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DBall 02-27-2012 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1572254)
Well I made a purchase through him, did not like what i got so i returned it. He feels as though i am working for some guy from Leaf Only and that i just wanted to find out what he was selling.

Long story short is i returned the tobacco with DC and he is not giving me a refund. here is the email conversation.


Yeah, right...you're going to leave negative feedback any way i refund you're order. You're a plant from LeafOnly and I don't sell on ebay anyway. Go ahad and leave your feedback. I'll be smoking LeafOnly sooner than they can say "fire it up"

Cute maneuver Rich. I never knew about you before I started WholeLeaf. You will soon learn you've chosen the wrong enemy.

Regards,

Don Carey
WholeLeafTobacco.com

btw...no refund will be issued


So wait... you returned a product and the dude refuses to return your money? I'd contact the better business bureau and the authorities... I don't care if it is $3 you are owed. That's just plain sh*tty business practice. Stuff like that really fires me up... :sl

Blak Smyth 02-27-2012 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1565796)
messing around... this is easier to do with the thinner wrapper leaves, the thicker, ie. Maduro is hard to do this with.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1152.jpg

I just can't get over how awesome this pigtail is! Amazing work Andrew!!!

BlkDrew 02-27-2012 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1573116)
So wait... you returned a product and the dude refuses to return your money? I'd contact the better business bureau and the authorities... I don't care if it is $3 you are owed. That's just plain sh*tty business practice. Stuff like that really fires me up... :sl

I opened a dispute in payfail and he refunded the money... all is good.

BlkDrew 02-27-2012 01:54 PM

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working on a box for a brother. will be doing 20 like this for him

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1162.jpg

maninblack 02-27-2012 01:55 PM

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Those look sweet Andrew!!

wayner123 03-01-2012 11:23 AM

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So I have been rolling more and more of my own. It certainly is time consuming, but it's been fun. I don't have any molds, but after watching a slew of videos on youtube (Hamlet, La China, Reynaldo, etc.) I am getting better and better. I have even done a lancero without a mold and I am getting pretty good at lonsdales.

One thing that is of upmost importance is when you get the leaves in, make sure to go ahead and sort them and flatten them out. This bit of prep work helps immensely when going to roll.

Any of you that are rolling have any tips about sorting and flattening?

I also wanted to add, that while the leaf I have now is not the best quality out there. ( I may get some better variety next time) the flavor has been very good. I would put it up there with any $5-$8 smoke.

boxmonkey 03-15-2012 11:47 AM

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any one know where I can find a tuck cutter?

BlkDrew 03-15-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by boxmonkey (Post 1591870)
any one know where I can find a tuck cutter?

Check on eBay every now and again under the search terms "antique cigar" or antique cigar cutter. A new one costs about 175$ I will keep my eyes open as I've seen a few.

boxmonkey 03-15-2012 10:12 PM

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thanks. The only ones I've found have been $200+

wayner123 03-16-2012 07:03 AM

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Have any of you home rollers tried the Nicaraguan Viso from otoaocigars? If so, how does it compare in taste/flavor to the '98 Ligero?

BlkDrew 03-23-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wayner123 (Post 1592438)
Have any of you home rollers tried the Nicaraguan Viso from otoaocigars? If so, how does it compare in taste/flavor to the '98 Ligero?

how has the tobacco been from Otoao? i noticed earlier that you had posted something about opening leaves. do you have to open and flatten your filler? or are you just referring to the wrappers?

wayner123 03-23-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1597987)
how has the tobacco been from Otoao? i noticed earlier that you had posted something about opening leaves. do you have to open and flatten your filler? or are you just referring to the wrappers?

I haven't bought any from Otoao, but that Viso has me wanting to buy from him.

I have only bought from leafonly. I have had to flatten and partially unroll the leaves I was sent of the aged Nic Seco and aged Nic Ligero. And I have been using the havana 7 as a binder and doing prep work by de-stemming it and flattening them as well. Then there is the Havana Prime I use for my wrappers and I de-stem and flatten them out as well. So when I go to roll it's a easier and less time consuming.

I flatten the filler because I find it easier to bunch that way. I get a good spiral.

BlkDrew 03-23-2012 02:48 PM

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i found that using the Havana 7 as the binder and the Havana prime for the wrapper works very well. the prime is very easy to work with.

I did notice some of my seco and ligero had bunched up or rolled. now that i know what you mean i have had to open some up but i am able to do that when bunching.

as far as Otoao, i think you have to call and place an order or do it through email, i do not know how secure his transactions are with a credit card and honestly that is the only thing holding me back.

levrac68 03-24-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1450300)
Do you have a room?
Does your dog bite?

:r

CoreyD 03-25-2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1598147)

as far as Otoao, i think you have to call and place an order or do it through email, i do not know how secure his transactions are with a credit card and honestly that is the only thing holding me back.

This is correct and the purchases I have made so I have not had any issues months after. Great guy to work with. Very friendly and makes you feel like a part of the family.

As for the Viso I'm not sure what to think on it. It is more of a mellow out Nicaraguan but with some body. As far as the '98 Ligero Nic goes it is a completely different tasting lave. More spicy. His fillers and seco are great tasting and the Ecudorian sumatra binder is yummy. All have that nice aged taste after letting rest a few months in the humi rolled.
I really only shop at leaf only now till I find a better priced tasting wrapper out there. It'd be nice to find a few farms from the country of origin to purchase from and go that route to save $$ but I don't usually buy over a lb of binder,lb of wrapper or so forth of the other leaves at a time . To even get ins to some of the big name cigar companies leaves would be nice as well.

Crownedone 03-28-2012 03:29 PM

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So blkdrew, what sizes are you rolling now? I enjoyed the last 5er and thinking about trying another size if you make them.

BlkDrew 03-28-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crownedone (Post 1602473)
So blkdrew, what sizes are you rolling now? I enjoyed the last 5er and thinking about trying another size if you make them.

I am doing a 42x 5.5ish

ApexAZ 03-28-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1602481)
I am doing a 42x 5.5ish

I want some of the 42's! Do you have stock?

BlkDrew 03-28-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1602508)
I want some of the 42's! Do you have stock?

I will get on it this week, I currently have 5 which are spoken for. I will have stock next week.

emopunker2004 04-01-2012 01:46 AM

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Andrew, did you ever find any boxes to box your own?

BlkDrew 04-01-2012 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1605407)
Andrew, did you ever find any boxes to box your own?

Nope not really, DBall gave me a couple boxes which are good for the 5x52. It'd be nice to find some for fivers of the 42's. I think I may look into something like Viaje did with the super shot and go cardboard.

emopunker2004 04-01-2012 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1605413)
Nope not really, DBall gave me a couple boxes which are good for the 5x52. It'd be nice to find some for fivers of the 42's. I think I may look into something like Viaje did with the super shot and go cardboard.

Could always go the newspaper route like the WLP series :2

emopunker2004 04-02-2012 07:00 PM

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looky what i got.....


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6...6f745e47_c.jpg
DSC_3670 by thestemens16, on Flickr

DaBear 06-26-2012 03:49 PM

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Quick bump, about to place an order through leaf only. I remember you saying you could ask the guys there to pre-open the leaves Andrew, are they still doing that?

BlkDrew 06-26-2012 03:51 PM

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yeah, call and ask Rich or John. might cost a tiny bit extra. i have not made a purchase in a month or more, i actually will be buying again soon.

lenguamor 06-26-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004 (Post 1606594)

Those look tasty.

DaBear 06-26-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkDrew (Post 1667332)
yeah, call and ask Rich or John. might cost a tiny bit extra. i have not made a purchase in a month or more, i actually will be buying again soon.

Alright, thanks. So you just place the order and then call in? Or do you call the order in and ask while placing it?

BlkDrew 06-26-2012 04:16 PM

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i just call and place the order with one of them, that way it is all clear.

DaBear 06-26-2012 05:08 PM

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Called, but no pick up, and since it isn't a big enough deal to me, I just went ahead and placed the order online. Since this is my first time dealing with them, opening the leaves could be half the fun, just for the smell. :dr Went with some samples to try my hand at making some milder smokes:
1x Dominican Ligero
2x Dominican Seco
1x Broadleaf Scraps(just to mess around with, at $2.49 its worth it to me)
2x Havana 7(for binder)
1x Connecticut Shade
1x Capper(since I hadn't gotten one before)

All I'm hoping for is 20 smokes with that, but I feel like I may be able to get more.

Any tips you have for dealing with Connecticut would be helpful since I know its a delicate leaf.

BlkDrew 06-27-2012 12:21 PM

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If you got the shade leaf, it is more forgiving than most. Just remember to hydrate the wrapper leaf slowly and only hydrate what you are going to use. the filler should be ready to go right out of the box.

DaBear 06-29-2012 04:46 PM

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Just got my order in, and mmmmmmmm :dr It smells gooooood. No complaints about leaf quality or anything like that, but the capper tool I ordered was not shipped and I received no notification, so I'm a little irked about that, but I'll just assume someone had a brain fart somewhere along the packing process and forgot it. Not a huge deal, I'll find something to use in the mean time(I'm thinking bottle cap and a knife)

kelmac07 06-29-2012 05:20 PM

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Andrew...gifted a robusto Roxy Maduro to a friend at this weeks VCM Thursday Herf and he really enjoyed it. :tu :tu

BlkDrew 06-30-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1670090)
Andrew...gifted a robusto Roxy Maduro to a friend at this weeks VCM Thursday Herf and he really enjoyed it. :tu :tu

Nice good to know they are still getting around. I should have a website built by the end of the summer.

BlkDrew 06-30-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBear (Post 1670069)
Just got my order in, and mmmmmmmm :dr It smells gooooood. No complaints about leaf quality or anything like that, but the capper tool I ordered was not shipped and I received no notification, so I'm a little irked about that, but I'll just assume someone had a brain fart somewhere along the packing process and forgot it. Not a huge deal, I'll find something to use in the mean time(I'm thinking bottle cap and a knife)

go to lowes or home depot and get a copper union and sharpen it..... thats what i do

BlkDrew 07-10-2012 09:29 AM

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alright, got some new leaf in. PA Oscuro. this stuff smells amazing. rolled 6 with it today, cant wait to let them rest a little bit.

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1353.jpg
http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1352.jpg

DMK 07-10-2012 10:38 AM

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Them look tasty....:dr

363 07-10-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DMK (Post 1676799)
Them look tasty....:dr

+1 oh man!:dr

BlkDrew 07-11-2012 04:53 PM

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alright, here is some havana ct bound goodness, five will have Premium ct shade leaf wrappers and 5 will have the PA Oscuro (the single one on the far end) these are 5x42

http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1358.jpg

BlkDrew 07-11-2012 04:59 PM

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http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/y...8/IMG_1359.jpg

Big Maduro 07-11-2012 10:44 PM

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Those are some good lookin smokes. My hats off to ya.

maninblack 07-12-2012 08:15 AM

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Damn those look good Andrew!!

jpb437 07-31-2014 09:26 PM

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I just found this thread and read the whole thing while sitting at home sick today. Now I want to start rolling my own. This is awesome. Perhaps I have a new hobby for after the kiddos move out.


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