Opinions/Experiences with F150/Tundras

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Originally Posted by Pistol

It is a fair comparison, because I'm not comparing trim levels. I compared reliability and cost of ownership over time between my two vehicles with truck-sized engine and tranny combos. My GX470 has a 4.7 liter V8 in it which is very comparable to the F150. They are in the same class under the hood. The F350 is totally stripped down, which is what I wanted for my work truck; so of course there's no comfort comparison to the Lexus! For the record though, you're right, we've had several engine problems. I still prefer Ford over Chevy and Dodge though. Just as an FYI, for my model's year, the only difference between a 4runner and the GX470 is body style and trim level. They have the same engine (in the V8 for the 4runner) and same chassis.

True but a Cohiba is made from the same tobacco as many other cigars but it is still better. I wasn't saying Lexus/Toyota aren't the same so and so more that a 1 ton truck compared to a less than 1/4 ton (class not weight) sport utility is unfair. More so when you compare amenities. The main reason to not compare is that neither vehicle is or should be doing the same things. If you are pulling the horse trailer with the GX then lets compare. But to compare your engine reliability to an engine not even available in an F150 is absurd, how does that work? Let's compare your engine reliability to Fords 4.6 2V, while grossly underpowered is a great engine.

The main reason is that personal comparisons are already invalid because of too small a sample size. Every automakers makes a lemon now and then. Ask anyone with a 2000 Tundra and rusty frame. When you start comparing different class vehicles you just make it worse.

I think this is more true in trucks than with cars too. They just don't and shouldn't do the same things.

When you buy a truck why you buy it should be based on what you are going to do with it. It's reliability against a vehicle that cannot do the same thing is just a weird comparison to me.