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					Originally Posted by E.J.  Let it be known that I'd settle for MLB to Pete Rose him.... | 
	
 
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					Originally Posted by Gophernut  I'd rather see Rose in the HOF then Clemens. | 
	
 
Do I think Clemens is guilty, not only of using PEDs but of lying to Congress?  Yes.  Do I think either of these allegations has yet been proven?  No.
Do I think Pete Rose did something that Roger Clemens never did . . . violate a written rule of MLB, and in his case one which has become the one inviolate cardinal rule since the Black Sox scandel over a century ago?  Yes.  Do I think Rose lied about that in his repeated denials against all evidence to the contrary?  Yes.
I am no Clemens fan, and if he's denied the Hall Of Fame due to these allegations, be they ever proven or not, then so be it.  But I shall never . . . NEVER! . . . understand why Pete Rose supporters are so willing to overlook both his "crime" and his overweening, all-encompassing @$$holeness.  Ty Cobb was a bigger jerk than Pete Rose, but not by much.
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  , and worth every penny.