Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts?

BHalbrooks · 03-04-2012, 11:14 PM

Just like the Title says, I'm wondering what the good folks here think about it.

Remo · 03-04-2012, 11:16 PM

Always has been, probably always will be...they just happened to get caught.

jluck · 03-04-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Remo_5_0

Always has been, probably always will be...they just happened to get caught.

X2...In all levels and types of sports.

BHalbrooks · 03-04-2012, 11:37 PM

That's my thoughts. Like with Spygate. They weren't the only teams doing it, just the first to get caught.

Remo · 03-04-2012, 11:40 PM

Bounties may not get spoken out loud from now on, but a few grand in the pocket and a steak dinner can't be beat

taltos · 03-05-2012, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Remo_5_0

Bounties may not get spoken out loud from now on, but a few grand in the pocket and a steak dinner can't be beat

Until the IRS gets involved due to undeclared income. I hope that they get the same hatred that was given the Patriots.

Stephen · 03-05-2012, 06:09 AM

All I know is that some dude's had to have made some coin beating the piss out of Brett Favre a couple of years ago.

Stephen · 03-05-2012, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Until the IRS gets involved due to undeclared income.

Yep. That's going to be the biggest fallout from all of this i think.

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Originally Posted by taltos

I hope that they get the same hatred that was given the Patriots.

Spygate and this aren't even in the same league.

03-05-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Until the IRS gets involved due to undeclared income. I hope that they get the same hatred that was given the Patriots.

Yeah the steaks and cash would be income for the players, compensation really. Unless they some how can structure it as "meals and entertainment" or some other avoidance measure. I'd imagine it would be a tax deductable business expense for the team though.

03-05-2012, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Yeah the steaks and cash would be income for the players, compensation really. Unless they some how can structure it as "meals and entertainment" or some other avoidance measure. I'd imagine it would be a tax deductable business expense for the team though.

I guess the players could possible structure the payments as "eligible" ordinary dividends, which would be taxed at long-term capital gain tax rates, which would surely be better than prizes and award taxe rates. Other than that, they will pay taxes on the payments recieved in some fashion. With the payments most likely being very large, it's worth it for the IRS to poke their noses around.

03-05-2012, 09:05 AM

I don't have a problem with bounty payments. Makes for interesting football. The problem is with the rules and shitty calls being made.

Sauer Grapes · 03-05-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Until the IRS gets involved due to undeclared income. I hope that they get the same hatred that was given the Patriots.

This is different than spy gate in many ways. In some ways it is much worse (mainly that they were trying to injure opposing players). In some ways it isn't as bad (it didn't likely change the outcome of many games, if any).

Sure, they saints have been "good" for several years, but they haven't built a dynasty on cheating.

Neither this or spy gate are acceptable.

proguy747 · 03-05-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Until the IRS gets involved due to undeclared income. I hope that they get the same hatred that was given the Patriots.

Big difference between gambling and cheating.

E.J. · 03-05-2012, 07:05 AM

I could not care less..... I am sure there will be some significant fines levied by the NFL, but this comes as no surprise. Been going on forever....and will continue to go on.

E.J. · 03-05-2012, 07:08 AM

In High School and College, the bounties are stickers on your helmet... They go out headhunting, leave a few guys withering on the ground, you can bet they'll be adding to their stamp collection. The guys in the NFL just get paid more....

chippewastud79 · 03-05-2012, 07:10 AM

Less than shocked.

forgop · 03-05-2012, 07:14 AM

Listened to Mike and Mike a bit this morning. Over all the "outrage" about how much Warner and Favre got hit, they said there weren't any hits that were illegal.

03-05-2012, 10:34 AM

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Listened to Mike and Mike a bit this morning. Over all the "outrage" about how much Warner and Favre got hit, they said there weren't any hits that were illegal.

There were some hit that we're definately illegal. He was hit a few times way after the whistle was blown. The refs excuse after was the crowd noise was so loud they didn't know if the defensive player could hear the whistle. Since when did that matter? The saints are a dirty team. The refs let them get away with it for that playoff season.

drob · 03-12-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by goomer

There were some hit that we're definately illegal. He was hit a few times way after the whistle was blown. The refs excuse after was the crowd noise was so loud they didn't know if the defensive player could hear the whistle. Since when did that matter? The saints are a dirty team. The refs let them get away with it for that playoff season.

These are statements without proof. Prove it!

Subvet642 · 03-05-2012, 07:15 AM

Let's see...people getting paid to intentionally injure someone...sounds like a felony to me. Actually, it sounds like several felonies.

03-04-2012, 11:14 PM	#1
BHalbrooks Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2011 First Name: B Location: Texas Posts: 1,122 Trading: (5)	Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? Just like the Title says, I'm wondering what the good folks here think about it.

03-04-2012, 11:16 PM	#2
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? Always has been, probably always will be...they just happened to get caught. __________________

03-04-2012, 11:37 PM	#4
BHalbrooks Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2011 First Name: B Location: Texas Posts: 1,122 Trading: (5)	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? That's my thoughts. Like with Spygate. They weren't the only teams doing it, just the first to get caught.

03-04-2012, 11:40 PM	#5
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? Bounties may not get spoken out loud from now on, but a few grand in the pocket and a steak dinner can't be beat __________________

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Stephen Sultan of Cigars Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Stephen Location: Where the Pony Express began and Jesse James ended. Posts: 1,582 Trading: (18)	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? All I know is that some dude's had to have made some coin beating the piss out of Brett Favre a couple of years ago.

03-05-2012, 09:05 AM	#11
ChicagoWhiteSox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? I don't have a problem with bounty payments. Makes for interesting football. The problem is with the rules and shitty calls being made.

03-05-2012, 07:05 AM	#14
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? I could not care less..... I am sure there will be some significant fines levied by the NFL, but this comes as no surprise. Been going on forever....and will continue to go on.

03-05-2012, 07:08 AM	#15
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? In High School and College, the bounties are stickers on your helmet... They go out headhunting, leave a few guys withering on the ground, you can bet they'll be adding to their stamp collection. The guys in the NFL just get paid more....

03-05-2012, 07:10 AM	#16
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? Less than shocked. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

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forgop Not a puffer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Duane Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 2,869 Trading: (40)	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? Listened to Mike and Mike a bit this morning. Over all the "outrage" about how much Warner and Favre got hit, they said there weren't any hits that were illegal.

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Subvet642 Bilge Rat Join Date: Nov 2009 First Name: Darren Location: Torpedo Room Bilge Posts: 2,997 Trading: (13)	Re: Saints accused of "Bounty Program". Thoughts? Let's see...people getting paid to intentionally injure someone...sounds like a felony to me. Actually, it sounds like several felonies. __________________ *"Man's mind is his basic tool of survival. Life is given to him, survival is not." -John Galt*