Walking Dead Season 4

[Victor808]

Ok... caught up on the last two...

Don't know anyone else's take on these, but they were both a bit slow.

(spoilers! don't read if you're behind)

The splinter group episode with Abraham was... ok. I liked the way they really portray him as almost desperately clinging on to the cure (later found out to be a bold faced lie)... and they do a decent job of showing why it's so important to him. I thought they missed a bit on showing what happened to his family... I was able to put it together, but they left it a bit more ambiguous than I'd like (in the comics if I remember correctly it was men from his own group who raped his wife and daughter, who he then had to kill with his bare hands. In this episode it seemed like it was just random guys....)

Last night's episode played out pretty much as expected, no real surprises there. It was a really quiet, subdued episode but I think it worked because it was mainly focusing on two characters who are best when they're quiet. Carol and Daryl are both so workman-like about dispatching zombies, no screaming, no crying... they're like a machine.

1 - good to see that Beth's friend found Carol/Daryl... too bad he was a d$ck about it
2 - now we know how the hospital "recruits" people who they save and keep on to work to pay off their debt... they make their own customers with a swift collision
3 - I'm excited for some terminus-level justice to be exacted on the hospital... next week I guess.

So, I know how things resolve themselves between Abraham and Eugene-the-science guy in the comics... I wonder how they're planning on playing it out in the series. Anyone have any bets? Couple good hits and they're square? A kick in the nuts? Carol style exile for Eugene? Is Rosita going to have to intervene to keep him alive?

[kelmac07]

Another slow episode. Only two more weeks and other than the first episode, this season has been extremely SLOW.

Originally Posted by kelmac07

Another slow episode. Only two more weeks and other than the first episode, this season has been extremely SLOW.

My thought exactly Mac. They blew their wad early with Termius and now we are just coasting to a christmas break...

[Victor808]

The 3rd episode where they dispatched Gareth's group was a reasonably paced episode...

[Victor808]

Yeah, that scene confused me at first as well. I thought the book fell out of carol's backpack, but i guess it was supposed to be darryl's pack and it just fell out when she was handing it to him or something. I hope it's just Darryl coping with his past. Hopefully it doesn't turn him into some sort of sensitive sally... can't lose the most efficient zombie-killing machine around.

I also had a secret hope Carol was just bluffing when she got wheeled in, and she was going to get up and start killing people right and left. But I guess I was wrong. We have to wait for Rick to show up for the real violence to begin.

[Victor808]

That was a.... juicy... episode.

A bit of a filler, setting everything up for next week's season break. But still had some fun action in it.

Definitely award winning "best use of a zombie in a fight" moves by Darryl.

[irratebass]

I thought Darryl was a goner, and then bam Mcgyver style lol

Ok, so where is Gabriel going? Remember the group found him outside.......if he is as scared as he seems wouldn't he just stay in the church??? Idk about that dude.....mayeb he'll meet up with Morgan.

[Victor808]

I think gabriel is more running away from the people he thinks are homicidal maniacs (rick's group... and in all fairness if you hadn't seen anyone for all that time and the first people you meet execute some other people right in front of you, you might be a little apprehensive too)..... I suspect he'll come around. Or they'll just kill him off. He was looking for food when they met him the first time.

[irratebass]

Holy Crap!!!!! Poor Maggie.........What is up with Morgan? Is he sane yet?

[bonjing]

Originally Posted by irratebass

Holy Crap!!!!! Poor Maggie.........What is up with Morgan? Is he sane yet?

I think he is. The whole time I thought he knew whom he was following, but until he saw the map I don't think he knew.

Can someone explain to my little mind what exactly did Beth mean when she said "I get it now" to the crazy officer lady.

[Victor808]

Originally Posted by bonjing

I think he is. The whole time I thought he knew whom he was following, but until he saw the map I don't think he knew.

Can someone explain to my little mind what exactly did Beth mean when she said "I get it now" to the crazy officer lady.

I've been trying to figure that out as well.

My best guess is that it somehow ties into her talk with Dawn about how Dawn always gets someone else to do her dirty work or something....

Either beth "gets it" by realizing she can get someone else to do the work of killing Dawn for her... or Beth "gets it" by realizing that Dawn isn't changing at all, that she's still willing to do cruel things to maintain the appearance of power.

[kelmac07]

Didn't see the whole Beth thing coming...wasted all season working up to save and her and then this?? All in all, was a decent episode though.

[mosesbotbol]

The tension around Beth had been growing. Pretty episode. I had missed a week or two, but on Fox Asia, it's on regular Fox, not FX. The are played the episode last night. What night of the week is it in USA? Fox Asia says say day coverage, so that'd mean it airs in Asia first...

[irratebass]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

The tension around Beth had been growing. Pretty episode. I had missed a week or two, but on Fox Asia, it's on regular Fox, not FX. The are played the episode last night. What night of the week is it in USA? Fox Asia says say day coverage, so that'd mean it airs in Asia first...

It shows on Sundays on AMC in the U.S.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by irratebass

It shows on Sundays on AMC in the U.S.

Ok, so it was first in USA but within 24 hours in Asia.

[Victor808]

I really wish this midseason had ended stronger. I kind of felt like they really didn't accomplish much after that butt-kicking start.

I mean.... the first 3 episodes were strong finishes to the terminus theme ... between carol's rambo moves in episode 1 to Rick's executioner style in episode 3 there was a lot of action and tension.

But then... we had to fiddle around with beth's situation in episode 4, Eugene's big lie in episode 5, Carol and Darryl's big adventure in episode 6 (ok, that one was really good anyway...) and then episode 7 to bring them to a common point so episode 8 could be executed.

With all the buildup to bring it together, I just was hoping for a bit more. Maybe the problem was they never really fleshed out the hospital group much. There weren't enough identifiable characters, no reason to hope for any particular outcome. I didn't wish dawn dead or alive...

[irratebass]

Originally Posted by Victor808

I really wish this midseason had ended stronger. I kind of felt like they really didn't accomplish much after that butt-kicking start.

I mean.... the first 3 episodes were strong finishes to the terminus theme ... between carol's rambo moves in episode 1 to Rick's executioner style in episode 3 there was a lot of action and tension.

But then... we had to fiddle around with beth's situation in episode 4, Eugene's big lie in episode 5, Carol and Darryl's big adventure in episode 6 (ok, that one was really good anyway...) and then episode 7 to bring them to a common point so episode 8 could be executed.

With all the buildup to bring it together, I just was hoping for a bit more. Maybe the problem was they never really fleshed out the hospital group much. There weren't enough identifiable characters, no reason to hope for any particular outcome. I didn't wish dawn dead or alive...

I kinda liked Dawn and thought she could have been swayed to be a better person with Rick's group.

According to Kirkman, some big changes are coming this next season (not sure if he meant the rest of this season or next), but he kind of hinted about Maggie and how she will deal with this, and there is supposedly another foe coming that is supposed to be worse than the governor....he also hinted that they will be out of the Atlanta region soon.

I personally thought it was a good season & I enjoyed the mid-season finale.

[Victor808]

It was good... I don't mean to be a negative nancy. It's still the best thing on tv. I just felt like it started the half-season way stronger than it ended.

If they're gonna follow the comic books then there is going to be a new baddie who is WAAAYYY worse than the gov. We'll see.

[irratebass]

Originally Posted by Victor808

It was good... I don't mean to be a negative nancy. It's still the best thing on tv. I just felt like it started the half-season way stronger than it ended.

If they're gonna follow the comic books then there is going to be a new baddie who is WAAAYYY worse than the gov. We'll see.

I need to re-read the comics, since they weren't following them as much I became uninterested

[OLS]

After watching 7 & 8 back to back last night, I am probably done with this show.
I DO give em credit for not trying the BS cliff-hanger episode thing with episode 8,
but I just think the show itself seems spent. Its not that they don't have the right
to do it the way they wish, but they are NOT compelling me to come back.
That sounds stupid having just said I hate cliff-hangers, but there doesn't seem to be
much to care about going forward. I was hoping that Beth would get comfortable in this
new life on the road and just bust out that bikini she found while out looking for baby
formula, lol. Now the only thing she'll be busting out is maggots. I am glad we have a
new hot girl rolling with the group, and I have liked Abraham since Band of Brothers.
We'll see, I doubt I will abandon it, but its easier and easier each half-season to say
F it.