Need help with surrond sound. Speaker/Tech gurus in here please.

[hammondc]

Originally Posted by Dave128

Yes, both systems sound good to me.

My parents Fisher system is at least 20 years old and still sounds damn good. It has all seperate components that I'd put up against just about anything else I've heard. I used to sell systems 10 years ago while in college. I used to know a thing or two about music systems. I used their system as a comparison. Bad choice on my part I guess.

You guys seem to be the all encompassing experts on this particular subject. Have either of you ever heard what the Bose wireless system sounds like? What systems do you guys have (be honest)? Educate me, please.

Since you asked..
Bose is like Gurkha. They make an OK product at a grossly inflated price. Nothing about either product is particularly terrible, but they both should cost about 1/4 of what they do (if that much). The noise canceling headphones are actually quite good, but that is where it ends for me.

Bose used to be a leading edge speaker manufacturer. I mean like 35 or 40 years ago before modern surround. They were one of the first to created a surround sound with just 2 front speakers with with the Bose 901. They had a rear firing speaker in them that bounced the sound off the ceiling and wall behind them. This created just enough delay to trick your ears. Then came the little cube speakers and bass module. That was probably 20 years ago. That was the last innovation they had.

Bose and Gurkha both have geniuses in their marketing departments. The target market for Bose seems to be fairly affluent people who do not know a lot about home theater or 2 channel audio who want a decent product with an impressive brand name. Somehow...Bose manages to convince people they need to spend $3k on a pretty damn good music distribution system with a bunch of crappy speakers.

The problem with all of the above is that there are other speakers in the same niche market that will blow the plastic enclosures off those supercubes....like Anthony Gallo, Totem Acoustics or Mirage....and they will do it at a lower price.

HT is my addiction. I have spent a lot of my hard earned cash to get to the point I am at now. When I started putting it together years ago I spent a lot of time researching on forums, reading in publications and listening to a LOT of speakers. It took me 6 years to get to where I have it now and I am starting to get 'upgrade-itus'. If anyone wants to know how HT can sound, stop by and I will put some stuff on that will shred your face. The subwoofer alone will knock **** off the walls and has pretty flat in-room response down to about 18hz.

Originally Posted by hammondc

HT is my addiction. I have spent a lot of my hard earned cash to get to the point I am at now. When I started putting it together years ago I spent a lot of time researching on forums, reading in publications and listening to a LOT of speakers. It took me 6 years to get to where I have it now and I am starting to get 'upgrade-itus'. If anyone wants to know how HT can sound, stop by and I will put some stuff on that will shred your face. The subwoofer alone will knock **** off the walls and has pretty flat in-room response down to about 18hz.

You sound like me,

My system has been years in the making, always tweaking

Right now I'm running a 7.2 system with dual subs, my room response like yours is fairly flat down into the mid teens.

the names of the speakers aren't important. Small, ID companies who nobody has ever heard of that buys in a big box store. Fronts, center, sides and rear are an axiom setup, subs are dual outlaw LFM-1 EX's running in max extension mode. I love having new people come over to the house and putting on something like The Matrix or WOW and watching them almost **** themselves when the subsonics hit them in the chest and the windows of the house start rattling in the frames,

[hammondc]

Originally Posted by Resipsa

You sound like me,

My system has been years in the making, always tweaking

Right now I'm running a 7.2 system with dual subs, my room response like yours is fairly flat down into the mid teens.

the names of the speakers aren't important. Small, ID companies who nobody has ever heard of that buys in a big box store. Fronts, center, sides and rear are an axiom setup, subs are dual outlaw LFM-1 EX's running in max extension mode. I love having new people come over to the house and putting on something like The Matrix or WOW and watching them almost **** themselves when the subsonics hit them in the chest and the windows of the house start rattling in the frames,

Yep...I looked at and tried Axiom back when they did free shipping for returns. Like them a lot, but they seemed very bright to me (which is why I also do not like Klipsch). All my speakers are from the now defunct AV123 (Onix audio) including an MFW15 for a sub. That thing absolute destroys at about 50% gain. Good pick on Axiom...good stuff. I like the Aperion gear too.

Originally Posted by hammondc

Yep...I looked at and tried Axiom back when they did free shipping for returns. Like them a lot, but they seemed very bright to me (which is why I also do not like Klipsch). All my speakers are from the now defunct AV123 (Onix audio) including an MFW15 for a sub. That thing absolute destroys at about 50% gain. Good pick on Axiom...good stuff. I like the Aperion gear too.

the fact that both klipsch and axiom seem bright to many is probably at least partly attributable to the fact that both use metal cones.

I'm very interested in the Emotiva 8.3's, or maybe the 6.2's and may make a chnage in the near future. Given my room, I like the boundary and tweeter controls they provide.

[hammondc]

Originally Posted by Resipsa

the fact that both klipsch and axiom seem bright to many is probably at least partly attributable to the fact that both use metal cones.

I'm very interested in the Emotiva 8.3's, or maybe the 6.2's and may make a chnage in the near future. Given my room, I like the boundary and tweeter controls they provide.

And horns (at least in Klipsch). I really do not like horns. Emotiva stuff is supposed the be the bee's knees. I have not heard any of it yet.

[jkim05]

Originally Posted by hammondc

And horns (at least in Klipsch). I really do not like horns. Emotiva stuff is supposed the be the bee's knees. I have not heard any of it yet.

Yeah the horn tweeters in Klipsch speakers can cause listening fatigue pretty quickly for me. I wouldn't have gone with the Deftechs myself, but I got them at cost, so it was too good of a deal to turn down. Plus, they're shop is not far from me so if I need repairs, I don't have to worry about shipping.