stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet - Page 18

03-16-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958

youve never apologized before, even when most people DISAGREE with you!

I'm not really sorry, I was just being cordial.

borndead1 · 03-16-2009, 09:06 AM

This thread is STILL going?

I am tempted to turn it political so it gets shut down.

HK3- · 03-16-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by borndead1

This thread is STILL going?

I am tempted to turn it political so it gets shut down.

What would O'bama do?

03-16-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HK3-

What would O'bama do?

Their is no apostrophe in Obama, just FYI.

HK3- · 03-16-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

Their is no apostrophe in Obama, just FYI.

Sorry. I mean Osama.

Da Klugs · 03-16-2009, 09:26 AM

If you go back to the original post.... there could be validity in it.

Say for example a cigar Mfg like Torano who makes cigars for others is commissioned to make a "line" for one of the online guys. Figure the price may come into play there. Lesser value materials used because of the price point demanded. Always wondered what the relationship in the wholesale price was ... Labor vs material costs.

Conversely, the concept of "brand" is pretty important to most manufacturers. Their name is on the darn things. To purposely make a product that varies in quality by where you buy it does not make much sense and is hard to believe from a business owners perspective. Different cigar name band etc sure, but not the identical cigar.

Most cigars are not purchased directly from the manufacturers but through distributors. These distributors are typically the ones setting price points and determining physically which cigars go where.

Maybe the OP just prefers the flavors over humidification provides in most B&M's vs cigars from a home humidor.

taltos · 03-16-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

Their is no apostrophe in Obama, just FYI.

Maybe there should be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xkw8ip43Vk

landhoney · 03-16-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by borndead1

I am tempted to turn it political so it gets shut down.

Now that is thinking outside the box.

03-11-2009, 10:01 PM

This one hell of an interesting thread. Well thought out. Local B&M has a $10 cutting fee if you bring your own but if you buy a couple and dont waive your sticks around, they usually tolerate you. Never had a real problem with internet buys. Most smaller stores can't buy the quantity that would make this premise of different qaulity to B&M's versus on line. I have had poorly kept sticks from smaller stores that don't seem to really know how to properly store cigars. One owner told me they move so fast he doesnt worry about storage much. Hmmmm.

I agree that a quality shop makes all the difference. I love going into Holts when I am in Philly. Qaulity stuff, well kept great atmosphere. That being said, when I travel, I always find the local shop and always buy a few sticks.

One point. When I buy on line I always try and let them sit in my coolidor for 30 days. I have been astonished by the difference in letting them settle out. Maybe that is part of the difference you have found.

Great thread.

03-12-2009, 08:28 AM

Gotta link for your lounge? I for one would love to see where you and the guys hang out.

And when are some of the guys gonna sign up? Would be great to have um!

03-12-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ahc4353

Gotta link for your lounge? I for one would love to see where you and the guys hang out.

And when are some of the guys gonna sign up? Would be great to have um!

www.zarkacigarlounge.com

Check it out very cool.

14holestogie · 03-12-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Legend

www.zarkacigarlounge.com

Check it out very cool.

A lounge that's on the internet. Now I'm really confused.

03-12-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie

A lounge that's on the internet. Now I'm really confused.

chippewastud79 · 03-12-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie

A lounge that's on the internet. Now I'm really confused.

Perhaps this means that the cigars they are buying from internet sites and the ones they are purchasing from their internet B+M are in fact the same lesser quality cigars because they save the good stuff for the small B+M's

Bear · 03-13-2009, 11:16 AM

You're quite fortunate to have that kind of a place available to you. Nothing like that here in the Toronto area, that's for sure...

dunng · 03-16-2009, 07:20 AM

icehog3 · 03-16-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dunng

dunng · 03-16-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Hmm... I don't remember this scene form Office Space...

md4958 · 03-16-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

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Originally Posted by dunng

Hmm... I don't remember this scene form Office Space...

how do you think the horses head got into that guys bed in the Godfather??

WildBlueSooner · 03-16-2009, 11:27 AM

Lets get back to cigars and dresses

03-16-2009, 09:06 AM	#2
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,376 Trading: (7)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet This thread is STILL going? I am tempted to turn it political so it gets shut down.

03-16-2009, 09:26 AM	#6
Da Klugs Juan of 11 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Right here Posts: 4,222 Trading: (8)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet If you go back to the original post.... there could be validity in it. Say for example a cigar Mfg like Torano who makes cigars for others is commissioned to make a "line" for one of the online guys. Figure the price may come into play there. Lesser value materials used because of the price point demanded. Always wondered what the relationship in the wholesale price was ... Labor vs material costs. Conversely, the concept of "brand" is pretty important to most manufacturers. Their name is on the darn things. To purposely make a product that varies in quality by where you buy it does not make much sense and is hard to believe from a business owners perspective. Different cigar name band etc sure, but not the identical cigar. Most cigars are not purchased directly from the manufacturers but through distributors. These distributors are typically the ones setting price points and determining physically which cigars go where. Maybe the OP just prefers the flavors over humidification provides in most B&M's vs cigars from a home humidor. __________________ Communities Not Commodities. Punctuation challenged, but trying. Proud winner of phase 1 of the Weight loss contest

03-11-2009, 10:01 PM	#9
Cigarman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet This one hell of an interesting thread. Well thought out. Local B&M has a $10 cutting fee if you bring your own but if you buy a couple and dont waive your sticks around, they usually tolerate you. Never had a real problem with internet buys. Most smaller stores can't buy the quantity that would make this premise of different qaulity to B&M's versus on line. I have had poorly kept sticks from smaller stores that don't seem to really know how to properly store cigars. One owner told me they move so fast he doesnt worry about storage much. Hmmmm. I agree that a quality shop makes all the difference. I love going into Holts when I am in Philly. Qaulity stuff, well kept great atmosphere. That being said, when I travel, I always find the local shop and always buy a few sticks. One point. When I buy on line I always try and let them sit in my coolidor for 30 days. I have been astonished by the difference in letting them settle out. Maybe that is part of the difference you have found. Great thread.

03-12-2009, 08:28 AM	#10
ahc4353 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet Gotta link for your lounge? I for one would love to see where you and the guys hang out. And when are some of the guys gonna sign up? Would be great to have um!

03-13-2009, 11:16 AM	#15
Bear Just an other FNG Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Marc Location: Ajax, Ontario. Posts: 393 Trading: (4)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet You're quite fortunate to have that kind of a place available to you. Nothing like that here in the Toronto area, that's for sure... __________________ Canadian Roll Call

03-16-2009, 07:20 AM	#16
dunng MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: MassHole Posts: 4,719 Trading: (59)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet __________________ MassHole Banter

03-16-2009, 11:27 AM	#20
WildBlueSooner I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: James Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,322 Trading: (19)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet Lets get back to cigars and dresses __________________ "To dilute the will to win is to destroy the purpose of the game. There is no substitute for victory"-- Douglas MacArthur