Shuriken cutter

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Originally Posted by Zeuceone

Don't feed the troll.

Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Fixt

Come on guys.

Just because he has a differing opinion does not make him a troll.

A troll is someone who comes with the express purpose of disrupting, causing strife and agitating a forum, for their own amusement. There are many ways to do that, but coming in out of nowhere, posting something that sounds like a sales pitch and then a few days later civilly answering responses really isn't it.

Would he have been better served by posting an introduction in the appropriate section first, sure. Could the first post have been less like a shill, it could have been. But that, and the differing opinion, does not necessarily make him a troll.

[Zeuceone]

Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Fixt

Thanks. Takes to long on my phone to post a picture

[cort]

[gnukfu]

Originally Posted by Cort

Dynamite!


Was wondering exactly how this cutter worked. Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll buy one and put it in my drawer next to my Xikar scissors.

I've been using a chainsaw for years but I'm running out of fingers....

Two Guys has them for $19.99 if anyone is interested.

I am really interested to know this. What if it was say, Palio or Xikar that introduced this new style cutter. Would people be more excited and willing to buy?

To me it would not matter, I used a razor blade to memic this style cut and was not happy with it.

But I am curious to know if people's opinions would change based on brand power alone.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by kickerb

I am really interested to know this. What if it was say, Palio or Xikar that introduced this new style cutter. Would people be more excited and willing to buy?

No, although it is the kind of unneeded gadgetry I come to expect from Xikar.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by kickerb

I am really interested to know this. What if it was say, Palio or Xikar that introduced this new style cutter. Would people be more excited and willing to buy?

To me it would not matter, I used a razor blade to memic this style cut and was not happy with it.

But I am curious to know if people's opinions would change based on brand power alone.

Originally Posted by T.G

No, although it is the kind of unneeded gadgetry I come to expect from Xikar.

I can pretty much guarantee you that Palio would never market anything gimmicky. At least under current ownership.

[DPD6030]

Hey give me the sexy leg lamp that was in A Christmas Story...I'm sold. This I will not buy.

based on the fact that B&M owner i know, who smokes at least 3 cigars pretty much every day, has experienced that the cigars cut with this cutter do burn cooler than cigars cut with a guillotine or something else (and he's not a speed smoker) and that his experience is that it does create a more flavorful smoke...and that i'm a sucker for collecting accessories...i've already ordered this from one of his stores.

it's only $19.99 for the plastic-cased edition so i don't feel like i'm committing a lot. based on the fact that this is actually a "new" way to cut cigars and that it works to cut the cigars pretty much means those crying "gimmick" are incorrect. to each their own, but since this has worked for very experienced cigar smokers i can't wait to try it!

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by vinnydisilvio

based on the fact that B&M owner i know, who smokes at least 3 cigars pretty much every day, has experienced that the cigars cut with this cutter do burn cooler than cigars cut with a guillotine or something else (and he's not a speed smoker) and that his experience is that it does create a more flavorful smoke...and that i'm a sucker for collecting accessories...i've already ordered this from one of his stores.

it's only $19.99 for the plastic-cased edition so i don't feel like i'm committing a lot. based on the fact that this is actually a "new" way to cut cigars and that it works to cut the cigars pretty much means those crying "gimmick" are incorrect. to each their own, but since this has worked for very experienced cigar smokers i can't wait to try it!

Opinions vary.

Originally Posted by icehog3

Though being that he profits by selling them, it does raise the question of "would be say they suck"?

actually this guy...yeah he would. he owns 3 very large and successful shops and has a history of saying when there's something that's just a gimmick if he doesn't think it's great. and if it actually sucked he wouldn't buy any for the shop.

Originally Posted by Bill86

Probably not, although he could up-sell you to a more pricey cutter.

He must at least PARTIALLY believe in the thing if he isn't trying to push you into a $50 Xi or Palio.

Or maybe he tries to guess everyones budget based on actions and just says everything in the shop is good

It's really hard to guess peoples motivation.

well, this guy isn't someone i normally buy from. i'm canadian and he's an american shop owner on the opposite coast. he knows he's not gonna get hardly any orders from me because a canadian mail-ordering cigars is far too expensive. he's also not someone who believes in selling someone something he doesn't feel they could use. he's old school, so he believes more in creating a good reputation based on selling people something they will be happy with.

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Based on the fact that the definition of 'gimmick' is "An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget." then yes, it is a gimmick. And based on the fact that it is, in fact, a gimmick doesn't, in fact, make it a bad thing.

Based on those facts, I think it may just be fact that it's all subjective.

well, since that's not the only definition of "gimmick", it's hard to assume that's what people mean when they seem to be using it in a dismissive context. the way a few people on the thread were using it, the definition of "a concealed, usually devious aspect or feature of something, as a plan or deal" since those who called it a gimmick seemed to be saying "i don't see the need for it because..." i mean, really, if you assume the definition you've quoted then nearly every accessory ever made is a gimmick. it didn't sound like that was some others' opinions.

i'm not naive enough to think i can change someone's opinion, but instead just voice my own. i was just stating why i thought it was a good idea to buy.

Originally Posted by pnoon

Opinions vary.

well...it works as a cutter or it doesn't. that's not really a matter of opinion. whether or not people like how it works certainly is though. i can respect that.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by vinnydisilvio

actually this guy...yeah he would. he owns 3 very large and successful shops and has a history of saying when there's something that's just a gimmick if he doesn't think it's great. and if it actually sucked he wouldn't buy any for the shop.



well, this guy isn't someone i normally buy from. i'm canadian and he's an american shop owner on the opposite coast. he knows he's not gonna get hardly any orders from me because a canadian mail-ordering cigars is far too expensive. he's also not someone who believes in selling someone something he doesn't feel they could use. he's old school, so he believes more in creating a good reputation based on selling people something they will be happy with.



well, since that's not the only definition of "gimmick", it's hard to assume that's what people mean when they seem to be using it in a dismissive context. the way a few people on the thread were using it, the definition of "a concealed, usually devious aspect or feature of something, as a plan or deal" since those who called it a gimmick seemed to be saying "i don't see the need for it because..." i mean, really, if you assume the definition you've quoted then nearly every accessory ever made is a gimmick. it didn't sound like that was some others' opinions.

i'm not naive enough to think i can change someone's opinion, but instead just voice my own. i was just stating why i thought it was a good idea to buy.



well...it works as a cutter or it doesn't. that's not really a matter of opinion. whether or not people like how it works certainly is though. i can respect that.

Thanks for enlightening all of us.

Originally Posted by pnoon

Thanks for enlightening all of us.

lol...i'm sorry if i come across as someone who thinks they know it all. that's not the intention.

Originally Posted by poker

Its the same with lighters. Some prefer a soft flame, others a torch or ceder strip. Its not that one is better or worse, but just a personal preference just like cutters. Use what fits your budget and what works for you.

yeah, agreed poker, for sure. this also reminds me that i still feel like i need at least 1 punch (with threads on it to keep it secure, since i lost half of one once) and a V-cutter. i'd love to make my collection "complete".

[icehog3]

Though being that he profits by selling them, it does raise the question of "would be say they suck"?

[Bill86]

Probably not, although he could up-sell you to a more pricey cutter.

He must at least PARTIALLY believe in the thing if he isn't trying to push you into a $50 Xi or Palio.

Or maybe he tries to guess everyones budget based on actions and just says everything in the shop is good

It's really hard to guess peoples motivation.

[NCRadioMan]

Based on the fact that the definition of 'gimmick' is "An innovative or unusual mechanical contrivance; a gadget." then yes, it is a gimmick. And based on the fact that it is, in fact, a gimmick doesn't, in fact, make it a bad thing.

Based on those facts, I think it may just be fact that it's all subjective.

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[0002S]

It's an answer to a question I wasn't asking.

[Sailchaser]

My dollar cutter has worked just fine for the last 10 years while the pallio, firebird, xikar and 10 other cutters all sit in the cabinet along with 20 lighters that I just had to have

[Blak Smyth]

Originally Posted by Sailchaser

My dollar cutter has worked just fine for the last 10 years while the pallio, firebird, xikar and 10 other cutters all sit in the cabinet along with 20 lighters that I just had to have

I have always used a cheap cutter or punch, however I used a Palio at Dom's herf and it was amazingly better than a cheap cutter!
If you want to get rid of your Palio let me know