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					Originally Posted by  hammondc
					 
				 
				No treadmill or eliptical. I workout with dumbbells/pushups/pullups at home. I can keep a pretty steady heartrate when running as I have been a runner forever. I usually peak at 185-190 BPM. 155-160 is a steady tempo run.  However, there are very few flat roads around me so the routes are fairly brutal.  
 
I ask because i have heard both sides of the cardio before or after argument.  The testosterone detail is new to me. Like I said, I am not looking to get huge, just add some very lean long muscle to look good. Think Ryan Gosling instead of Arnold Schwarzeneggar. 
			
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 The main reason I would say to do weights before cardio is you can work the muscles harder. After cardio you are fatigued effecting the amount of weights and reps you can do. I have tried cardio both ways and after has always been best for me.