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					Originally Posted by markem  hmm. Just a thought, but for the side with the ashtray, why not something like this... 
A perspective drawing that makes that side of the chip look like it is a round ashtray with CA info between the rests. Maybe some ash and a few bands in the bottom.
 
No indication of tray brand, etc. just a perspective drawing. Probably from above and a but to the side, like the one pictured here: http://img.cigarsinternational.com/l...m-soaash01.jpg . Of course you could not have a cigar resting since it would be clipped at the edge of the chip. | 
	
 You could move the cigar in and just have a bit over the edge of the "tray" that would give you a few mm around the edge that wasn't ashtray, or you could just have a couple butts in the ashtray that have already been smoked, the herf is over and it's time for you to leave message.. inside S.H.I.T. herf joke as Goatlocker and I can have the habit of being the last ones to leave  
