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icehog3 07-27-2009 10:43 PM

Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Hoping for some civil discourse on your thoughts on Pete being in the HOF. After 20 years, he would have to be voted in by the 65 members of the Veteran's Committee if his lifetime ban from baseball was lifted.

I know how Selig feels, sportswriters feel, players feel...I am curious as to how you feel.

Thanks for any constructive comments on a (currently) hypothetical situation.

pnoon 07-27-2009 10:45 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
In.
If character and morality were a factor, then a bunch would have to be booted out.
Nobody in my lifetime played as well and as hard every day as Charlie Hustle.

Darrell 07-27-2009 10:45 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Pete is a great player, he made a mistake -- but his record as a professional athlete speaks for itself.

LET PETE IN!!!

Ace$nyper 07-27-2009 10:46 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
He's worthy.

Emjaysmash 07-27-2009 10:47 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
I have no clue what we talking about... seeing as there was a "I could care less" option I chose that one. ( Not that I actually do care less, im just oblivious.)

Darrell 07-27-2009 10:48 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 482636)
I have no clue what we talking about... seeing as there was a "I could care less" option I chose that one. ( Not that I actually do care less, im just oblivious.)

Thanks for your contribution. :r

icehog3 07-27-2009 10:48 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 482636)
I have no clue what we talking about... seeing as there was a "I could care less" option I chose that one. ( Not that I actually do care less, im just oblivious.)

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...01.shtml?redir :D

NCRadioMan 07-27-2009 10:49 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
No question in my mind. In. You can't tell me he was the only one that bet on games. He just got caught. There are racists, druggies and overall bad people in the Hall. Pete lived the game all his life and nobody was as dedicated to his craft.

RichardW 07-27-2009 10:49 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 482630)
Pete is a great player, he made a mistake -- but his record as a professional athlete speaks for itself.

LET PETE IN!!!

Well, he made more than one mistake, but he should still be in. It's like "disrepect of cop" -- but unless I missed it, he never did apologize ..

again --> IN!!!

Old Sailor 07-27-2009 10:49 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
He did the crime, he did the time, it's all in the past as far as I'm concerned......in!

Emjaysmash 07-27-2009 10:52 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 482639)
Thanks for your contribution. :r

Was that sarcasm, Brother?
:D


:fu

shilala 07-27-2009 10:52 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Dood, it's Charlie Hustle.
No one every laced up a pair of shoes that played the game harder or with more passion. I can't wait to see him in the Hall. :tu

Darrell 07-27-2009 10:53 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash (Post 482648)
Was that sarcasm, Brother?
:D


:fu

NEVER! ;)

On the square,

D

:r

KidRock 07-27-2009 10:59 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
YES

MedicCook 07-27-2009 11:09 PM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
He should most definately should be in the HOF. He is one of the greatest hitters in the history of baseball. Hank Aaron told Selig this past weekend that it is time to lift the ban. I really hope he listens to Hank.

Savor the Stick 07-28-2009 12:40 AM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
I voted No. What was the commission trying to accomplish by banning Mr. Rose? I believe they wanted to send a message to others.
Mr. Rose knew what he was doing and the possible consequences. One of the fun things professional athletes give up is gambling.

Lifting the ban and allowing him into the HOF would send a message to others (coming up) that as long as you are a great player you will eventually get away with it. :(

I think he was a great player and would have deserved the honor of HOF.....if he hadn't have done what he knew was against the rules.


;s The ban against Mr. Rose should not be lifted.....Ok Flame on!:rolleyes:


Azpostal 07-28-2009 02:31 AM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
He is the greatest hitter in the history of baseball. IN..IN...IN!!!!!!

adampc22 07-28-2009 03:12 AM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
why did he get banned for all thos years ?

Resipsa 07-28-2009 03:31 AM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Nope.

Regardless of his contributions on the field, he touched what some have called "the third rail" of baseball by gambling on games he was involved in, and for that the penalty they say is death.

I kind of agree with that analogy. Nobody who has ever bet on baseball has ever been let back in, once you make an exception you open the floodgates and need to justify why this one, and not that one.

Examples are wonderful things, all the more so when the example being made is someone noteworthy. Yup, other players did bad things too, or weren't nice guys (see Ty cobb), but they didn't bet on the game. Not an apples to apples comparison.

Not that I don't appreciate his contributions, but we've all broken things in our lives that we just can't fix, no matter how hard we try or how remorseful we may be.Some things may be forgiven, but can't be forgotten.

As an aside, from what I've read he's never getting in anyways, because the people who do the voting don't want him there.

gnukfu 07-28-2009 03:44 AM

Re: Pete Rose, 20 years later...HOF or not?
 
Yeah gambling was/is against the rules and he screwed up. I think he has been punished enough by going through a 20 year sentence excluded from the Hall. Time to let him in.

And if they let even one of the known steroid users in then there is absolutely no excuse to keep him out.


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