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				It's terrible, but I have found the biggest pickup in just completely stopping alcohol consumption. I quit drinking beer about 2 1/2 years ago and switched to just white liqours, so vodka or scotch mostly. I cut that out when I want to drop. Also try carb cycling.  http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a..._cycling_codex - of course that will mean losing the rice some days...    
			
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 I don't have a thing for beer or alcohol to be honest..if I drink it's usually a coke and rum. Even that is at most 1x a month.
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 Frank is that more chest or triceps? 
I don't know how you guys can do Guinness. That stuff is so damn thick.