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					Originally Posted by  GreekGodX
					 
				 
				I'm done with all the preworkout stimulants. I found that I don't really need them or that they do much for me. 
			
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 Ditto, I've ran everything under the sun and I needed to start taking 2x the reccomended scoops. The only thing I'm taking now is creatine and protein. My pre workout consists off coffee and carbs.