is it wrong to withold a source?

[Genetic Defect]

I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller.

[68TriShield]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller.

I don't think so Perry,not at all.

[Genetic Defect]

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

I don't think so Perry,not at all.

I see I worded it craptasticly

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I see, the one source you used to get reasonable prices on and then pad the price and sell them, so this guy took money out of your hand. and you rather not have your supplemental income cut even smaller.

that's a pretty big accusation. i don't pad pricing and i don't sell cigars as supplemental income. if i did there would be tons upon tons of for sale threads by me. ask some of the people who have herfed and met with me and seen my collection. assumptions are just awesome.

but whatever, i did bring up the subject but it was you who decide to run your mouth trying to stir up something (and i add this isn't the fist time i've seen it on this board).

[Genetic Defect]

Originally Posted by barbourjay

that's a pretty big accusation. i don't pad pricing and i don't sell cigars as supplemental income. if i did there would be tons upon tons of for sale threads by me. ask some of the people who have herfed and met with me and seen my collection. assumptions are just awesome.

but whatever, i did bring up the subject but it was you who decide to run your mouth trying to stir up something (and i add this isn't the fist time i've seen it on this board).

It sounded harsher then I meant, I could see not wanting to give out a source due to losing money either with sales or because someone will pay the higher price. You did state that about the earlier source.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by barbourjay

that's a pretty big accusation. i don't pad pricing and i don't sell cigars as supplemental income. if i did there would be tons upon tons of for sale threads by me. ask some of the people who have herfed and met with me and seen my collection. assumptions are just awesome.

but whatever, i did bring up the subject but it was you who decide to run your mouth trying to stir up something (and i add this isn't the fist time i've seen it on this board).

Originally Posted by Big Vito

It sounded harsher then I meant, I could see not wanting to give out a source due to losing money either with sales or because someone will pay the higher price. You did state that about the earlier source.

I'm going to step in here and say, that at times, Perry can be . . . well, Perry.
Jeremy, I can certainly see how you read his post but I honestly believe it was not meant as a slam against you but support for you not wanting to divulge sources.




Group hug !

[Genetic Defect]

Originally Posted by pnoon

I'm going to step in here and say, that at times, Perry can be . . . well, Perry.
Jeremy, I can certainly see how you read his post but I honestly believe it was not meant as a slam against you but support for you not wanting to divulge sources.




Group hug !

I pmd Jeremy with an apology. You are right Peter, and sometimes it sucks being a blockhead.

again Sorry Jeremy.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I pmd Jeremy with an apology. You are right Peter, and sometimes it sucks being a blockhead.

again Sorry Jeremy.

On the contrary, Perry. An apology wasn't needed but I am sure it was appreciated. I think, in this case, electronic communication betrayed the intent of the message.

Originally Posted by pnoon

On the contrary, Perry. An apology wasn't needed but I am sure it was appreciated. I think, in this case, electronic communication betrayed the intent of the message.

totally agree here. i see it all the time which is why i brought up the assumptions thing. hard to convey while typing a lot of the range of human emotion and thought.

[Smokin Gator]

Originally Posted by Big Vito

I pmd Jeremy with an apology. You are right Peter, and sometimes it sucks being a blockhead.

again Sorry Jeremy.

Hey brother... I gotta tell you I appreciate that. Not saying you were right or wrong or in the middle. It just means a lot to me that at times we take a step back and say hey... I may have hurt a brother's feelings whether I meant to or not.

Thanks...

Originally Posted by Big Vito

It sounded harsher then I meant, I could see not wanting to give out a source due to losing money either with sales or because someone will pay the higher price. You did state that about the earlier source.

yup but it's not about losing the money as i said before. it's about not wanting to pay 20$ for a robusto because someone else who is selling for a profit is willing to go that high. there is a line to be drawn and i feel 1-2$ above msrp on somethings is reasonable. double to triple is not.

I know its a little late, but from the other side of the fence (the guy with no sources of any kind) I still agree with everyone here. If you know someone is trustworthy then sharing sources is fine but there is no need to risk shooting yourself in the foot with a complete stranger.

If you want to help out a stranger, then offer to pick up a few sticks and sell them to him at the price you paid. He gets the sticks for a good price and you keep your sources safe. Everyone wins.

[livwire68]

Pick and choose and be very picky! If you are sure then then hook them up! If they correspond continually with you or come back for another season let your guard down some! You cant be the "big shot" to everyone. I have connections which I never use, I still just dont feel right. I try to never take advantage, no matter how much I "want"! In due time I will but they will not be forgotten!

[neoflex]

I would say judge it on a situation to situation basis. I have had vendors that I dealt with in the past that had really great pricing and shared the source and next thing you know the word spread like wild fire and than their pricing was reported to the manufacturer which in turned made them have to adjust their pricing because word must have gotten to other vendors and they cried about it which ruined it for not only me but everyone else. If I find really crazy deals I normally keep them to myself or only share it with close friends and tell them to keep it quiet too. I have also had vendors hook me up with fantastic pricing and tell me to keep quiet about the pricing and not share the deal they gave me so they in turn do no run into the situation described above. If a vendor has something hard to find and their pricing is retail I have no problem sharing the source especially if they do online sales. If they don't I do not mind working out a deal where I pick the sticks up for them if the vendor is not local to them etc etc. But if they sell a 5er/box to someone and they sell it online for an over inflated price, well I do not see how I could be held accountable. They chose to make the sale so they in turn would be just as guilty. You can't control what people do with the product after it is sold and they made there money on it so I do not see how a vendor can get pissed at you for something that a person whom they sold their product to did after the fact. Yes, you may have tipped the person off to your vendor but that by no means gives the vendor the right to make you guilty by association IMHO. I can see how that would make you very leary sharing your sources though and like you would probably keep my mouth shut after having it happen one or more times. I just think it is wrong of the vendor to beat you up for it. If the person asking does not get the answer they are looking for and in turn reams you out for it, well that person should be addressing other issues other than acquiring fine cigars and if that is their reaction, than I would also think that they are the very shady salesman that you are trying to avoid tipping off. So what vendors do you deal with? Huh, Huh??? J/K!