 Packs Ouch!

yeah I have a screenshot that shows it was priced at 0.00 I guess I could always cancel the order.

[Silound]

As long as they won't charge me, I'm loading up on anything I can. I figure if they don't correct it, I'm in the money.

Edit to add that I'm using a prepaid card with $1 left....just in case :)

[Rkyro]

Na, they cant charge you anything more the $0 ; ) And if they do don't worrie you'll make your money back 10 fold with a simple law suit lol

[cort]

Got me some Monte Tins:D

[awsmith4]

As long as they won't charge me, I'm loading up on anything I can. I figure if they don't correct it, I'm in the money.

Edit to add that I'm using a prepaid card with $1 left....just in case :)

I did the same LOL

[spectrrr]

damnit... internet must work faster!

go go go go

[spectrrr]

Edit to add that I'm using a prepaid card with $1 left....just in case :)

wish I had one handy....

[Silound]

I really do wonder if they'll hold up on this or if it will fall through...I've had a few hold up before...Amazon did one with a TV a while back that was honored.

[Silound]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention....there's a Woot-off for the past two days as well. Good stuff there!

[shemp]

this is hilarious, if i wasn't unemployed id risk it...

[Heliofire]

this is so funny, the deal changes every few minutes.:D:r

[spectrrr]

this is hilarious, if i wasn't unemployed id risk it...

if they try to charge me, I'll email em... if they don't reverse the charges, CC company will :)

[Ace$nyper]

So am I the only one too sissy to click buy?

[spectrrr]

uhhh... I'm gonna need a coolerdor OR TWO if they honor this....

[awsmith4]

So am I the only one too sissy to click buy?

Yes

[Silound]

Run to your local gas station or Walgreens or supermarket and get a $25 prepaid gift card to use. They obviously can't charge more than what's on the card.

[Ace$nyper]

Yes

Figured.

Saving for house + holidays soon = my cheap self is even stingier then normal..:fl

[Heliofire]

you even get a email confirming that the cost is 0.00 so what could they do to you other than cancel the order.

[spectrrr]

lol.... NO ONE wants those Perdomo's

[JE3146]

Someone is so getting fired tomorrow :r

[Heliofire]

lol.... NO ONE wants those Perdomo's

NO:r

[Silound]

5 Vegas Atomics are up now.

[Ace$nyper]

you even get a email confirming that the cost is 0.00 so what could they do to you other than cancel the order.

Fine peer pressuring jerks!

I kid.

I'm going to start loading up!

If this works... you better bet some of you are getting nuked :fu:r

[awsmith4]

Figured.

Saving for house + holidays soon = my cheap self is even stingier then normal..:fl

worse that will happen is orders will be canceled, they can't legally charge more than their invoice

[Silound]

Hah, I think CI's site just crashed

[spectrrr]

:r :r :r
If this works, I cant wait to see some of the bombs next week
:r :r :r

I'm only buying 5x10=50 of each cigar, thats being reasonable, right?

[Ace$nyper]

:r :r :r
If this works, I cant wait to see some of the bombs next week
:r :r :r

I'm only buying 5x10=50 of each cigar, thats being reasonable, right?

I know!!

I will get you all who talked me into it. Bad :cb

[spectrrr]

Hah, I think CI's site just crashed

:r "crashed".. as in, some programmer said "holy ****ing ****, quick, pull the ****ing plug!"

[Heliofire]

Hah, I think CI's site just crashed

Still working for me.

[JE3146]

Oh man.. I have to bust out the cooler again.

[spectrrr]

nope, site is still up :ss :ss :ss

[Silound]

I'm only buying 1-10 randomly of each to avoid drawing suspicion.

[spectrrr]

Oh man.. I have to bust out the cooler again.

darkside deals tonight already forced that....

[JE3146]

I predict a lot of troop donations and random newbie bombings if this goes through...

[spectrrr]

I'm only buying 1-10 randomly of each to avoid drawing suspicion.

I don't think they'll honor em on a case by case basis. too many sales. either they'll honor em all... or none.

[spectrrr]

I predict a lot of troop donations and random newbie bombings if this goes through...

I was just gonna post that... think of the nuke we can drop on the troops :D

[spectrrr]

or hell... grab some random guy that joins the board and pots an intro, innocently ask for his address.....

200 cigars later..... :r

[Ace$nyper]

I'm going to beat myself so badly if I miss out.

I will only smoke grape phillies for a year as punishment.

[spectrrr]

c'mon guys.. don't be shy, grab dem gran habanos :)

[Heliofire]

the current deal says"Flavorful, eventful, and a steal at just $19.99 per 20 toros." I think a steal is more like the price of free that they are offering.:r

[Silound]

I don't think they'll honor em on a case by case basis. too many sales. either they'll honor em all... or none.

Which leads me to wonder if or if not...they either halt all sales and sort it out, lawsuits and problems ensuing, or honor all sales at a loss.

[spectrrr]

I'm going to beat myself so badly if I miss out.

I will only smoke grape phillies for a year as punishment.

somebody who lives near this guy, please make damned sure he keeps his word.... I think the sight of that would be even better than the 500 sticks showing up in my mailbox.

[spectrrr]

the current deal says"Flavorful, eventful, and a steal at just $19.99 per 20 toros." I think a steal is more like the price of free that they are offering.:r
:r :r :r :r


Which leads me to wonder if or if not...they either halt all sales and sort it out, lawsuits and problems ensuing, or honor all sales at a loss.
either way they lose, one way we win :d

[JE3146]

Would someone buy these please... even I can't bring myself to order them at 0.00$ :r

[JE3146]

Oh, did anyone else feel guilty buying Gurkhas, even at 0$? LMAO

[Heliofire]

c'mon guys.. don't be shy, grab dem gran habanos :)

:tpd: don't everyone jump at once there are plenty gran habanos to go around.

[spectrrr]

so is everyone just adding to the cart and every so often checking out the pile of deals... or are you all going through the check out process for each and every deal?

[spectrrr]

Oh, did anyone else feel guilty buying Gurkhas, even at 0$? LMAO

aww, did I miss the gurkahs? damn... :tg

[Ace$nyper]

somebody who lives near this guy, please make damned sure he keeps his word.... I think the sight of that would be even better than the 500 sticks showing up in my mailbox.
Can I at least put a fire cracker in my mouth to you know, kill my taste buds?

[Silound]

Oh, did anyone else feel guilty buying Gurkhas, even at 0$? LMAO

Yeah, because I only bought them to speed up something better :)

[spectrrr]

the number of people watching this thread right now, this late at night, is absolutely HILARIOUS

[Heliofire]

how many tens of thousands of dollars would they lose if they do honor these great deals?

[spectrrr]

Can I at least put a fire cracker in my mouth to you know, kill my taste buds?

yes, but only if you post it on youtube :r

[Silound]

so is everyone just adding to the cart and every so often checking out the pile of deals... or are you all going through the check out process for each and every deal?

I have three computers all doing simultaneous checkout. The more orders they're flooded with, the harder I suspect it will be to cancel the ones they want killed. So I do a separate order for each deal.

[spectrrr]

how many tens of thousands of dollars would they lose if they do honor these great deals?

I guess it depends on just how many are available in a given "deal"... my guess is at least a couple hundred k....

[Ace$nyper]

yes, but only if you post it on youtube :r
Deal.
:D

[spectrrr]

I have three computers all doing simultaneous checkout. The more orders they're flooded with, the harder I suspect it will be to cancel the ones they want killed. So I do a separate order for each deal.

I cant argue with your logic there....

[MiloFinch]

Don't worry Ace$nyper.

I'm with you. I'm completely amazed by this, but not ordering any. Mainly because I don't think any of this will go through. It will all get canceled tomorrow.

Then again, even if one or two of these orders slip through the cracks, I'm going to kick myself.

[Silound]

I guess it depends on just how many are available in a given "deal"... my guess is at least a couple hundred k....

Given that any "deal" is a fixed number sold until out of stock, I suspect they won't lose more than the "sale" list was supposed to run. And remember that at least 25% of that price is profit probably anyway. so they aren't losing as much.

[spectrrr]

website is slowing down.... a lot :r

[Ace$nyper]

LOL my log in is timing out.

[Silound]

Yeah, definitely having some issues now. My baskets are timing out before I can complete checkout :)

[Ace$nyper]

Fortune favors the bold.

And poops on Max !

:r

[spectrrr]

woot! made it through one more checkout screen...

[Snake Hips]

Cigars International, you guys rock! Best Christmas deals ever!

I'm tempted to get in on this, but I'm not in possession of a working card with even the money for shipping on it :|

If this goes through, will somebody bomb me? :D

[houdini]

Cigars International, you guys rock! Best Christmas deals ever!

I'm tempted to get in on this, but I'm not in possession of a working card with even the money for shipping on it :|

If this goes through, will somebody bomb me? :D

shipping is free!

[Heliofire]

quick place your last orders the site is going to crash soon.

[BlackIrish]

And I thought the 70% off deals on CCs were good. How about 100% off, plus free shipping!

[Snake Hips]

shipping is free!
Hot damn!

[Silound]

Site's stuck on Padilla 68's right now...money says we don't see another item up.

[Ace$nyper]

Timing out still.

Head to wall

[mikeandshellie2]

I only saw the gran habanos then it won't let me load..

[spectrrr]

damn... I was halfway through checking out with a few deals in the cart....

[Snake Hips]

Somebody's going to walk into the office tomorrow and go "You're ****ing kidding..."

[MiloFinch]

Still working fine for me.

Haven't tried checking anything out though, but the site itself works okay.

[JE3146]

And dead....


Expect emails soon LOL

[Silound]

Joecigar is down, CI is still up

[spectrrr]

Somebody's going to walk into the office tomorrow and go "You're ****ing kidding..."

:r

[Ace$nyper]

And dead....


Expect emails soon LOL

I think so, I do want to hear the result, I really hope you guys get your smokes.


wait, no I remembered what I doomed myself too :pi

[spectrrr]

joe's deal page on CI is up http://www.cigarsinternational.com/html/spec_jc.asp


BUT I still cant get through my checkout... cart is frozen

[spectrrr]

I think so, I do want to hear the result, I really hope you guys get your smokes.


wait, no I remembered what I doomed myself too :pi

and we remember also :rlz

[alfbacca]

Damn and here I was waiting for some Pepin's to show up

[spectrrr]

damn, I suck at this game... I only got 180 cigars ordered..

[Ace$nyper]

and we remember also :rlz
Totally un related but I think I'm quitting cigars :r

Worth a try >_>

[Ace$nyper]

There’s even a touch of coffee and a soft sweetness on the finish. Delightful from start to finish, especially at today’s price.

LOL!!

[spectrrr]

how absolutely appropriate their graphic was tonight....

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/graphics/JoeJumbalaya.gif

[Silound]

Damn and here I was waiting for some Pepin's to show up

Those would have been nice.

Well, if anything actually makes it to me, I'm donating it to the troops.:usa

[spectrrr]

Those would have been nice.

Well, if anything actually makes it to me, I'm donating it to the troops.:usa

+1

[Snake Hips]

"An endless stream of pure bliss...Joe style."

[JE3146]

News Headline: Joe fired from CI. Jeffrey will take stand in as a temporary replacement

[Heliofire]

well it was fun while it lasted, shows over, nothing to see here, everyone go to bed. I'll take one for the team and stay up late to make sure the deals are over.:D

[spectrrr]

I think we can officially say the site is down now...

[Ace$nyper]

CigarsInternational.com is unavailable in order to perform necessary system maintenance.
We expect the site to be back by 2:00 AM EST.
We apologize for the inconvenience.

[Pat1075]

site died in the mididle of the padillas when I was trying to push three bundles through. Oh well.

[Heliofire]

CI now just says this:


CigarsInternational.com is unavailable in order to perform necessary system maintenance.
We expect the site to be back by 2:00 AM EST.
We apologize for the inconvenience.

Please call Toll-Free 1-888-244-2790 for any questions or to place an order.

[spectrrr]

edit: damn, I'm slow

[Ace$nyper]

So I officially got nothing

[-MG-]

I like the message I got better...


Uh Oh...
If you're reading this message that means our site decided to take a quick smoke break. Don't worry, you can be sure that people are freaking out around here - testing circuits, rebooting systems, and selling stocks (just kidding).

Please try back in 5 minutes.

[Heliofire]

Man you know someone got waken up in the middle of the night.

[spectrrr]

Please call Toll-Free 1-888-244-2790 for any questions or to place an order.

ok.. which one of us feels like calling and asking to order the free padillas?

[Silound]

Done, and they told me there was no such deal. :)

[Ace$nyper]

Done, and they told me there was no such deal. :)

LOL!!!!

[spectrrr]

site is back up

[spectrrr]

Done, and they told me there was no such deal. :)

:r :r :r :r :r

[Silound]

Back now!

[Ace$nyper]

I wonder if it all stays in my cart free and I can hit it up soon ?

[MiloFinch]

It's been working for me the whole time.

[spectrrr]

hey, this might work out after all... the site is still SORTA back up for me... AND those three packs of sticks are still in my shopping cart.......... :hm

[Heliofire]

they are still in my cart too.

[spectrrr]

the real question is:

1) modify totals to an obscenely high number for the deals in the cart. order one "real" item so the total isnt zero. hope for the best.

2) try to be a really sneaky bastage. order a few small items, and throw in a free pack or two....

[Silound]

Ditto, however the site is slower than sludge right now, and I can't seem to access my cart

[Snake Hips]

CI's greatest sale volume ever.

"Wow guys! Last night we moved hundreds of thousands of d-OH GEEZE!"

[spectrrr]

back to timing out for me again...

I'll come back to it in 15 minutes, see how the site repairs are coming along. :r

[Silound]

As far as I can tell, the CI homepage is up and running, but links aren't working, nor are sections other than the front page.

[Heliofire]

this is the funnest thing I have seen in a long time.

[Silound]

What, a 7 page thread at 1am on a weeknight about hella savings? :r

[paul95se]

Liquidation Jumbalaya

[bigloo]

I plan on ordering just one. Maybe they chuck us a $5 sorry coupon for the effort.

[Silound]

Liquidation Jumbalaya

Sounds like something you'd eat in Mexico along with the water.

[paul95se]

Sounds like something you'd eat in Mexico along with the water.

:pu

[GKitty]

Man you know someone got waken up in the middle of the night.

Yeah, I did.

I'm not sure which is more jacked: The fact that they called or that I got out of bed for this.


SHENANIGANS!!! :bs

[shemp]

well the padillas are still holding strong...i gues they have alot of them..hee hee

[shemp]

i'm still seeing joe jumbalaya...and padilla...anybody else

[spectrrr]

LMFAO!!!!! :r :r :r

its back up.... AND NOT FIXED!!

[alfbacca]

i'm still seeing joe jumbalaya...and padilla...anybody else

Same here, but the rest of the site is down for me.

[spectrrr]

checkout is quite slow.. but not crashed yet

[spectrrr]

anybody know offhand how long CI leaves stuff in your cart?

I'm wondering if it will still be there in the morning.....

[shemp]

ok i now see oliveros...

[bobarian]

:r:r:r:rLooks like the Troops are going to get a bunch of smokes if this works. 100 Padilla's confirmed :usa

[jaymz]

Oliveros Eight Zero Toro for $0.00 now. site seems to be back and running

[spectrrr]

:r:r:r:rLooks like the Troops are going to get a bunch of smokes if this works. 100 Padilla's confirmed :usa

did you make it through checkout?

I cant get checked out.....

[shemp]

partagas black anyone???

[spectrrr]

partagas black anyone???

yumm

[bobarian]

did you make it through checkout?

I cant get checked out.....

Yes, also received confirmation email. Total $5.00:r:r:r

[shemp]

looks like jumbalaya just ended...

[spectrrr]

damn.... now its really over!

[jaymz]

jambalaya is gone.

showing yesterdays deal @ 29.99 (sold out)

[Heliofire]

yeah prices are back.

[spectrrr]

I think some programmer in "oh sh!t" mode finally had a stroke of brillliance and just reset the clock backwards........

[alfbacca]

That was fun while it lasted lol

[Heliofire]

i guess we will find out in the morning if we get the cigars.

[spectrrr]

still no luck checking out... there's a "few" sticks in there.. God help them if I can slip this order in there :dance:


5 Vegas 'A' - Atomic [2/5]
5 $0.00

Gran Habano COR Fumas Toro
8 $0.00

Padilla Series '68 Robusto 10pk-bdl
24 $0.00

Oliveros Eight Zero Toro 10pk-bdl
15 $0.00

Partagas BLACK Clasico [2/5]
30 $0.00

CI Singles (1 Cigars) $3.90 $3.90
1 x $3.90 - Gurkha Sherpa Toro

[icehog3]

damn.... now its really over!

Thank God, I almost ordered some Partagas Blacks...what was I thinking??? :r

[papajohn67]

Are you guys serious? Would you really try to cash in on what is a mistake or a system glitch?

[JE3146]

Thank God, I almost ordered some Partagas Blacks...what was I thinking??? :r

Could be worse... you could have ordered Gurkhas :D

[Snake Hips]

Are you guys serious? Would you really try to cash in on what is a mistake or a system glitch?
Yeah...

[bobarian]

Are you guys serious? Would you really try to cash in on what is a mistake or a system glitch?

All my smokes are going to the Troops if this goes through. I doubt it will but I have two confirmation emails for 100 smokes each.

[Pyrokin]

I had just decided to go back and place an order too lol, guess you're not allowed to hesitate =P

[spectrrr]

Are you guys serious? Would you really try to cash in on what is a mistake or a system glitch?

:hm



:hm



:hm















YES

[spectrrr]

:r :r :r :r :r

so uhh... the good news is, my smokes are still in my shopping cart






the bad news, I am no longer interested in checking out, since uhh, they're not free anymore :r

[ucubed]

lol i have like 8 email confirmations for every single one of those...but only a couple quantities each...

[spectrrr]

whadda ya think guys, should I go for it? :tg


http://cardullophotography.com/images/cigars/ci-goof.jpg


:lv
:lv
:lv
:lv
:lv

[GKitty]

omg... that's nuts. Sorry you missed out, man.


I'm going back to bed. Night all.

[spectrrr]

omg... that's nuts. Sorry you missed out, man.


I'm going back to bed. Night all.

nope, I got confirmation emails for about 180 sticks, just missed out on the motherload :)

night night. fun times!

[icehog3]

Only $2400? It's a steal!! :r

[CigaSkills9]

Huh? What? This cant be real! OH WELL!! let's see what happens......

[bigloo]

I got one order in 10 Partagas black. If they ship, straight to MACMS for the troops as bobarian suggested.

[spectrrr]

I got one order in 10 Partagas black. If they ship, straight to MACMS for the troops as bobarian suggested.

agreed.

CI, if your reading this, please honor your deal. we promise we'll send em to the troops, just like you say you support on your website :D

[papajohn67]

:hm



:hm



:hm

















YES


:hm




:hm




:hm




Why?

[spectrrr]

:hm




:hm




:hm




Why?

for the troops of course :usa

[elderboy02]

Looks like you guys had some fun last night :r

[taltos]

Amazingly dishonorable behavior on behalf of some folks who claim to conduct themselves in an honorable manner. Exploiting a programming error is no different than just going in and stealing this stuff from your local b&m. I suspect that many here also would jump the cashier at Walmart is she made a 5 cent error in favor of the store while making your change. I wish that I had seen this while it was ongoing and said something at that time.:fl

[maddman]

The orders should be check before shipping so the wont make it out the door is their is an error, How do they honestly know this is not legit? that they put X quantity free to generate a crap ton of traffic?

[Starscream]

It must be fixed now. Item sold out.

[rsamos]

The orders should be check before shipping so the wont make it out the door is their is an error, How do they honestly know this is not legit? that they put X quantity free to generate a crap ton of traffic?

While I doubt that would be the case, if it were it seems they would have put a cap on how many of each offer you could place an order for. They get the same traffic from selling one bundle of 10 to one customer that they do for five.

[neoflex]

I think it was a programming mistake and it went on for as long as it did because of the hours of the night that it was live. I bet someone was called and woken up in the middle of the night to fix the error. If it were a scheme to create traffic they would have pulled the stunt during daytime hours IMHO.
I too am surprised at how many tried to take advantage of the deals and seem to have gone nuts. Even if it were legit and CI was feeling generous, have some self control and put in orders for realistic sized orders. I'm Sure I may take some abuse for that statements but I just had to express my feelings on the situation.

[MikeyC]

I've seen system glitches like this in the past on other websites. Typically, the website will not honor the price and either straight up cancels each and every one or gives the buyer the option to cancel or pay the correct price.

[Heliofire]

For the record I joked about ordering 75 units of Gurkhas, but did not really order them. I don't Gurkhas it was a joke to a few people that know me that were posting in the thread. I actually only order 2 moni tins, because I figured that they will either cancel my order or change the price and send my sticks. I know some of you are mad that people were placing orders like crazy, but I honestly believe that none of us, who saw this going on, actually believed that the orders will be filled for free.

It was just funny to see big ol' CI, the bane of many small B&M's, offering sticks for free. I mean it was already difficult for my local B&M to compete with CI's prices, but CI offering sticks for free is just impossible to compete with now.:D

[bazookajoe]

Amazingly dishonorable behavior on behalf of some folks who claim to conduct themselves in an honorable manner. Exploiting a programming error is no different than just going in and stealing this stuff from your local b&m. I suspect that many here also would jump the cashier at Walmart is she made a 5 cent error in favor of the store while making your change. I wish that I had seen this while it was ongoing and said something at that time.:fl

:tpd: And exploiting a mistake and then saying it's for the troops is the stupidest reason I've ever heard. Do you also think it's ok to steal and then give the loot to charity? The end justifies the means? I doubt if any of the troop supporters want donations you acquired this way. :2

[BlackIrish]

I've seen system glitches like this in the past on other websites. Typically, the website will not honor the price and either straight up cancels each and every one or gives the buyer the option to cancel or pay the correct price.

I expect that they're trying to figure out how to handle this. My guess is that they don't simply cancel any confirmed orders but send an email explaining that it was a glitch and giving the option to buy at the correct price.

[papajohn67]

:tpd: And exploiting a mistake and then saying it's for the troops is the stupidest reason I've ever heard. Do you also think it's ok to steal and then give the loot to charity? The end justifies the means? I doubt if any of the troop supporters want donations you acquired this way. :2

"The end justifies the means"...what would Mr. Machiavelli have done?

[GKitty]

Wow... the morning crowd is so disapproving of our shenanigans.

FWIW, that's all this was for me: Shenanigans.

Did I place an order? Yes, a couple in fact.

Do I honestly expect them to send me the sticks? Absolutely not.

I don't think anyone honestly expects CI to honor this deal. This was a prank, a lark, a game to amuse those who were here. Although it would be hysterical if the 4,000 sticks of a cigar someone claims to hate actually showed up at their door.

I hear and understand the opinions, concerns, and criticisms of our behavior last night. However, if I'd had a concern like this, I would have approached the people I consider friends and acquaintances via PM to discuss the questionable behavior. What I would not have done is climb up on a soapbox and call strangers looters and thieves with no further insight into their actions than a thread of random commentary.

Congratulations, you've officially taken all the fun out of this little game.

[neoflex]

Wow... the morning crowd is so disapproving of our shenanigans.

FWIW, that's all this was for me: Shenanigans.

Did I place an order? Yes, a couple in fact.

Do I honestly expect them to send me the sticks? Absolutely not.

I don't think anyone honestly expects CI to honor this deal. This was a prank, a lark, a game to amuse those who were here. Although it would be hysterical if the 4,000 sticks of a cigar someone claims to hate actually showed up at their door.

I hear and understand the opinions, concerns, and criticisms of our behavior last night. However, if I'd had a concern like this, I would have approached the people I consider friends and acquaintances via PM to discuss the questionable behavior. What I would not have done is climb up on a soapbox and call strangers looters and thieves with no further insight into their actions than a thread of random commentary.

Congratulations, you've officially taken all the fun out of this little game.

My only question is, If it was just a game and for fun and never expected to receive any of your orders, than why did you place them? I like free stuff like the next guy but I think some who admitted to participating went over board and now that they are being called out are trying to baby face it. Had this been me I would just chalk it up to a learning experience rather than try and deny hoping the orders would be shipped and score hundreds of free smokes. Again, just my .02 and feel free to Flame me if you feel I am wrong.

[Starscream]

Somebody open a window; it's getting stuffy in here.

[n3uka]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/n3uka/Drama_Llama.jpg


:r

[Ace$nyper]

I've seen system glitches like this in the past on other websites. Typically, the website will not honor the price and either straight up cancels each and every one or gives the buyer the option to cancel or pay the correct price.

Basically, I do remember a case where amazon ate it on a plasma TV once though.

I mean moral debate aside us having some fun with it sped up getting it fixed.

It was a good laugh, and I'm still kicking myself for not getting in on the fun.

Those phillies are going to be gross :r

[Cbaker8]

My only question is, If it was just a game and for fun and never expected to receive any of your orders, than why did you place them? I like free stuff like the next guy but I think some who admitted to participating went over board and now that they are being called out are trying to baby face it. Had this been me I would just chalk it up to a learning experience rather than try and deny hoping the orders would be shipped and score hundreds of free smokes. Again, just my .02 and feel free to Flame me if you feel I am wrong.

Whats wrong with doing it for fun, hoping that the order would be shipped..... but not expecting it to be? In the world of buyer beware shouldn't the reverse also work.... retailer beware?

If you think about it.... this is a golden opportunity for CI to really EARN some really loyal customers... if they decide they should honor the deals then I would suspect it would lead some people to order even more from them in the future, and a TON of free advertising across the magical internet box....

[replicant_argent]

Very clearly NOT BOTL behavior. Use whatever justification you want for "playing a game."

[bazookajoe]

My only question is, If it was just a game and for fun and never expected to receive any of your orders, than why did you place them?...

Exactly. Good harmless fun, please. And if it was a game, very nice - I'm sure CI appreciates it while they're busy trying to sort out the mess, keep from shipping free orders and still fulfill orders for people who actually paid for theirs.

As far as soapboxing, if pointing out unethical behavior (or in the case of a "game", poor judgement) is labeled as being on a soapbox so be it, but it looks more like you're trying to deflect attention rather than take responsibility for your behavior. :2

[Drat]

I love the guys over at CI and hope that the "fun" doesn't cause too many headaches fixing.

This did make for a few minutes of entertaining reading this morning though.

[s0leful0ne]

My only question is, If it was just a game and for fun and never expected to receive any of your orders, than why did you place them? I like free stuff like the next guy but I think some who admitted to participating went over board and now that they are being called out are trying to baby face it. Had this been me I would just chalk it up to a learning experience rather than try and deny hoping the orders would be shipped and score hundreds of free smokes. Again, just my .02 and feel free to Flame me if you feel I am wrong.

Yes it was fun and games, and did we hope that the orders would be shipped? Sure. Do we believe that it was going to happen? No way.

We placed them, we joked about bombing our friends. We joked about opening up a b&M that only sold bundles. We had a laugh, and I think it is uncalled for to imply that the people that enjoyed ordering on obscene amount of cigars they didnt want "theives". Though personally not offended (we all steal in some capacity) I take great offense for my friends who are far from reprehensible and do not deserve such slander in an open thread.

Shake your heads if you please but when all is said and done, we had our fun and meant no harm.

/serious

btw...on a less serious note...Why havent they cancelled my order yet???

[Ace$nyper]

I love the guys over at CI and hope that the "fun" doesn't cause too many headaches fixing.

This did make for a few minutes of entertaining reading this morning though.

I'm sure they know how to run a site, and glitches do happen.

I spoke with a friend who does web design he said fixing it won't be too much a head ache for them unless they use a very odd program for the orders.

[gettysburgfreak]

crap, missed out on all the fun

[neoflex]

If you read all my posts on this topic, I never once came out and called anyone a Thief!

[bazookajoe]

If you read all my posts on this topic, I never once came out and called anyone a Thief!

Probably referring to my comments - people see what they want to see...

[GKitty]

If you read all my posts on this topic, I never once came out and called anyone a Thief!

Probably referring to my comments - people see what they want to see...

You are correct. No one ever used the word "thief" they just told people that they were "stealing". It's my understanding that one who steals is a "thief". My apologies for using transitive thinking. Once again, I seem to be behaving inappropriately.

There will be a public chastisement this evening after work. Please bring your own canes, I don't have enough to go around.

Good day. :lv

[s0leful0ne]

Yes i specifically said that thief was the implication

[Footbag]

Just an FYI, if it is clear that the customer recognized their was an error, and intended to benefit from such error; CI wouldn't legally be required to fulfill the order. That said, it would be incumbent on the customer to either admit it, or the vendor to prove it.

I'm in retail and unfortunately have experience with both scenarios.

[stearns]

anyone remember the free humis amazon had at the beginning of the summer? same deal im sure, we all bought em hoping to just pay shipping, then got contacted asking if we would like to pay full price or cancel

stearns

[LkyLindy]

Seems like harmless fun and frolic to me

http://blog.creativethink.com/weblog/images/loosen_up.gif

[Silound]

As far as anyone who frowns upon people buying these incorrect orders, I point out to you: Caveat venditor (in name, not in practiced law). In other words, seller assumes responsibility for the orders and anything posted on their website. They are just as responsible for what's on their site as are people who post objectionable or questionable material.

There is nothing wrong with people taking up a deal, even knowing that it will probably not be honored. There IS something wrong with people judging others over it, even if they were to keep that fortune to themselves. And judging someone, were anyone to give any such hypothetical sales to the troops, is as pointless as it is spiteful. A purely altruistic gesture to give one's fortune onto others, without taking for themselves, is as generous as it gets. Speaking of not acting in the fashion of a BOTL, one who judges others actions so publicly and harshly is not at all acting in any good spirit.


At any rate, I for one received my emails this morning notifying me that a computer glitch caused incorrect prices, and a new confirmation with correct prices was attached, notifying me that if I didn't respond with acceptance within 48 hours, it would be automatically canceled.

We are all entitled to our opinions however they swing, and I feel that if the company honors the mistake, good for them. If they don't, oh well, it's not a loss to anyone else. The website is fixed, emails have been sent regarding the situation and the option to actually buy the deals at the correct price or decline. No one will apparently get anything free.



Having said my piece on this, I suggest the thread be locked to prevent more drama.

[icehog3]

Having said my piece on this, I suggest the thread be locked to prevent more drama.

I would guess that others who have a different perspective may not agree that the thread should be locked until they say their piece on this.

[Silound]

I would guess that others who have a different perspective may not agree that the thread should be locked until they say their piece on this.

Touche! :) I was just thinking of drama threads getting out of hand sometimes.


Blast away, anyone who will.

[icehog3]

Touche! :) I was just thinking of drama threads getting out of hand sometimes.


Blast away, anyone who will.

There has definitely been a little drama, but as long as it doesn't get too uncivil, we can leave it open a bit. Actually has been a pretty interesting thread to this point. :)

[GKitty]

There has definitely been a little drama, but as long as it doesn't get too uncivil, we can leave it open a bit. Actually has been a pretty interesting thread to this point. :)

Well as long as we have your seal of approval. :cool2:

*Edit* - We're all entitled to our opinions. I can only hope that people don't lend too much weight to this frivilous behavior when it comes to serious matters.

[bazookajoe]

...There IS something wrong with people judging others over it, even if they were to keep that fortune to themselves. And judging someone, were anyone to give any such hypothetical sales to the troops, is as pointless as it is spiteful. A purely altruistic gesture to give one's fortune onto others, without taking for themselves, is as generous as it gets. Speaking of not acting in the fashion of a BOTL, one who judges others actions so publicly and harshly is not at all acting in any good spirit...

How is stating an opinion about someone's actions judging that person? I often hear this complaint, but I didn't see any personal remarks or comments made about individual members, just about the ethics of the activity.

And IMO, there's nothing altruistic about donating goods that were acquired through a mistake of and at great expense to a merchant.

[dunng]

http://thegrandnarrative.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

[GKitty]

How is stating an opinion about someone's actions judging that person? I often hear this complaint, but I didn't see any personal remarks or comments made about individual members, just about the ethics of the activity.

As a friend of mine likes to say, "I'm not judging, I'm just saying..."

[Gophernut]

How is stating an opinion about someone's actions judging that person? I often hear this complaint, but I didn't see any personal remarks or comments made about individual members, just about the ethics of the activity.
Just an observation, but isn't that exactly what judging is? See #8

judging - 3 dictionary results
Pronunciation
noun, verb, judged, judg⋅ing.
–verb (used with object)
6. to pass legal judgment on; pass sentence on (a person): The court judged him guilty.
7. to hear evidence or legal arguments in (a case) in order to pass judgment; adjudicate; try: The Supreme Court is judging that case.
8. to form a judgment or opinion of; decide upon critically: You can't judge a book by its cover.
9. to decide or settle authoritatively; adjudge: The censor judged the book obscene and forbade its sale.
10. to infer, think, or hold as an opinion; conclude about or assess: He judged her to be correct.


For the record I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm just saying...

[piperman]

Very clearly NOT BOTL behavior. Use whatever justification you want for "playing a game."

100% agree, and if they came to your door would you not feel guilty for taking money from a retailer in this economy.

[bigloo]

For all those on their soap boxes, I would like to thank you all for being morally superior to the rest of us. It is nice to know in this day and age we still have saints who never ever do anything wrong in anyone else’s eyes. Today I spend a good chunk of my day saving someone his job. In comparison to ordering one pack of partagas black late last night I think I might just be even. The problem with judging people, especially on a forum, is that without knowing the person you are judging, you are just judging that person but a little piece of information you read. I have learnt not to be so quick to judge on so little.

[neoflex]

I wasnot judging the people per say, just the actions. Will I hold a grudge against these people or deem them bad people or ever not buy anything from them in a WTS/Split thread? No, I just think the way the situation was handled was a little ridiculous. Just my opinion, and you know what they say about that? Opinions are like @ssholes. Everyone has one and they all stink.:D Hell, if you only ordered one hoping to score a free bundle maybe but ordering hundreds is a bit overboard and was meant to be more than just a gag. Again, just my .02. For all you know someone could have lost their job over the ordeal. You just never know what your actions may have caused, so because you thought it would be a hoot to order 200 bundles or whatever now someone could possibly be out a job in this "economy?" You never know. I know if I made the mistake at work my boss would hang my n*ts from the flagpole than fire me. Not claiming to be a saint either. Far from it but I guess in some situations I am guilty of thinking about what could result from my foolish actions and every once in awhile putting the shoe on the other foot. Plus I can't be a saint, my wife tells me all the time I am an @zzhole.:ss
This will be my last post on this thread as I think I already ruffled enough feathers and made enough enemys. I joined here to share the love of the leaf and this group reminds me of what CS was 2 years ago, so I will stop now before I piss anyone else off. I guess I was just surprised because I guess I along with a few others are in the minority in thinking that this is not how most BOTL/SOTLs would have handle the situation. Most times our biggest fault is being overly generous and not trying to take advantage of a vendors error. Ahh well, life goes on.

[bigloo]

I think we need a group hug.

[smokin5]

Post-Mortem Follow-up on the insanity of early this morning.
Here's the e-mail exchange I had this afternoon with CI:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:01:35 -0500 "Joe Cigar Customer Service"
<joecigar@cigarsinternational.com> writes:
IMPORTANT NOTICE:

Thank you for your recent order! This morning we experienced a technical
error between the hours of approximately midnight and 3am eastern time.
Due to the technical error, a small number of products were incorrectly
displayed at $0.00. Below is the actual order confirmation with correct
prices. Please reply to this email with acceptance or cancellation of the
order. If we don't hear from you within 48 hours, we will assume you want
the order to be canceled. Please accept our apologies for any
inconvenience this causes you.

Thank you for your loyalty and patronage.

Trish S.
Customer Service Supervisor

*************************
From: Eric
To: joecigar@cigarsinternational.com
Subject: Re: Cigars International - Confirmation #XXXXXXX

Yes, I accept the below-referenced Joe Cigar offer for the Jose Pepin
Garcia Cuban Class Robustos.
I hope last night's escapades didn't cause TOO many heart attacks at CI
this morning.

Cheers,
Eric

******************
Eric,

Lets just say we had the paramedics on stand-by all day!! :)

Thanks for your understanding. We'll get your order shipped out tomorrow.

If there is anything further you need, please let me know!

Trish

- - - - -
So, I guess they figured out how not to go bankrupt after all!;)
Hey, if you can't screw with your friendly neighborhood
internet retailer once in a while, WHO YA GONNA?

[rizzle]

Well as long as we have your seal of approval. :cool2:

*Edit* - We're all entitled to our opinions. I can only hope that people don't lend too much weight to this frivilous behavior when it comes to serious matters.
http://snaps.lumra.com/612/~Internet_serious_business.jpg

[Stogieboy]

[QUOTE=Silound;114353]
And judging someone, were anyone to give any such hypothetical sales to the troops, is as pointless as it is spiteful. A purely altruistic gesture to give one's fortune onto others, without taking for themselves, is as generous as it gets. QUOTE]


Taking advantage of someones mistake to get free product then giving it away, is a generous as it gets? :hm Come on, you don't really mean that, do you? I think it would be far more generous to buy something at a fair price then give it away. Just one mans opinion. :2