Sometimes you call a spade a spade

[md4958]

I was just over at another board that Dan is a member of. Hes got some nasty messages on his profile page already, no trader feedback though.

I understand the MODs policy of no other board feedback and actually have examples to illustrate both sides.

A friend of mine on another board ran a GB for some very expensive, rare cigars that turned out to be fake, the vendor scammed them. Now, he got a bad rep on the other board even though it was not his fault, and that he is making everybody involved whole again. We are talking thousands of $$ here. I would hate for his rep to follow him to a board like CA because as I said, he is making good on the bad situation out of his own pocket. This would be a good argument for not allowing other board feedback.

On the other hand, I have another friend that was involved in a trade on our old home, and after months and months of not receiving his end, asked for his portion back (again THOUSANDS of $$ worth of cigars). The cigars ended up being lost in transit or destroyed or whatever, my friend never got his cigars back. This time however the offending individual didnt make good on the situation, saying that he was financially unable. He then proceeds to take an extravagant vacation and boasts about it. (He is still a member here, and probably reading this.) Now, even though this happened on another board, I would never get involved with a trade with this person, nor would I want another to get burned the way my friend got burned. I think this would be a perfect argument for allowing other board feedback.

My point is, its a catch-22. The MODs have a tough enough time keeping the Massholes in line.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by md4958

My point is, its a catch-22. The MODs have a tough enough time keeping the Massholes in line.

Nah, we love youse guys!

P.S.....sorry for the back to back to back posts...my multi-quote doesn't work on this work computer.

Crossboard bad trader feedback is a dicey thing and has far more negatives than positives. But, crossboard notification can be beneficial to the board leadership teams.

FTR Dan has been banned at ICC.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by devilfish

Crossboard bad trader feedback is a dicey thing and has far more negatives than positives. But, crossboard notification can be beneficial to the board leadership teams.

Point taken.

[Bruzee]

I am also angered and saddened by this thread. I cannot add anything helpful that has not already been said. But if I lived within 2 hours of this guy, I would drive to his house. Just to talk, of course!

Maybe it looks like this?

[Don Fernando]

I send Dan a message on facebook, asking what's up, and this is his reply

Mostly it's the johnny o group buy, it's in part my fault of not mailing everything out as soon as I received it, not receiving it when I was told I would, and not sending out updates every couple days to everyone involved. And with this one person thought they were paying for 125 cigars when they were paying for 50, so they were quite peeved over that as well, and I thought I had their sticks but didn't. I still don't have them all but will send what I have.

Then there's the patch group buy, only thing I could do is refund people's money, even though the patches have been made the SSG Robinson is out the money, and I've sent him two checks, which one he says he has, though has not cashed. He said he would mail the patches a little over a week or two ago, though I've not seen anything yet. Communications with him have been very difficult as he's in Afganistan, though I don't know why it's so hard when it wasn't with the last guy.

I have some trades that have taken a while as well, two specifically that are being counted against me even though I fulfilled my part, one was to a guy in canada who never received the sticks, so I sent a replacement with another person's box to him, he's never replied to if he's received it or not, another is to someone I told I'd send free stuff to and he never received them because I never sent yet.

Mostly I've been having problems sending stuff out due to my own depression issues. I'm not saying it's a valid reason, just what my therapist and me have come to. These group buys along with the rest of the stuff in my life is causing me to sort of break down. Then with that I can't get on CA at work since they blocked it with both proxies and I don't have internet at home, and then in my free time I'm trying to update a house so I can move in it so that the other house I can't afford isn't taken from me before I can, I spend the rest of my time with my daughter.

So I guess with all this I was banned, I wasn't sent any notice or anything just found out from a few friends. I have no idea if it's a perm ban or temp. I still plan to send everything out I owe, and when those patches do finally come in, I'll need help finding addresses for everyone who's owed them.

I'm sorry for being a crappy friend and not speaking up about any of my issues, and know I have no valid reason for not taking care of stuff in a timely manner. I know it's easy to do and I should just do it, just my body won't. Hopefully I can get something to help even me out.

Please wish everyone the best and I hope you don't hate me for how I'm acting now.

Your friend,

Dan

Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger.

[MajorCaptSilly]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

I send Dan a message on facebook, asking what's up, and this is his reply



Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger.

He doesn't mention my transaction with him where I paid for 3-5 packs of cigars and he lied to me 3 times about shipping. He did give me the "lost in the mail" story that seems to be his mantra. I've never had a package lost in the mail and I've sent quite a few. I hope he ended up with enough stolen money to buy some furniture for his new house.

MCS

[Emjaysmash]

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly

He doesn't mention my transaction with him where I paid for 3-5 packs of cigars and he lied to me 3 times about shipping. He did give me the "lost in the mail" story that seems to be his mantra. I've never had a package lost in the mail and I've sent quite a few. I hope he ended up with enough stolen money to buy some furniture for his new house.

MCS

HE told me the packages getting were lost in the mail FOUR times... I wish I had known I was not the only one or I would have been less sympathetic and less lenient.

[GreekGodX]

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

HE told me the packages getting were lost in the mail FOUR times... I wish I had known I was not the only one or I would have been less sympathetic and less lenient.

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly

He doesn't mention my transaction with him where I paid for 3-5 packs of cigars and he lied to me 3 times about shipping. He did give me the "lost in the mail" story that seems to be his mantra. I've never had a package lost in the mail and I've sent quite a few. I hope he ended up with enough stolen money to buy some furniture for his new house.

MCS

If anyone was giving Dan a chance after these 2 post then they are nieve. I don't think we can believe a word Dan says. Actions speak louder then words. If packages start popping up then that is a different story. Until then anything he says is just a facade.

[kaisersozei]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

I send Dan a message on facebook, asking what's up, and this is his reply

Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger.

Interesting.

Thanks for sharing, Ferd....

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

I send Dan a message on facebook, asking what's up, and this is his reply



Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger.

No shots fired at you, Ferd. But Dan also claims not to have been able to access the Internet. How does he explain his recent activity on Facebook? I realize he's going thru some difficult times but his stories just don't add up.

[fissure]

Originally Posted by pnoon

No shots fired at you, Ferd. But Dan also claims not to have been able to access the Internet. How does he explain his recent activity on Facebook? I realize he's going thru some difficult times but his stories just don't add up.

I got a response to an email I sent him also, yesterday. He has access to the internet at work, just not this site. And no access at home. Told him that was a poor excuse. If you have business to take care of, go to starbucks, or a library. He called me on my way home from work and said he was packing up boxes at the moment, and had me pm Dabidog to get his address. So we shall see if stuff actually starts arriving. He told me 2/3 of the people in the GB had gotten their stuff already. If they have gotten it, post up.

[Buena Fortuna]

Originally Posted by fissure

I got a response to an email I sent him also, yesterday. He has access to the internet at work, just not this site. And no access at home. Told him that was a poor excuse. If you have business to take care of, go to starbucks, or a library. He called me on my way home from work and said he was packing up boxes at the moment, and had me pm Dabidog to get his address. So we shall see if stuff actually starts arriving. He told me 2/3 of the people in the GB had gotten their stuff already. If they have gotten it, post up.

Every transaction I have had with Dan, and I have had many including the GB in question, has been completed with no issues whatsoever.

[elderboy02]

Originally Posted by fissure

I got a response to an email I sent him also, yesterday. He has access to the internet at work, just not this site. And no access at home. Told him that was a poor excuse. If you have business to take care of, go to starbucks, or a library. He called me on my way home from work and said he was packing up boxes at the moment, and had me pm Dabidog to get his address. So we shall see if stuff actually starts arriving. He told me 2/3 of the people in the GB had gotten their stuff already. If they have gotten it, post up.

Thanks for your hard work Steve.

The no access to the site excuse is absolutely terrible. I got a PM from him on 7/14 where he asked for my address.

I am so tired of his excuses.

[poker]

I call Shenanigans

That sad story is all full of holes.

[kydsid]

Originally Posted by pnoon

No shots fired at you, Ferd. But Dan also claims not to have been able to access the Internet. How does he explain his recent activity on Facebook? I realize he's going thru some difficult times but his stories just don't add up.

Originally Posted by fissure

I got a response to an email I sent him also, yesterday. He has access to the internet at work, just not this site. And no access at home.

Originally Posted by poker

I call Shenanigans

That sad story is all full of holes.

I agree I am a newb here and don't have anything invested in this but that message pegged my BS meter. To sit there and say that CA is blocked but you can get to Facebook? Lol ya right. Who would bother blocking CA but not one of the most popular websites in the world? Then to go on and say that they blocked the proxies, seriously does he even know what he is saying when he writes that? Don't believe it for a minute folks.

A picture speaks a 1000 words for how that message from Dan makes me feel.

To all those affected I feel for your loses both monetarily and in friendships.

I hope you get to see his math skills!

[gettysburgfreak]

I have no idea who this Dan fellow is and I don't care to but all I can say is I hope for everyone's sake that this thing gets taken care of so we as a board can move forward. I truly feel bad for those involved, hopefully this asshole makes good.

[fissure]

Just got an email from the accused.

All packages that had not been sent out have been sent as of last night/this morning. Only ones he hasn't shipped out is 2 to canada and one to the UK. Take it for what its worth, just the messenger. Hopefully this is true and they will all arrive shortly