Tatuaje Anarchy Announcement - Page 3

neoflex · 11-16-2010, 11:18 AM

I'm not saying to stop making the LEs all together but hell space them out a bit. IMHO, I just think he is going to the well to often is all and it could hurt him more than help if everyone starts feeling the way I do. I would love to acquire each and every one but my monthly budget can only be stretched so far. Wouldn't seem so brutal had he spaced each release out a couple months.
I think he is making plenty of money on the sales of these sticks otherwise he would not be doing it IMHO. He is in the business to make money so if he wasn't making money I doubt he would put the time and effort in to coming up with the blends to be released on a limited basis for all these shops. Figure it costs him at the most $4 to make a cigar and that is a high guesstimate. Now he charges roughly $12 a stick times 200 boxes at 24 sticks per. That's a pretty decent profit for a short run in my opinion.

LostAbbott · 11-16-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by neoflex

I'm not saying to stop making the LEs all together but hell space them out a bit. IMHO, I just think he is going to the well to often is all and it could hurt him more than help if everyone starts feeling the way I do. I would love to acquire each and every one but my monthly budget can only be stretched so far. Wouldn't seem so brutal had he spaced each release out a couple months.
I think he is making plenty of money on the sales of these sticks otherwise he would not be doing it IMHO. He is in the business to make money so if he wasn't making money I doubt he would put the time and effort in to coming up with the blends to be released on a limited basis for all these shops. Figure it costs him at the most $4 to make a cigar and that is a high guesstimate. Now he charges roughly $12 a stick times 200 boxes at 24 sticks per. That's a pretty decent profit for a short run in my opinion.

You are kidding right? Even with your math that is only $38,400, factor in marketing, his time, incidentals, and you get an even lower number than that. These sticks are pure an simple a marketing expense that he is maybe breaking even on. Sure the store makes money and He makes money as that store buys more of his regular production and word gets out and what not, but there is no way these LE's are where he is making money.

E.J. · 11-16-2010, 11:13 AM

I am not sure I understand people pitching the hate over the limited release stuff......

As I posted in the Barclay Rex thread... These appear to be a nice thing for B&M that get the releases and it is fun to try to try to grab a box or 5er.

In the end, there are plenty of cigars out there that I enjoy and can smoke if I can't get hold of something else.... For me it just seems odd to get fired up about cigars and what a manufacturer chooses to do marketing wise....

Hell, I'd love to be buying boxes of RASS, BoliPC & BF's, Monty 2's...Party4's....but I'm not on here railing against our government embargo.... I just buy what I can buy and enjoy what I can smoke....

Not sure that is a great analogy....but it's what came to mind....

elderboy02 · 11-16-2010, 11:29 AM

OK. I definitely want these!

11-16-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

OK. I definitely want these!

Oh Shut up Dan!

And John... calm down bud... I know what you mean though... I personally
feel that Pete is publicly airing out his vendetta w/ another guy that got
the whole limited release concept from him in the "first place"!

On another forum Pete mentioned that he really doesn't make hardly anything
when he does the limited runs, but its more of a fun thing for him...

elderboy02 · 11-16-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by whodeeni

... I personally
feel that Pete is publicly airing out his vendetta w/ another guy that got
the whole limited release concept from him in the "first place"!

Yep. I think a lot of people realize that Pete and Andre Farkas (Viaje) don't like each other.

neoflex · 11-16-2010, 12:05 PM

Just wanted to point out that I am not really angry at all. Just giving my point of view. Life is too short to get angry over rolled up leaves and someone elses business. Hell I have enough BS in my life to get pissed over so I don't need anymore.

I guess in a long winded way I was just saying the LE's would be more fun spread out over a longer period of time and not overlapping each other. I know I am not the only one that feels this way but it seems because I am saying something negative about Pete that people are not happy with my opinion as there is a lot of Tatuaje love on this board. I love his smokes just as much as the next guy but figured I would share my opinion on the subject on the whole Tat LE topic. Still never got to find out if these will be regular production or a LE.

I never knew that Pete and Andre had a beef with each other. Would love to hear the back story on that one but that can be saved for another thread as I think I pulled the wheels of this topic enough already.

Now a great LE for me would be to bring the damn Frank blend back and I will be gitty like a school girl all over again .

And I will be 100% honest. These Anarchys look great and I will be doing my best to be sure to have available funds ready in case I can score 5 or 10.

hscmit · 11-16-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by neoflex

Just wanted to point out that I am not really angry at all. Just giving my point of view. Life is too short to get angry over rolled up leaves and someone elses business. Hell I have enough BS in my life to get pissed over so I don;t need anymore.

I guess in a long winded way I was just saying the LE's would be more fun spread out over a longer period of time and not overlapping each other. I know I am not the only one that feels this way but it seems because I am saying something negative about Pete that people are not happy with my opinion. I love his smokes just as much as the next guy but figured I would share my opinion on the subject on the whole Tat LE topic. Still never got to find out if these will be regular production or a LE.

I never knew that Pete and Andre had a beef with each other. Would love to hear the back story on that one but that can be saved for another thread as I think I pulled the wheels of this topic enough already.

I understood what you were saying. I still smoke a bunch of regular production tats, but havent bought any LE stuff in a couple years. I would love to but just cant justify it.

hscmit · 11-16-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Yep. I think a lot of people realize that Pete and Andre Farkas (Viaje) don't like each other.

I dont know anything about farkas, but would like to find out more about their dislike of each other. Care to share?

elderboy02 · 11-16-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hscmit

I dont know anything about farkas, but would like to find out more about their dislike of each other. Care to share?

I don't know any details. I just know various people on a lot of the boards I am on said there is no friendship between them.

acarr · 11-16-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Yep. I think a lot of people realize that Pete and Andre Farkas (Viaje) don't like each other.

So Pete is mad at Andre for taking an idea that he took from the Commies?

11-16-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by acarr

So Pete is mad at Andre for taking an idea that he took from the Commies?

MiamiE · 11-16-2010, 12:03 PM

15 count box for $149.85 per my twitter.

11-16-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiE

15 count box for $149.85 per my twitter.

Hmmm could have sworn i remember Pete saying these would be more of a value
line in the 6.50 - 8.00 range...

MiamiE · 11-16-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by whodeeni

Hmmm could have sworn i remember Pete saying these would be more of a value
line in the 6.50 - 8.00 range...

That was straight from my Twitter page.

https://twitter.com/tatuajeanarchy/s...07323582500864

Bill86 · 11-16-2010, 01:37 PM

Really more tat limiteds.....thank god because 9 in 4 days just wasn't enough.

neoflex · 11-16-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

Really more tat limiteds.....thank god because 9 in 4 days just wasn't enough.

Doctorossi · 11-16-2010, 02:07 PM

I don't understand why people can get so rabid for an untried cigar over these announcements that only give us a packaging "concept" and a few photos. Obviously, being a Tat, it has good potential to be tasty, but all this announcement has given us so far is a Tat in new clothes. At least with something like the Verite concept, there
were details about what the tobacco itself was aiming to do. All we know about this is, "Tatuaje in a different box!" I'll get excited about this release when I've seen a review of the actual product that's over the moon about it. Of course, by then, this 'limited release' will be pre-sold-out.

688sonarmen · 11-16-2010, 02:16 PM

Yeah, there are plenty of regular line that will know your socks off for almost any pallet, brown label, red label, lariqueza, reserva, ect. Lets not fan the flames here there are plenty of other venues for that type of thing.
BTW any word on how many will be in production and where to buy?

KillerCelt · 11-17-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I'll get excited about this release when I've seen a review of the actual product that's over the moon about it. Of course, by then, this 'limited release' will be pre-sold-out.

My feelings exactly.

11-16-2010, 11:18 AM	#1
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: Tatuaje Anarchy Announcement I'm not saying to stop making the LEs all together but hell space them out a bit. IMHO, I just think he is going to the well to often is all and it could hurt him more than help if everyone starts feeling the way I do. I would love to acquire each and every one but my monthly budget can only be stretched so far. Wouldn't seem so brutal had he spaced each release out a couple months. I think he is making plenty of money on the sales of these sticks otherwise he would not be doing it IMHO. He is in the business to make money so if he wasn't making money I doubt he would put the time and effort in to coming up with the blends to be released on a limited basis for all these shops. Figure it costs him at the most $4 to make a cigar and that is a high guesstimate. Now he charges roughly $12 a stick times 200 boxes at 24 sticks per. That's a pretty decent profit for a short run in my opinion. __________________

11-16-2010, 11:13 AM	#3
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: Tatuaje Anarchy Announcement I am not sure I understand people pitching the hate over the limited release stuff...... As I posted in the Barclay Rex thread... These appear to be a nice thing for B&M that get the releases and it is fun to try to try to grab a box or 5er. In the end, there are plenty of cigars out there that I enjoy and can smoke if I can't get hold of something else.... For me it just seems odd to get fired up about cigars and what a manufacturer chooses to do marketing wise.... Hell, I'd love to be buying boxes of RASS, BoliPC & BF's, Monty 2's...Party4's....but I'm not on here railing against our government embargo.... I just buy what I can buy and enjoy what I can smoke.... Not sure that is a great analogy....but it's what came to mind....

11-16-2010, 11:29 AM	#4
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,517 Trading: (133)	Re: Tatuaje Anarchy Announcement OK. I definitely want these!

11-16-2010, 12:05 PM	#7
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: Tatuaje Anarchy Announcement Just wanted to point out that I am not really angry at all. Just giving my point of view. Life is too short to get angry over rolled up leaves and someone elses business. Hell I have enough BS in my life to get pissed over so I don't need anymore. I guess in a long winded way I was just saying the LE's would be more fun spread out over a longer period of time and not overlapping each other. I know I am not the only one that feels this way but it seems because I am saying something negative about Pete that people are not happy with my opinion as there is a lot of Tatuaje love on this board. I love his smokes just as much as the next guy but figured I would share my opinion on the subject on the whole Tat LE topic. Still never got to find out if these will be regular production or a LE. I never knew that Pete and Andre had a beef with each other. Would love to hear the back story on that one but that can be saved for another thread as I think I pulled the wheels of this topic enough already. Now a great LE for me would be to bring the damn Frank blend back and I will be gitty like a school girl all over again . And I will be 100% honest. These Anarchys look great and I will be doing my best to be sure to have available funds ready in case I can score 5 or 10. __________________

11-16-2010, 12:03 PM	#13
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: Tatuaje Anarchy Announcement 15 count box for $149.85 per my twitter.

11-16-2010, 01:37 PM	#16
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Tatuaje Anarchy Announcement Really more tat limiteds.....thank god because 9 in 4 days just wasn't enough.

11-16-2010, 02:07 PM	#18
Doctorossi Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 1,684 Trading: (8)	Re: Tatuaje Anarchy Announcement I don't understand why people can get so rabid for an untried cigar over these announcements that only give us a packaging "concept" and a few photos. Obviously, being a Tat, it has good potential to be tasty, but all this announcement has given us so far is a Tat in new clothes. At least with something like the Verite concept, there were details about what the tobacco itself was aiming to do. All we know about this is, "Tatuaje in a different box!" I'll get excited about this release when I've seen a review of the actual product that's over the moon about it. Of course, by then, this 'limited release' will be pre-sold-out. __________________ Marvin Shanken is a terrific guy... for me to poop on!

11-16-2010, 02:16 PM	#19
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: Tatuaje Anarchy Announcement Yeah, there are plenty of regular line that will know your socks off for almost any pallet, brown label, red label, lariqueza, reserva, ect. Lets not fan the flames here there are plenty of other venues for that type of thing. BTW any word on how many will be in production and where to buy?