Chicago Bears Land Cutler

Originally Posted by forgop

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees would have put up 3000 yards in that offense last year. The OL and WR are bad. Don't worry.

Whats wrong with the OL and WR's?

[forgop]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Whats wrong with the OL and WR's?

It's pretty simple: they're not any good.

Look no further at WR when they had Muhammad-he's a borderline #2 WR on a handful of teams and a #3 WR on a lot of teams, yet he was the Bears #1. Hester is fast as can be, but he's not really even a WR. Their top 2 OL are past their prime, both going into something like their 11th and 12th years in the NFL. How often did Bears QB's have any time to throw the ball even when there wasn't a blitz?

On top of the lack of talent issues, the Bears have a terrible system to move the ball in the air. Ron Turner's offense is about as conservative as there is in the NFL. Kyle Orton had to be dumbed down to Turner's offense compared to the offense he ran at Purdue. I'll admit that being a Purdue grad, I'm really partial to Orton and want him to do well, but I don't see that anyone would have come in and done in better with what he's had to work with in Chicago thus far.

What stinks out of all of this now is that I'll very seldom get to watch him on tv as the Bears were on quite often being in the Indy market. Now, I'll have to hit up a sports bar with the Sunday Ticket to watch the game, drink a couple beers, and light up a cigar or two, not that I'm complaining of course.

Originally Posted by forgop

It's pretty simple: they're not any good.

Look no further at WR when they had Muhammad-he's a borderline #2 WR on a handful of teams and a #3 WR on a lot of teams, yet he was the Bears #1. Hester is fast as can be, but he's not really even a WR. Their top 2 OL are past their prime, both going into something like their 11th and 12th years in the NFL. How often did Bears QB's have any time to throw the ball even when there wasn't a blitz?

On top of the lack of talent issues, the Bears have a terrible system to move the ball in the air. Ron Turner's offense is about as conservative as there is in the NFL. Kyle Orton had to be dumbed down to Turner's offense compared to the offense he ran at Purdue. I'll admit that being a Purdue grad, I'm really partial to Orton and want him to do well, but I don't see that anyone would have come in and done in better with what he's had to work with in Chicago thus far.

What stinks out of all of this now is that I'll very seldom get to watch him on tv as the Bears were on quite often being in the Indy market. Now, I'll have to hit up a sports bar with the Sunday Ticket to watch the game, drink a couple beers, and light up a cigar or two, not that I'm complaining of course.

The only place the bears lack talent would be WR. They dont have a "number 1 guy". But the free agency looks good right now. If they got cutler, why cant they go get TJ Houshmadzadah, or Antonio Bryant(which is on his way to career highs). The TE is very good for the bears. Desmond Clark has always done well and Olson had a great season. Also, I think that Rashied Davis is a decent wr and hate when he gets thrown under the bus. The running game is looking good with forte and wolfe. The OL will now have a former superbowl champion, 7 time probowler, and 2 time lombardi award winner in Orlando Pace. He is not passed his prime. He also has a great relationship with Lovie.(st. louis together) He wanted to come play for chicago. He said he felt as good as ever in his career when he talked to Lovie. And as far as cutler being a baby and a ass in the locker room, Urlacher will take care of that

[icehog3]

Bring back Bob Avellini!!

[Whee]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Bring back Bob Avellini!!

How 'bout Bobby Douglass?

[St. Lou Stu]

Man...... I am a HUGE Broncos fan and can say.... Y'all can have him!

Kid makes a TON of AWFUL decisions. I just wish we didn't have to take Orton off of your hands. Seems like an even trade to me, but I guess the draft picks make it worth it.

Too bad you guys gave up the draft picks. You need those so Cutler has someone to throw the ball to.

Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu

Man...... I am a HUGE Broncos fan and can say.... Y'all can have him!

Kid makes a TON of AWFUL decisions. I just wish we didn't have to take Orton off of your hands. Seems like an even trade to me, but I guess the draft picks make it worth it.

Too bad you guys gave up the draft picks. You need those so Cutler has someone to throw the ball to.

Or someone from free-agency

[St. Lou Stu]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Or someone from free-agency

True. Buress is out there.....

On a side note:
I actually went to the pre-season Bears v. Broncos game a few years ago at U of I Memorial Stadium. Cool place to see a pro game. nice and cozy.

Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu

True. Buress is out there.....

On a side note:
I actually went to the pre-season Bears v. Broncos game a few years ago at U of I Memorial Stadium. Cool place to see a pro game. nice and cozy.

I would rather see either of tj houshmandzadeh, antonio bryant, or even toomer. I didnt even know buress was a free agent.

[St. Lou Stu]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

I would rather see either of tj houshmandzadeh, antonio bryant, or even toomer. I didnt even know buress was a free agent.

He is as of today or yesterday.

Housh and Bryant would be nice choices. Cutler needs some good coaching. I don't know how Shanahan didn't get him any help. Maybe Lovie can knock the crap outta him to set him straight!?!?!?

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

I would rather see either of tj houshmandzadeh, antonio bryant, or even toomer. I didnt even know buress was a free agent.

Houshmenzadah was signed by Seattle a month or two ago. Antonio Bryant was franchised by Tampa.

[Whee]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

I would rather see either of tj houshmandzadeh, antonio bryant, or even toomer. I didnt even know buress was a free agent.

TJ went to Seattle a couple of weeks back.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Or someone from free-agency

I believe that's the plan.

[St. Lou Stu]

Damn Tom, I had no idea you were that old.
Should I bring some Geritol with the Ron Centrenario to the golf and herf?
Do I need to rent a cart or can I strap my clubs on your Rascal?

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu

Damn Tom, I had no idea you were that old.
Should I bring some Geritol with the Ron Centrenario to the golf and herf?
Do I need to rent a cart or can I strap my clubs on your Rascal?

I could carry the foursomes' clubs myself and not break a sweat.

Damnit! Now I have to get tickets to go see them play at least once if they are going to be good! Gotta show my boy Daniel Manning some ACU love!