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					Originally Posted by  icehog3
					 
				 
				I am glad you are not confused, Patrick, as I think Frank and I have had different results at times.    
			
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...Indeed. I have tried pro-hormones and herbal test boosters in the past. I understand the work thing. I used to be in the same field as you brother. I'm all for using stuff that works for someone. But my past experiences have led me to feel I have wasted more money and time using things that give me slightly what the real thing would have.