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Old 01-08-2009, 10:20 PM   #1
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Your cooler setup sounds fine. It may just be the smokes dont suit your current tastes. Keep trying different sticks. Pay particular attention to the type of wrappers you choose. Maduros will have a bit more sweetness. Padron x000 maduros are a good decently priced stick. Try to avoid smoking sticks fresh off the truck, give them a few weeks to acclimate.

If you can make it up to Napa on the 24th we are having a herf and I am sure we can hook you up with a few smokes to try.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:29 PM   #2
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thanks for the advice. I have been trying many different cigars, and have noticed i am enjoying the darker (fuller bodied?) wrappers more. thank you for the invite, i saw your thread in the herf section. I will try to make it, just working out the details right now.

on another note, how close can cigars be kept to a humidification device, mainly beads?
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:04 AM   #3
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Try to avoid smoking sticks fresh off the truck, give them a few weeks to acclimate.
This sounds like it could be part (but not all) of the problem. How long did they sit for after you got them in?
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:13 AM   #4
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Some heavy duty smokers will tell you that too much spanish cedar, in a coolerdor or a tupperdor for instance can actually impact the flavour of your cigars. You can use a more traditional cedar will also do nicely (and cheaper) as far as improving the flavour of your cigars. Bitterness can sometimes be attributed to a poorly aged cigar, or a wet one too, so I would consider taking your Rh down to below 70-65 or so...(I set at 67) and that will also make your cigars more smokable too.
I dont know if this really helps...but have at it
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:09 AM   #5
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Some heavy duty smokers will tell you that too much spanish cedar, in a coolerdor or a tupperdor for instance can actually impact the flavour of your cigars. You can use a more traditional cedar will also do nicely (and cheaper) as far as improving the flavour of your cigars. Bitterness can sometimes be attributed to a poorly aged cigar, or a wet one too, so I would consider taking your Rh down to below 70-65 or so...(I set at 67) and that will also make your cigars more smokable too.
I dont know if this really helps...but have at it
Sorry, but I will have to respectfully disagree about using NORMAL traditional cedar... that will impart MORE cedar taste to the cigars...

Might as well add mothballs while you are at it...
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:25 AM   #6
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Sorry, but I will have to respectfully disagree about using NORMAL traditional cedar... that will impart MORE cedar taste to the cigars...

Might as well add mothballs while you are at it...


I wouldnt recommend that either. Traditional Cedar will ruin your sticks.

Spanish Cedar is actually a mis-nomer... its neither Spanish, nor Cedar.

Its actually from the mohogany family.
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I do not have any spanish cedar in my coolidor. Does a coolidor require cedar to maintain quality cigars?
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:42 AM   #8
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I do not have any spanish cedar in my coolidor. Does a coolidor require cedar to maintain quality cigars?
short answer would be no... not for short term.

Spanish cedar helps in maintaining a stable enviorment in that it soaks up and holds moisture. This way when you open the lid your coolerdor comes back to the appropriate RH% faster. That is why it is recommended that if you dont have your humi 70% or more filled, put some cedar blocks (or boxes in the larger cabinets and vinos) in there to help regulate RH%

For long term I would say it would only benefit your sticks to be surrounded by SPANISH cedar
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I do not have any spanish cedar in my coolidor. Does a coolidor require cedar to maintain quality cigars?
Nope. The only cedar I have in mine are the boxes the cigars came in and all of them are not cabinets.
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Some heavy duty smokers will tell you that too much spanish cedar, in a coolerdor or a tupperdor for instance can actually impact the flavour of your cigars. You can use a more traditional cedar will also do nicely (and cheaper) as far as improving the flavour of your cigars. Bitterness can sometimes be attributed to a poorly aged cigar, or a wet one too, so I would consider taking your Rh down to below 70-65 or so...(I set at 67) and that will also make your cigars more smokable too.
I dont know if this really helps...but have at it

Normal cedar is great for storing you sweaters in or lining your sauna with, but I would highly recommend that you do not put normal cedar in your humidor unless you enjoy smoking trees. Normal cedar is far more aromatic than spanish cedar (which as mentioned before is actually mahogany) and will impart flavors in your cigars. Kind of like leaving a jar of crushed garlic open in the fridge beside the butter dish and then wondering why your morning toast has a sudden "italian" flair. There is a reason that spanish cedar is the mainstay of humidors and cigar boxes and has been for well forever.
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Kind of like leaving a jar of crushed garlic open in the fridge beside the butter dish and then wondering why your morning toast has a sudden "italian" flair. .
whats wrong with having an Italian Flair???
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whats wrong with having an Italian Flair???

Absolutely nothing, my love for things Italian runs very deep

My love for cedar hope chest cigars.............not so much
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:58 PM   #13
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This sounds like it could be part (but not all) of the problem. How long did they sit for after you got them in?
bobarain and Agent11br, the smokes have been sitting in the cooler since 11/08
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