Lancero love - Page 3

icehog3 · 10-02-2019, 11:49 PM

Thanks for the review, Mark. Glad they have at least one in the line you can still enjoy.

oldforge · 12-02-2019, 07:52 PM

These lanceros look interesting:

https://www.cigar.com/p/southern-dra...980/#p-2023979

4WheelVFR · 12-02-2019, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oldforge

These lanceros look interesting:

https://www.cigar.com/p/southern-dra...980/#p-2023979

Not a bad price point either.

borndead1 · 12-09-2019, 09:35 PM

Leaf by Oscar maduro lancero (7 x 38).

Always thought these were a gimmick cigar (wrapped in a tobacco leaf instead of cellophane). But a BOTL told me a while back that they were actually really good, so I grabbed a fiver from the Famous auction site.

Nice wrapper, well-rolled. Typical medium-bodied maduro flavors with a very noticeable anise flavor on the finish. Decent burn with only a few minor corrections. Not much nuance in the flavor.

A decent cigar, but nothing I would buy again.

oldforge · 02-26-2020, 10:40 AM

These are 6.5 x 40 and called panatelas found here:

https://www.cigar.com/p/caldwell-90-...igars/2023042/

The panatelas are seconds of the La Barba Reds.

These are very good--virtually identical with the La Barba Red firsts imho.

Just try some--you can thank me later.

longknocker · 09-08-2020, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by oldforge

These are 6.5 x 40 and called panatelas found here:

https://www.cigar.com/p/caldwell-90-...igars/2023042/

The panatelas are seconds of the La Barba Reds.

These are very good--virtually identical with the La Barba Red firsts imho.

Just try some--you can thank me later.

Site Says No Longer Available.

NCRadioMan · 02-26-2020, 03:05 PM

I've mention them before but if you want a lancero with some age, with a great price, check out Crafted by Casa Fernandez at JR's. Been getting them for about a year and ALL bundles have had wonderful, dark, yellow cello.

https://www.jrcigars.com/item/crafte...ro/CBYCFL.html

borndead1 · 04-18-2020, 07:02 PM

PE "Farm Rolled" lancero (7.5" x 38)

I've tried a few of the other sizes in this line and they have been good, but not great. But when I saw they had come out with lanceros, I had to snag a bundle.

I was disappointed to find that these are short filler cigars. The flavor is actually pretty good, but they burn fast and are kinda squishy. They probably use the scraps from the other sizes to make these.

The Farm-Rolled lancero will be a one-time purchase.

borndead1 · 05-02-2020, 01:53 PM

Illusione Holy Lance Candela (7.5 X 40)

It's been...I'd say close to 10 years since I smoked a candela wrap cigar. Got this one in a lancero trade I did on C-Bid.

This is honestly one hell of a cigar. I was expecting a strong grassy flavor. It is present, but the complexity of the blend keeps the grassiness in the background. First half of the cigar is pretty complex, with some mild spice and a surprising flavor of unsweetened cocoa that comes and goes. Second half, I'm getting a distinct floral flavor through the nose and on the finish. The aroma coming from the foot is really nice. Mild side of medium "strength".

This cigar surprised me. I can honestly see a box purchase happening.

borndead1 · 07-09-2020, 10:05 PM

Muestra de Saka #NLMTHA lancero (7 x 38)

Got this one in a lancero/lonsdale trade on C-Bid.

Not much flavor at first, a woodsy finish. About 1" in, a nasty chemical aftertaste comes in. This is a bit comical to me, since the only other Muestra de Saka cigar I've tried had the same issue. I pitched this one pretty quick.

EDIT: I just looked up this cigar. $120+ for a box of 7? HAHAHAHA muthaf*kka please...

icehog3 · 07-10-2020, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by borndead1

Muestra de Saka #NLMTHA lancero (7 x 38)

Got this one in a lancero/lonsdale trade on C-Bid.

Not much flavor at first, a woodsy finish. About 1" in, a nasty chemical aftertaste comes in. This is a bit comical to me, since the only other Muestra de Saka cigar I've tried had the same issue. I pitched this one pretty quick.

EDIT: I just looked up this cigar. $120+ for a box of 7? HAHAHAHA muthaf*kka please...

Those Saka cigars ain't cheap, Mark. I liked the Umbagog and a couple others that were gifted to me on another forum. Haven't had the Muestra, and sounds like I am glad?

NCRadioMan · 07-12-2020, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borndead1

Muestra de Saka #NLMTHA lancero (7 x 38)

Got this one in a lancero/lonsdale trade on C-Bid.

Not much flavor at first, a woodsy finish. About 1" in, a nasty chemical aftertaste comes in. This is a bit comical to me, since the only other Muestra de Saka cigar I've tried had the same issue. I pitched this one pretty quick.

EDIT: I just looked up this cigar. $120+ for a box of 7? HAHAHAHA muthaf*kka please...

You have bad luck brudda. That sux. I've had at least a dozen and they've been fantastic.

Snook · 07-13-2020, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borndead1

Muestra de Saka #NLMTHA lancero (7 x 38)

Got this one in a lancero/lonsdale trade on C-Bid.

Not much flavor at first, a woodsy finish. About 1" in, a nasty chemical aftertaste comes in. This is a bit comical to me, since the only other Muestra de Saka cigar I've tried had the same issue. I pitched this one pretty quick.

EDIT: I just looked up this cigar. $120+ for a box of 7? HAHAHAHA muthaf*kka please...

I'm not surprised at this. Steve Saka has said it himself that he's not a fan of lanceros. But then he makes a lancero to please all those people asking him to do so (supposedly). The name of the cigar says it all. I like most of Saka's stuff, but I'll stay away from this one.

longknocker · 09-08-2020, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by borndead1

I've always liked lanceros, and it recently dawned on me that I rarely buy/smoke them. So I've been buying and smoking quite a few lanceros. So I'm gonna smoke a few lanceros today, and post short reviews in this thread.

First up is Crafted by Casa Fernandez (7.5" x 40). I had never heard of this line, but added a bundle of 10 to an order from Serious Cigars a while back. No exaggeration, these are probably the best cigar I've smoked so far this year, including CCs. Bold but smooth, good draw/burn, lots of subtle flavor changes, no harshness or ammonia flavor even at the nub. Halfway through my second one, I ordered 4 more bundles.

Just Ordered A Bundle. Hope They're As Good As You Say, Mark!

Willem2 · 09-08-2020, 01:26 PM

Love them, always looping for them hen i’m at a store. But they are hard to find

4WheelVFR · 10-08-2020, 09:29 PM

Tonight I tried a Balmoral Anejo FT Lancero and was underwhelmed. It looked promising at first. Great appearance and construction, perfect draw, good smoke production, even burn......flavor fell flat though. It was on the verge of being very good at times, but just couldn't get there. I wouldn't purchase it again based off of that one smoke, but it was pleasant enough to take me through an episode and a half of Top Gear. I'll try the Oscuro version next and see if it's any better.

4WheelVFR · 10-09-2020, 09:56 PM

Now this was the cigar that last night's Lancero FT was trying to be. Very nice cigar. Again, it's hard to form an opinion from just one cigar, but based on this one, it's box worthy. Certainly stronger and much more flavorful, nice smoke production, nice construction and appearance. Balmoral Oscuro FT lancero is definitely worth a try.

Update....apparently they only released 500 boxes in the US. Bummer.

borndead1 · 10-14-2020, 09:33 PM

Thanks for keeping this thread going, guys.

Murcielago lancero (7.5 x 38)

The Murcielago line has come and gone several times over the years. I believe the first generation were made by Pepin. This latest version are made by AJ Fernandez. I've smoked through several 5 packs of toros, which are pretty good and can be had on C-Bid for as little as $11, but I nabbed a fiver of these lanceros from Cigar Auctioneer.

Box-pressed, dark maduro wrapper. The cigar is a bit light in the hand, but the draw is surprisingly not loose.

Interesting flavors at first. I was expecting the typical maduro flavors of coffee/cocoa/etc. but the first inch or so has an herbal and earthy flavor.

Toward the middle, the more typical maduro-like flavors start to come through. The draw has tightened a bit, which tells me that I need to move the rest of these to my low humidity humidor for a while. The draw really closes up and the flavor starts getting sour in the last 1/3.

Gonna store these in a low humidty box for a few months and revisit. Definite promise, though.

4WheelVFR · 10-15-2020, 12:01 AM

Hmmm. I was eyeballing those just the other day. Might be worth a look.

4WheelVFR · 10-24-2020, 09:12 PM

Last night I smoked a My Father La Gran Oferta Lancero and a My Father La Promesa Lancero. The Gran Oferta was pretty good, but fell short of what I figured I'd get from My Father cigars. Nice even burn, plenty of smoke, and a decent enough flavor. The construction was a little spongy in places and looked a little rough for something from My Father. Good cigar though.
The La Promesa was a little better. Similar to the Oferta but the construction and appearance was noticeably nicer. Flavor was just a little better as well.
Both were worth the investment of a fiver imo, based off of my first impression, but I won't be looking for more yet.

10-02-2019, 11:49 PM	#1
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 72,380 Trading: (60)	Re: Lancero love Thanks for the review, Mark. Glad they have at least one in the line you can still enjoy. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

12-02-2019, 07:52 PM	#2
oldforge Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Porcupine Quillage, CT Posts: 250 Trading: (0)	Re: Lancero love These lanceros look interesting: https://www.cigar.com/p/southern-dra...980/#p-2023979

12-09-2019, 09:35 PM	#4
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,395 Trading: (7)	Re: Lancero love Leaf by Oscar maduro lancero (7 x 38). Always thought these were a gimmick cigar (wrapped in a tobacco leaf instead of cellophane). But a BOTL told me a while back that they were actually really good, so I grabbed a fiver from the Famous auction site. Nice wrapper, well-rolled. Typical medium-bodied maduro flavors with a very noticeable anise flavor on the finish. Decent burn with only a few minor corrections. Not much nuance in the flavor. A decent cigar, but nothing I would buy again. __________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

02-26-2020, 10:40 AM	#5
oldforge Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Porcupine Quillage, CT Posts: 250 Trading: (0)	Re: Lancero love These are 6.5 x 40 and called panatelas found here: https://www.cigar.com/p/caldwell-90-...igars/2023042/ The panatelas are seconds of the La Barba Reds. These are very good--virtually identical with the La Barba Red firsts imho. Just try some--you can thank me later.

02-26-2020, 03:05 PM	#7
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,291 Trading: (67)	Re: Lancero love I've mention them before but if you want a lancero with some age, with a great price, check out Crafted by Casa Fernandez at JR's. Been getting them for about a year and ALL bundles have had wonderful, dark, yellow cello. https://www.jrcigars.com/item/crafte...ro/CBYCFL.html

04-18-2020, 07:02 PM	#8
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,395 Trading: (7)	Re: Lancero love PE "Farm Rolled" lancero (7.5" x 38) I've tried a few of the other sizes in this line and they have been good, but not great. But when I saw they had come out with lanceros, I had to snag a bundle. I was disappointed to find that these are short filler cigars. The flavor is actually pretty good, but they burn fast and are kinda squishy. They probably use the scraps from the other sizes to make these. The Farm-Rolled lancero will be a one-time purchase. __________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

05-02-2020, 01:53 PM	#9
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,395 Trading: (7)	Re: Lancero love Illusione Holy Lance Candela (7.5 X 40) It's been...I'd say close to 10 years since I smoked a candela wrap cigar. Got this one in a lancero trade I did on C-Bid. This is honestly one hell of a cigar. I was expecting a strong grassy flavor. It is present, but the complexity of the blend keeps the grassiness in the background. First half of the cigar is pretty complex, with some mild spice and a surprising flavor of unsweetened cocoa that comes and goes. Second half, I'm getting a distinct floral flavor through the nose and on the finish. The aroma coming from the foot is really nice. Mild side of medium "strength". This cigar surprised me. I can honestly see a box purchase happening. __________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

07-09-2020, 10:05 PM	#10
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,395 Trading: (7)	Re: Lancero love Muestra de Saka #NLMTHA lancero (7 x 38) Got this one in a lancero/lonsdale trade on C-Bid. Not much flavor at first, a woodsy finish. About 1" in, a nasty chemical aftertaste comes in. This is a bit comical to me, since the only other Muestra de Saka cigar I've tried had the same issue. I pitched this one pretty quick. EDIT: I just looked up this cigar. $120+ for a box of 7? HAHAHAHA muthaf*kka please... __________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

09-08-2020, 01:26 PM	#15
Willem2 One of the Dutch Join Date: Nov 2011 First Name: Wiilem Location: Hattemerbroek, the Netherlands Posts: 144 Trading: (0)	Re: Lancero love Love them, always looping for them hen i’m at a store. But they are hard to find

10-08-2020, 09:29 PM	#16
4WheelVFR Wild'n since '87 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ray Location: Little Egypt Posts: 1,345 Trading: (36)	Re: Lancero love Tonight I tried a Balmoral Anejo FT Lancero and was underwhelmed. It looked promising at first. Great appearance and construction, perfect draw, good smoke production, even burn......flavor fell flat though. It was on the verge of being very good at times, but just couldn't get there. I wouldn't purchase it again based off of that one smoke, but it was pleasant enough to take me through an episode and a half of Top Gear. I'll try the Oscuro version next and see if it's any better.

10-09-2020, 09:56 PM	#17
4WheelVFR Wild'n since '87 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ray Location: Little Egypt Posts: 1,345 Trading: (36)	Re: Lancero love Now this was the cigar that last night's Lancero FT was trying to be. Very nice cigar. Again, it's hard to form an opinion from just one cigar, but based on this one, it's box worthy. Certainly stronger and much more flavorful, nice smoke production, nice construction and appearance. Balmoral Oscuro FT lancero is definitely worth a try. Update....apparently they only released 500 boxes in the US. Bummer. Last edited by 4WheelVFR; 10-09-2020 at 10:06 PM.

10-14-2020, 09:33 PM	#18
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,395 Trading: (7)	Re: Lancero love Thanks for keeping this thread going, guys. Murcielago lancero (7.5 x 38) The Murcielago line has come and gone several times over the years. I believe the first generation were made by Pepin. This latest version are made by AJ Fernandez. I've smoked through several 5 packs of toros, which are pretty good and can be had on C-Bid for as little as $11, but I nabbed a fiver of these lanceros from Cigar Auctioneer. Box-pressed, dark maduro wrapper. The cigar is a bit light in the hand, but the draw is surprisingly not loose. Interesting flavors at first. I was expecting the typical maduro flavors of coffee/cocoa/etc. but the first inch or so has an herbal and earthy flavor. Toward the middle, the more typical maduro-like flavors start to come through. The draw has tightened a bit, which tells me that I need to move the rest of these to my low humidity humidor for a while. The draw really closes up and the flavor starts getting sour in the last 1/3. Gonna store these in a low humidty box for a few months and revisit. Definite promise, though. __________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

10-15-2020, 12:01 AM	#19
4WheelVFR Wild'n since '87 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ray Location: Little Egypt Posts: 1,345 Trading: (36)	Re: Lancero love Hmmm. I was eyeballing those just the other day. Might be worth a look.

10-24-2020, 09:12 PM	#20
4WheelVFR Wild'n since '87 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ray Location: Little Egypt Posts: 1,345 Trading: (36)	Re: Lancero love Last night I smoked a My Father La Gran Oferta Lancero and a My Father La Promesa Lancero. The Gran Oferta was pretty good, but fell short of what I figured I'd get from My Father cigars. Nice even burn, plenty of smoke, and a decent enough flavor. The construction was a little spongy in places and looked a little rough for something from My Father. Good cigar though. The La Promesa was a little better. Similar to the Oferta but the construction and appearance was noticeably nicer. Flavor was just a little better as well. Both were worth the investment of a fiver imo, based off of my first impression, but I won't be looking for more yet.