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11-07-2011, 11:04 AM | #301 |
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Rizzle, I doubt you will find one credible sportswriter who will say in print where his cohorts can read it that
Alabama should have won that game. They lined up in huge lines to say it on FRIDAY and SATURDAY morning, but no one said it on Sunday. I love Alabama, except for one day a year. But I do not love LSU so much that I will just say homer-istic things about them to make myself feel good inside. If you had beaten us, even by one, even in regulation, I would have congratulated you, because that's the kind of game it was. Everyone had ample chances to make good on the opportunity in front of them. If you had the team to win by 14, you should have won by 30, because we gave you all the chances in the world. But the measure of a good team is not perfection, but the focus to remain in the game despite your mitakes. Jarrett Lee was good enough for 8-0, but not good enough for 9-0, so he got yanked. He made his mistakes and the rest of his teammates erased his errors for him. The Tide failed to erase the mistakes of their kicker and their coach who put him IN position to fail. Pooch punts would have been the better choice on the last two missed field goals. Moving the ball against the Tide was TOUGH, nearly impossible. Les Miles used his superior balance to shackle the tide with bad field position over and over. Nothing said Saban had to keep going for the big pass or the trick play. You didn't see Les Miles reaching into his kooky bag. --edit--- Personally, I hated the way Miles was forced to play, FAR too conservative for his tastes or mine. But in the end, that's how he won the game. If Saban had even QB sneaked three times and kicked the 3, he might have won the game. But it was only a game. I only wanted to explain my statements, balance in all three phases of the game is a very desirable quality, as is having people to fill in holes. The only place we are thin in 2011 is on the offensive line. Last edited by OLS; 11-07-2011 at 11:12 AM. |
11-07-2011, 11:26 AM | #302 | |
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11-07-2011, 11:29 AM | #303 | |
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11-07-2011, 11:30 AM | #304 |
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Jsnake,
They might need to change the way they do things to play in the SEC, though, I will give you that. The spread is fine for a lot of conferences, but you need meat to compete in the SEC. You will need the ability to grind the ball late in the game like LSU and UA. You play LSU with the spread and they are going to clean your clock. But now that you can recruit Arkansas, Missouri, TN, KY, Illinios, etc, you will FIND the bodies to play SEC football. |
11-07-2011, 11:35 AM | #305 | |
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hitting me with your homerstick. Can you explain gross deficiencies in the kicking game? Can you deny there is no logical way to get a sack in Overtime unless my team is well-rested or yours is exhausted? Can you come up with a reasonable excuse for 101,000 [minus the paltry 3000 tickets you made available to LSU] couldn't WILL a "superior team" to victory at home? I don't want to just pound away with blablabla just because it's what I DO, lol. I want you to accept reality or tell me where I am wrong. Of course you don't HAVE to, your previous response is good enough to prove my point, but I am just not sure how you arrived at your generic, wild claims. |
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11-07-2011, 12:18 PM | #306 |
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And remember, I value my friends more than being right, so I will eventually give you waht you want and shut up,
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Neither one of those teams has a depth advantage over the other. They are about as even as they can possibly be from top to bottom and, no, I'm not forgetting about the 2's either. What, you don't think we rotate players all night long? Whatever dude. And as far as balance, coming into that game Bama had 1834 rushing yards and 1827 passing. LSU had 1512 rushing and 1465 passing. In the game, Bama rushed 31 times for and threw it 29. LSU rushed it 41 times and threw it 17. The numbers now stand with Alabama having 1930 rushing yards, 2026 passing. LSU has 1660 rushing yards, 1556 passing. If those numbers are inferior and cost us the game, so be it. I guess my definiton of inferior differs from yours. Primarily...primarily...the kicking game cost us. There are some other factors as well, but obviously one field goal would have made the difference. Please show me anywhere that I mentioned bad luck as the reason we lost. And if you don't know how ticketing works for home and away games, I can't help you there, bro. Inferior talent and balance. Please. |
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11-07-2011, 12:27 PM | #308 | |
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11-07-2011, 01:24 PM | #309 |
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My comment regarding luck was not pointed at you but at jjirons, who didn't mention luck either. But since you
brought it up, sure, a lot of fans of the Tide might think, it was just the breaks, dumb luck, we shoulda beat LSU. So just because YOU didn't say it, and it was never meant for you to begin with, there are certainly those who WILL. But on to your points, your use of stats was impressive, but they leave out the main stat that was my point. Not that you didn't know what I meant, either, you just ignore it because it throws out 1/3 of your argument. If I meant balance between run and pass, my statement has no merit whatsoever. I am saying that in the three phases of the game, offense, defense and special teams, LSU has better balance, and it is what we used to beat you. Your argument is like the bodybuilder with huge muscles and a tiny dic&. Sure you can attract women, but you can't do anything to please them once you get em home. In terms of run and pass, Alabama beat the hell out of LSU. You had far more big gains through the run, and maybe as many or better yards through the air. But when the game was on the line, OUR balance was better, we had not just capable people to punt and place kick, we had EXCEPTIONAL people. Alabama's kicking game was insufficient to score from the places our defense forced you to attempt from. Again, you did not have to miss my meaning, I laid it out for you, never once even hinting that I meant run/pass. You killed us running and killed us passing. We stiffened in our end, but you made it look easy up until you were turned away. And at that point, Nicky, you had better have recruited a kicker. He didn't. The two teams were extremely even, I happen to think we are deeper, and I'd bet we are. But I also think we are faster and better coached. But that is opinion, well the coaching part was kind of shown in the game, too, but Nick is no slouch. But if you aren't comparing what I am comparing, of course you are going to think I am wrong. Still there is no doubt that LSU has a more balanced team across all three phases of the game. If it were not so there is no way we win. |
11-07-2011, 01:38 PM | #310 |
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I DON'T know how ticketing works for home and away, not at all. I have only been to one SEC game.
But people who DO KNOW about it stated that it was a surprisingly small amount of tickets. Doesn't matter. 100,000 plus didn't help you guys enough to make the difference. And when you say a field goal would have made the difference, I say NO, 4 missed field goals would have made the difference. You can't prove a negative. If you want to be the superior team your fans made you out to be for two weeks at every place anyone would listen, then you have to BEAT LSU. You can't say we were the better team because only one more kick would have given us a tie and two would have meant the win. The game is timed. You have 60 minutes to get it done. What you might have done if you had had an 18 minute 4th quarter or another down in OT is irrelevant. Your coach made his choices, his players made their plays and you need to live with the result. And don't be too mad at me, this is fun for me. I had to listen to the pundits and the botls for weeks go on and on, "fixing that for me" in replies, all the people said LSU was going down. But they didn't, and the WAY they made sure they won exposed what I term a weakness in your team. You and I can have fun, and I hope this IS fun for you, but I am not making this up. We have superior balance through superior special teams. BAMA is awesome, we just did what was necessary to beat em. |
11-07-2011, 01:58 PM | #311 |
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Talking to you is like talking to my 2 year olds. LSU has better special teams than us. Unfortunately for us, it came down to that. Shouldn't have, but did. That's the way it goes sometimes.
But having better special teams, doesn't make you more "balanced", it just gives you an advantage in one of the three phases of the game. Tickets... LSU's allotment was 7000, That's about the average number that SEC teams give/get. I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, other than heresay and I don't operate on heresay. West Virginia gave you 5000. Our stadium is for Bama fans and I'd imagine LSU's stadium is for LSU fans. I'll see if I can dig up what y'all gave us last year, as if it matters, but I'd hate to be all "homeristic" and not debate you with facts, which you seem to not understand anyway. |
11-07-2011, 02:12 PM | #312 | |
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It doesn't matter about the tickets, I said I didn't know and I don't. My point was I thought that your fans would make some kind of difference with the huge differential. Like I said, I saw LSU-Vandy in 1983 and that is my experience in SEC stadiums. My argument, from the two-year old perspective, is that I felt like the two teams were basically even in offense and defense and LSU had a significant edge on special teams....If the teams are even and one has an edge in one phase of the game, that team is more balanced because the other two phases basically cancel each other out. The only way I allow myself to say "significant edge" is because we made all our field goals and Bama missed 4. We consistently punted you guys into your own 10-20 yard line over and over. I hate it for you, too, that the kicking game decided the outcome. But again, from what I hear from Bama fans, you were the better team, so it needn't ever have come down to that. But I will stop badgering you, you can't be swayed by facts or stats and I am not an a$$hole, just a fan of the winner. |
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Best I can find, the SEC mandates at least 5000 tickets be given to the visiting team. I know we have "agreements" with UT and Auburn to provide a bigger number each year, along the lines of 9000.
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11-07-2011, 02:19 PM | #314 | |
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11-07-2011, 02:20 PM | #315 | |
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a game through kicking. You are a super-power, but less balanced than LSU which can score in three ways without much effort. You can score TWO ways without much effort. I am not saying you can't score in the kicking game, I am saying it has to be a chip shot. Nah, I am not an a$$hole, just mis-understood. WHo am I kidding, I am a huge a$$hole, ask anyone who knows me. But I guess I am not TRYING to be one here. |
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11-07-2011, 02:26 PM | #317 |
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And I didn't mention it before, because I was refuting your outrageous claim that LSU was way more balanced, but Matthieu is a punk. Pure punk. So there's that, too.
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11-07-2011, 02:30 PM | #318 |
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Don't mis-understand me, I think Bama and LSU are the two best football teams in the country. I have nothing
but respect for the team that held us SO stymied through 60 minutes that we were lucky to escape with the win. What I mean when I say all this is 1.) I knew we would win and told all of you that weeks ago. 2.) I think that being equally capable in all three phases of the game makes LSU by far the more balanced football team. 3.) Winning the game by 100 or 1 means, by the only yardstick that ever counts in the record books or in the BCS selections for the NCG, that LSU is the top team in the country. Love you guys, but you just didn't do what it took to walk away with the nomenclature No.1 team in the country. WHAT IS SEC football but a bunch of homers bragging about their own team? This time it just happened to be for big, big stakes. Tyrann Mathieu is a superbly skilled football player that PLAYS like a short, unwanted recruit. He runs his mouth far too much to suit me while he is on the field, and he does some really dumb things once every coupla games. But he is just one more reason you guys were beaten. He was there when he needed to be there, knocking down passes, tackling players much bigger than he was in the open field, and making our defense stout enough to throw back the second most talented team in the USA. And he is a punk. But he's OUR punk. |
11-07-2011, 02:36 PM | #319 |
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