MLB 2013 Thread

[Bruins Fan]

Koji..Koji..Koji

[357]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

Cabrera and Fielder needed to produce in that spot.

Game 3, 8th inning, runners on 1st and 3rd, Miggy up to bat with Prince behind him and 0 runs scored in a 1-0 game. Brutal. Miggy admitted to a reporter that he got himself out swinging at junk.

Originally Posted by pnoon

Out at second? He wasn't even in the same zip code.

This "neighborhood" crap at 2nd base has to get fixed. I'm against it in all cases, even for my team. Are outs called anywhere else in baseball for being close? There is no justification for this that I can stomach. It's all Are 1st downs granted in the NFL for being close enough to 10 yards from the line of scrimmage?

[billybarue]

Originally Posted by 357

This "neighborhood" crap at 2nd base has to get fixed. I'm against it in all cases, even for my team. Are outs called anywhere else in baseball for being close? There is no justification for this that I can stomach. It's all Are 1st downs granted in the NFL for being close enough to 10 yards from the line of scrimmage?

Couldn't agree more!

The only justification that is plausible is to eliminate hard/high slides, or just going into 2nd hard, to break up the DP. Sorry, but I don't buy that one either. It's part of the game that has been eliminated. When's the last time you saw someone "really" try to break up a DP. I'm surprised they haven't figured out how to prevent someone going hard into the catcher (ala, Buster Posey).

Are baseball players too frail or fragile today? Wideouts/Tight Ends still have to go across the middle and in hockey you still have to go into the corner for the puck. But I guess baseball is comfortable with where the sport has gone - pitching and home runs. Not much "small ball" played at the MLB level anymore.

[AdamJoshua]

Originally Posted by billybarue

Couldn't agree more!

The only justification that is plausible is to eliminate hard/high slides, or just going into 2nd hard, to break up the DP. Sorry, but I don't buy that one either. It's part of the game that has been eliminated. When's the last time you saw someone "really" try to break up a DP. I'm surprised they haven't figured out how to prevent someone going hard into the catcher (ala, Buster Posey).

Are baseball players too frail or fragile today? Wideouts/Tight Ends still have to go across the middle and in hockey you still have to go into the corner for the puck. But I guess baseball is comfortable with where the sport has gone - pitching and home runs. Not much "small ball" played at the MLB level anymore.

I think having people slide in spikes first running as fast as they can does justify a bit of a judgement call on the umps part, don't care who the teams are.

[357]

Originally Posted by AdamJoshua

I think having people slide in spikes first running as fast as they can does justify a bit of a judgement call on the umps part, don't care who the teams are.

WAHHHHH.

It still happens despite this neighborhood crap. Players get injured trying to complete or breakup double plays all the time. It's part of the game. Leave it alone and get rid of this "you dont' REALLY have to actually touch the base while you have the ball to get an out" interpretation of the rule. It's fundamental to the game.

NFL teams dont' get a first down for 29ft from scrimmage do they? Do they count hitting the goal post as a goal in the NHL? It's insane to me they way it's handled now.

[AdamJoshua]

Hey Mac, they are doing just fine... shush!

[pnoon]

Out at second? He wasn't even in the same zip code.

[CigarSquid]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Out at second? He wasn't even in the same zip code.

That was a sad call.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Out at second? He wasn't even in the same zip code.

Originally Posted by garryyjr

That was a sad call.

Hoping it doesn't matter. Fingers and toes crossed. I still remember Game 2. Leyland better bring in Coke if that scenario repeats itself, or maybe I will start doing coke.....

[AdamJoshua]

Wow Peavy couldn't throw a strike to save his life AND Pedroia bobbled an easy DP ball, that being said I think there are some good Big Bang Theory re-runs on =P

[357]

All that aside, it was good to see AJ hitting, walking, stealing, and scoring runs. It seems many of the bats came to life against Peavy. I hope it can continue for the Tigers against Lester.

[AdamJoshua]

Iggy's play on Ortiz's bloop was one of the top 3 catches, right up there with Lance B.'s rolling dive of a catch to preserve Nomo's no hitter with the RedSox vs the Os many many years ago.

[CigarSquid]

I am glad to see Boston wake up a bit.

[357]

Tigers need some extra base hits. Nothing but singles makes it tough to score. Miggy has a pretty good excuse, but Prince has to start cracking the bat. Facing elimination, there's no better tandem of pitchers in the league I'd rather have on the bump that Scherzer and Verlander (if it goes 7).

[Bruins Fan]

Boston's bull pen has been lights out..Koji has only walked two and given up like two runs in 53 innings.
Sox are back in friendly Fenway..and the bats should come alive?

[357]

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

Boston's bull pen has been lights out..Koji has only walked two and given up like two runs in 53 innings.
Sox are back in friendly Fenway..and the bats should come alive?

I don't think homefield offers a big advantage in baseball but Fenway is a bit different in that regard. Knowing how to play fly balls off the monster is an advantage, as is the ability to hit fly balls to LF over that thing. The Tigers did get to Buchholz the first time, so hopefully that will continue.

[Bruins Fan]

Buchholz is still coming back from an injury,you see flashes of what he his game is.
If he gets it together he is as dominant as any pitcher in the game..we will see what he brings tomorrow?

[357]

Yes the Ty Cobb style slides (trying to injure) are not common, but guys frequently slide into defensive players to break up double-plays. It happened on the play I was complaining about. Nobody was hurt THAT time but it happens a lot I'm sure given 162 games/year.

I Googled "injured breaking up double play" and there's 5 players mentioned on the first page, no incident older than 2012.

Here's Jacoby Ellsbury this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWV7uRtmk0c

According to this http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...42700&c_id=mlb all the player has to do is make an attempt to touch 2B when breaking up a double play.

I suggest a comprimise of sorts. It should be legal to break up the play but if you don't touch the base, you should be ejected. AND, the defensive player would actually have to touch the base and the basesball at the same time, EVERYTIME!!!! This way you would eliminate or strongly discourage going way outside the basepath to injure someone while preserving the fundamentals/integrity of the game.

Jose freaking Abreu

[357]

Good to "see" you Nate.