Third Annual Fantasy Football for Stakes and the Troops

[Mattso3000]

Got the cigars today! Great selection here, guys.

[chaase321]

Heck yeah Matt, looks like a pretty good take for winning

Congrats again brother, and put those to their firery deaths

[chaase321]

Got my sticks in sent from Shilala Monday...awesome, thanks to Scott and Matt!

Prize for winning consolation (from Scott's personal stash):


Sticks from Matt's take of the winnings for helping out: (sorry, didn't realize one was turned around when I took the pic, viaje platino)


Sticks from Shilala's take of second place winnings for helping out:


Glad I could help out gents and thanks for the great season! Looking forward to next year...NO 3-PEAT!

[chaase321]

Originally Posted by sofaman

The Mailman has come and gone today and still no pass

Did this come on Tuesday? Today? DC #? It was supposed to be sent insured per the rules...hopefully it gets there soon!

[chaase321]

So here is what I have for the final betting balances for what people still owe. This already takes into account what you have paid (if you you let me know)

Mattso3000 owes 40 troops sticks...paid 15, owes 25
Shilala owes 0 troops sticks...paid too many and couldn't lose bets
Sofaman owes 35 troops sticks...included 50 sticks with entry, all paid
Coach Deg owes 20 troops sticks
Jenksanejo owes 15 troops sticks...paid 22 extra with entry, all paid
Chaase321 owes 15 troops sticks...paid to shilala week of 1/1/12
Mkarnold1 owes 15 troops sticks paid 25 with entry, all paid
TDsandbeeradvocate (Travis) owes 0 troops sticks paid
Stephen owes 10 troops sticks paid 14 extra sticks with entry, all paid
Jkim05 owes 0 troops sticks paid

Please post a DC when these are sent to Scott (shilala). Also let us know if you need Scott's address.


Looks like we are just waiting on Matt and Coach for the rest of the troops sticks to go to Scott. I figure there is at least 400 based on all the extra sticks people threw in. Way to go guys! Great year for the troops!

[shilala]

That's a good looking pile of smokes, Cole. You're set for a little bit.

I tried like hell to lose some bets there at the end. Between that and nearly winning out after an awful start, I definitely had the kiss of luck.

Matt and I will continue to pwn this league as per the rules we set that we didn't show the rest of you guys. It works out great. It's especially fun to watch the squirming from the top.

Last but not least, I'd like to kick Jeremy in his nuts for holding up the pass this long and being a dick. I still love him, but he's putting a serious strain on our relationship. No wonder he never gets laid.

[chaase321]

Originally Posted by shilala

Matt and I will continue to pwn this league as per the rules we set that we didn't show the rest of you guys. It works out great. It's especially fun to watch the squirming from the top.

Last but not least, I'd like to kick Jeremy in his nuts for holding up the pass this long and being a dick. I still love him, but he's putting a serious strain on our relationship. No wonder he never gets laid.

Scott and Matt...you sneaky bastiges

And that Scott, that is the funniest passive aggressive post I have read on CA yet

[sofaman]

I got the pass today man what a box of joy Here are my puts and takes.

[sofaman]

Let me know if this is ok

Takes:
Cohiba Robusto
RACC
Monty #4
Tat Goast
Tat ?

Puts
Comacho Liberty 2012
Viaje TNT
Opus Perfection X
Oliva V Maduro 12
JJ Maduro 08
Viaje C-4
La Arora Corojo preferito
Padron 26 Mad #35
PLPC
R&YJ Milli flur

[shilala]

Holee sh1t, brother. Yeah, that's way more than good.
That Tat is the T.A.A.
I'm guessing the unbanded one you put is the TNT?

[chaase321]

yeah, it looks like you should be taking a few more from there! Great exchanges like this make the pass that much better!

[shilala]

I know. He's making me look bad, the punk.

[shilala]

I worked on the pass today.
Thank You to whoever included the 95 QDO Panatella and the pair of 11 PLpc's for me. I can't remember anyone threatening to send them, and it was an awesome surprise!!!

I'll list my puts and takes and get Cole all squared away in a minute, it'll take me awhile to type all that stuff.

[Mattso3000]

Good to see the pass moving again!

[shilala]

Smokes I retrieved from my initial seeding...
CC
2- La Flor de Cano Preferido
2 - 00 Vegueros Seaone
2 - 10 Quintero Brevas
1 11 HDM Du Gourmet
1 - 11 SC El Principe
1 - 10 VR Famosos
2 - 02 LGC MdO #3
1 - 10 Fonseca Cadetes
1 - 11 Upmann pc
1 - 11 Cohiba Panatella
1 - 06 Punch Margarita
1 - 11 Trini Reyes (list says Stephen took it, but it's one I seeded and was still there)
NC
1 - 08 AVO Maduro
1 - 10 Airbender
1 - UZI
1 - 08 Old Henry Maduro

I took...
2 very dark PLpc's, unmarked
10 Opus
La Aurora Corojo
PAM #35
Opus FF

I put...
CAO America
Diamond Crown Robusto #5
06 Oliva Grand Maduro
Bolivar Canada Excclusivo
Robaina Canada Exclusivo

So I seeded 51, retrieved 22, took 6 and put 5. I'll donate the other 29 cigars I seeded to the pass to make up for my extra take and lack of my 2 extra smokes, if that's cool with everyone.
On second thought, nevermind that.
I just added to my puts...
1 - 09 Illusione Nosostros
1 - 2011 Ramon Allones Edicion Limitada
1 - 11 RASS
1 - 11 Party Short
That should do.

[shilala]

Cole, I don't know who I'm sending the pass to, or if we even have enough participants to send it around again. There's no sense in sending it if we don't have at least 5 or 6 guys, I don't think. Not enough turnover to make it worthwhile.
If we choose against sending it, we can start it up again at any time. Maybe send it around for the draft, when guys come to camp, then start back up during preseason?

Between now and next year I think we should come together as a league and publish our own rules booklet, such as most money leagues do. As our pass evolves, and our prizes get larger, we really do have a big investment in our league. Some hard rules involving the timely movement of the pass are going to be necessary, we discussed a fine of troop cigars. It sounded like a great idea and was very fair. Great incentive to keep the pass moving and if it's not, the troops benefit.
We should probably standardize our scoring, as well. We can discuss all sorts of things in the offseason. I'm going to hope and pray that Cole will continue to share Commish duties, and get him Commish access at Yahoo next year. That doesn't really mean anything, the Commish does nothing in our league except set the draft and send emails.

I expect Cole and I will brainstorm most everything and then put the items to the league for a vote, if necessary. Hopefully we can draft rules from what we've always done. We can also spell out the pass rules in a little flyer rather than try to dig through the thread for all the info.
If anyone wants to be involved in working with Cole and I on these sorts of things, just let us know. (Sorry for drafting you, Cole. )
It'd be nice to have as many guys involved as possible, but mind ya, it'll be nothing dramatic. Certainly nothing to feel the need to concern yourselves with unless you'll enjoy it.

[Mattso3000]

I would be willing to help in any way needed. I would suggest not letting me write the rules booklet unless you want a 40 page fantasy football manifesto

Also, still in for the duration on the pass.

[Mattso3000]

One suggested rule change for next year: Quarterback scoring makes it necessary to have one of the top few QBs in order to do well and make it so one injury can put a team down for the count easy. The point per completion seems excessive and 10 yards/ point is a lot as well. Suggestion:

QB Scoring:
1 point every 25 yards passing
6 points for passing TD

I don't know if yahoo will let you do it, but it can be fun to do tiered yardage points as well. Something like:

0-100 yds 1 pt/25 yds
101-200 yds 1 pt/ 20 yds
201+ yds 1 pt/ 10 yds

This will take quite a few points away but will also keep the QB scoring more in line with other positions.

[shilala]

Good stuff, Matt. I'd like to get it brought around to standard ppr league scoring, whatever it might be. Your qb idea is perfect. It works toward all the new running qb's in the league, too.

[sofaman]

I like that idea also matt!!!