pistol or cigars? - Page 3

justonemorestick · 01-02-2011, 08:49 AM

Go with either the M&P or the Sig.

neoflex · 01-02-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by justonemorestick

Go with either the M&P or the Sig.

Love my M&P. Solid weapon that is very, very affordable and super reliable. I think when I bought my .40 I payed just a little more than $400 . At the time they were running a rebate for money back and two free mags.
If your looking for a solid deal and have an FFL that won't rake you over the coals check out Budsgunshop.com.

01-02-2011, 10:53 AM

S&w or beretta and cigars

Need both for the zombie apocalypse. All are welcome at my place to hold down then fort. One must bring one or the other for entry.

Devanmc · 01-02-2011, 10:55 AM

i suggest full body searchs for bite marks? both for males and females

captain53 · 01-03-2011, 10:27 AM

Sig P-229 .357 Sig is my favorite but another strong consideration in my book would be the H&K USP 45 - Only with High Capacity Magazines if legal in your state.

I have many pistols and luv the .357 Sig Caliber. For a first pistol owner I don't recommend a Glock but rather something with all the bells and whistles including a positive safety.

You might want to consider a 1911 - 45 ACP if in your budget, not a high capacity but sure a great piece to learn to shoot pistols with and will last you forever.

Nothing wrong with the .40 caliber though I am not a fan of the 9mm unless looking for something small and high capacity.

Bill86 · 01-03-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by captain53

Sig P-229 .357 Sig is my favorite but another strong consideration in my book would be the H&K USP 45 - Only with High Capacity Magazines if legal in your state.

I have many pistols and luv the .357 Sig Caliber. For a first pistol owner I don't recommend a Glock but rather something with all the bells and whistles including a positive safety.

You might want to consider a 1911 - 45 ACP if in your budget, not a high capacity but sure a great piece to learn to shoot pistols with and will last you forever.

Nothing wrong with the .40 caliber though I am not a fan of the 9mm unless looking for something small and high capacity.

As much as I love 1911's they are heavy as piss to carry. Not to mention they only get 8 rounds. You can trade up with a lighter weight and gain rounds in a polymer gun. They just don't make good carry guns if you're a small(er) guy. Not easy to conceal.

357 · 01-03-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

As much as I love 1911's they are heavy as piss to carry. Not to mention they only get 8 rounds. You can trade up with a lighter weight and gain rounds in a polymer gun. They just don't make good carry guns if you're a small(er) guy. Not easy to conceal.

I politely disagree. My 1911 Kimber has an 8 rd mag, but it is carried cocked & locked by design. So, I get 9 rds of .45ACP in a weapon that is only about 1.25 inches wide. For that reason 1911s fit very nicely in "Inside the Waistband" holsters (IWB). The shorter barrel models are even more convenient. Standard is 5 inch, Pro/Officer model is 4.25 inches, and the compact or carry models are 3.5 inches. The frames are offered in blued steel, stainless steel, aluminum alloy, and even polymer. The Kimber compact models are aluminum alloy frame with stainless slides and they weigh in at 25 ounces. The standard and pro sizes have a full size grip and therefore a full 8 rd mag. The compact are usually 1 rd lower capacity.

01-03-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

As much as I love 1911's they are heavy as piss to carry. Not to mention they only get 8 rounds. You can trade up with a lighter weight and gain rounds in a polymer gun. They just don't make good carry guns if you're a small(er) guy. Not easy to conceal.

Who ever said they're difficult for a small guy to conceal? They're quite easy as they are thinner than most polymer pistols.

With a good IWB holster a 1911 can disappear under a t-shirt:

alley00p · 01-03-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan King

Who ever said they're difficult for a small guy to conceal? They're quite easy as they are thinner than most polymer pistols.

With a good IWB holster a 1911 can disappear under a t-shirt:

I agree!! This is very similar to my IWB, and my S&W 915 and HK USP both print a lot more than any of my 1911's.

E.J. · 01-02-2011, 10:59 AM

Sold the only handgun I have ever owned(Ruger P95) when my first son was born. Used that money(+) to pick up a Winston WT3 376 & a Lamson reel. The rod gets far more use....

If you are having a hard time deciding between buying a firearm or cigars, my vote would be to get more cigars.

Sauer Grapes · 01-02-2011, 11:01 AM

Devan,

I say get a gun first. In what state will you be living, and what will you be using the gun for (home protection, carry, recreation, etc.)? That info could affect my recommendations as to which gun.

Ranger_B · 01-02-2011, 12:41 PM

As far as home defense I stick to an AR or Shotgun. You are already familiar with the AR. Shotguns can be found for cheap. As for CCW again trial and error at a shop with a range. Guns are like cigars there is one for everyone just have to see which one you like. And like cigars guns tend to multiply. Just remember to be responsible. Which ever you choose know that you need to keep shooting it to be good with it. Ammo can be expensive so take the whole package into consideration. Carry method, ammo, magazines, holsters, Range fees ect.

Bill86 · 01-02-2011, 02:19 PM

I agree, I got an AR-15 and a Mossberg for home defense. Anyone further then say 15 feet gets the AR. Both locked and loaded in arms reach.

I also agree you'll probably end up wanting multiple guns for CC. My advice would be to get something in the midsize carry end. Not a snub nose or anything but a Sig or a HK compact. The Springfield XD compact models are also good, or so I hear.

Knip23 · 01-02-2011, 03:35 PM

Pistol, Night hawks custom 9 or 45 both great pistols. Also file for concealed weapons permit while on AD it easyer.

Knip.

Devanmc · 01-02-2011, 03:44 PM

another question. A CWP in Alabama is good in Michigan. Would it be smart to get a CCW in Alabama and once i leave have it transfered to Michigan or w.e. because it looks like i have to apply in person and that's not possible while im stationed here.

floydpink · 01-02-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Devanmc

another question. A CWP in Alabama is good in Michigan. Would it be smart to get a CCW in Alabama and once i leave have it transfered to Michigan or w.e. because it looks like i have to apply in person and that's not possible while im stationed here.

Double check the recipricocity (sp?) for the states.

I've had my Florida one for a while and recently found out it is good in around 35 other states.

There should be plenty of info on it with a quick search, but I'm too lazy.

Personally, I love revolvers for reliablity to carry and Mossberg shotguns for home defense and reliability to neutralize any home invasion threats in a hurry.

Tried Glocks but none seemed to fit my frame for carry.

G G · 01-02-2011, 04:12 PM

Not positive but I doubt that you have it "transferred". You will probably have to go through the permitting process there.

LostAbbott · 01-02-2011, 04:15 PM

What Ranger said.

Devanmc · 01-02-2011, 04:20 PM

then id just keep the alabama one till it expires

Devanmc · 01-02-2011, 04:33 PM

was looking at my buddies Alabama CCP. it shows Michigan on the back as a state that acknowledges it.

01-02-2011, 08:49 AM	#1
justonemorestick Kat Krap Kontanment Media Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Warren Location: Las Cruces Posts: 292 Trading: (13)	Re: pistol or cigars? Go with either the M&P or the Sig. __________________ This message was created entirely of recycled electrons, manufactured before 1899 in an effort to prevent global de-electrification.

01-02-2011, 10:53 AM	#3
msayewich Guest Posts: n/a	Re: pistol or cigars? S&w or beretta and cigars Need both for the zombie apocalypse. All are welcome at my place to hold down then fort. One must bring one or the other for entry.

01-02-2011, 10:55 AM	#4
Devanmc Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Devan Location: The Zoo Posts: 1,971 Trading: (40)	Re: pistol or cigars? i suggest full body searchs for bite marks? both for males and females __________________ I spent a lot of my money on booze, cigars, birds and fast cars, the rest I just squandered. -George Best

01-03-2011, 10:27 AM	#5
captain53 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Lake of the Ozarks & Austin, TX Posts: 1,333 Trading: (3)	Re: pistol or cigars? Sig P-229 .357 Sig is my favorite but another strong consideration in my book would be the H&K USP 45 - Only with High Capacity Magazines if legal in your state. I have many pistols and luv the .357 Sig Caliber. For a first pistol owner I don't recommend a Glock but rather something with all the bells and whistles including a positive safety. You might want to consider a 1911 - 45 ACP if in your budget, not a high capacity but sure a great piece to learn to shoot pistols with and will last you forever. Nothing wrong with the .40 caliber though I am not a fan of the 9mm unless looking for something small and high capacity.

01-02-2011, 10:59 AM	#10
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: pistol or cigars? Sold the only handgun I have ever owned(Ruger P95) when my first son was born. Used that money(+) to pick up a Winston WT3 376 & a Lamson reel. The rod gets far more use.... If you are having a hard time deciding between buying a firearm or cigars, my vote would be to get more cigars.

01-02-2011, 11:01 AM	#11
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: pistol or cigars? Devan, I say get a gun first. In what state will you be living, and what will you be using the gun for (home protection, carry, recreation, etc.)? That info could affect my recommendations as to which gun.

01-02-2011, 12:41 PM	#12
Ranger_B Have My Own Room Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Frank Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,321 Trading: (31)	Re: pistol or cigars? As far as home defense I stick to an AR or Shotgun. You are already familiar with the AR. Shotguns can be found for cheap. As for CCW again trial and error at a shop with a range. Guns are like cigars there is one for everyone just have to see which one you like. And like cigars guns tend to multiply. Just remember to be responsible. Which ever you choose know that you need to keep shooting it to be good with it. Ammo can be expensive so take the whole package into consideration. Carry method, ammo, magazines, holsters, Range fees ect.

01-02-2011, 02:19 PM	#13
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: pistol or cigars? I agree, I got an AR-15 and a Mossberg for home defense. Anyone further then say 15 feet gets the AR. Both locked and loaded in arms reach. I also agree you'll probably end up wanting multiple guns for CC. My advice would be to get something in the midsize carry end. Not a snub nose or anything but a Sig or a HK compact. The Springfield XD compact models are also good, or so I hear.

01-02-2011, 03:35 PM	#14
Knip23 Keep It Simple Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Destrey Location: Ft. Polk/ Leesville Posts: 545 Trading: (10)	Re: pistol or cigars? Pistol, Night hawks custom 9 or 45 both great pistols. Also file for concealed weapons permit while on AD it easyer. Knip. __________________ Leave No Cigar unsmoked!

01-02-2011, 03:44 PM	#15
Devanmc Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Devan Location: The Zoo Posts: 1,971 Trading: (40)	Re: pistol or cigars? another question. A CWP in Alabama is good in Michigan. Would it be smart to get a CCW in Alabama and once i leave have it transfered to Michigan or w.e. because it looks like i have to apply in person and that's not possible while im stationed here. __________________ I spent a lot of my money on booze, cigars, birds and fast cars, the rest I just squandered. -George Best

01-02-2011, 04:12 PM	#17
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,748 Trading: (10)	Re: pistol or cigars? Not positive but I doubt that you have it "transferred". You will probably have to go through the permitting process there.

01-02-2011, 04:15 PM	#18
LostAbbott Have My Own Room Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Mychal Location: Seattle Posts: 1,165 Trading: (23)	Re: pistol or cigars? What Ranger said. __________________ Damn I got a lot of smokes I need to try.

01-02-2011, 04:20 PM	#19
Devanmc Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Devan Location: The Zoo Posts: 1,971 Trading: (40)	Re: pistol or cigars? then id just keep the alabama one till it expires __________________ I spent a lot of my money on booze, cigars, birds and fast cars, the rest I just squandered. -George Best

01-02-2011, 04:33 PM	#20
Devanmc Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Devan Location: The Zoo Posts: 1,971 Trading: (40)	Re: pistol or cigars? was looking at my buddies Alabama CCP. it shows Michigan on the back as a state that acknowledges it. __________________ I spent a lot of my money on booze, cigars, birds and fast cars, the rest I just squandered. -George Best