Is this a beetle? - Page 2

WildBlueSooner · 02-24-2009, 08:57 PM

Beetles= Satan!

ucla695 · 02-24-2009, 09:15 PM

Do the tap test over a white piece of paper and see if any beetle dung falls out.

02-24-2009, 09:26 PM

You don't need to do a tap test in my opionion it is beetle for sure, I would be willing to bet that little white sluggy looking thing is the critter (in larval stage) himself.

FREEZE Look here for some mediocre directions http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919 on freezing

neoflex · 02-24-2009, 09:48 PM

Have any shots pulled back some? I am guessing it may be beetles too. If it's a shipment that just came in I would send the entire package back. Yes, you can freeze them but in a household freezer you are not guaranteed to eliminate the problem. Why introduce the problem to your humi if you do not need to, I would send it back and let the vendor know it's because of beetles and be sure to tell them that the hole is not plume.

Sauer Grapes · 02-24-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox

You don't need to do a tap test in my opionion it is beetle for sure, I would be willing to bet that little white sluggy looking thing is the critter (in larval stage) himself.

100% correct.

I'd send them back.

What kind of cigar was it? What vendor?

s15driftking · 02-24-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauer Grapes

What kind of cigar was it? What vendor?

i second this!

Silound · 02-24-2009, 11:47 PM

I've seen a lot of beetles at work before, and you sir have a beetle larva munching away on your cigar. That's what the little off-white colored thing is at the end of the hole in the picture.

The channel where he chewed clearly shows small round particulate matter, which is consistent with larva excretions.

Freeze the lot, or better yet get them replaced.

karmaz00 · 02-24-2009, 09:52 PM

sorry it looks like one

Tio Gato · 02-25-2009, 05:14 AM

Yup. You got the cooties.

Mikepd · 02-25-2009, 08:07 AM

That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.

hotreds · 02-25-2009, 10:08 AM

I, too, would like to know where you got these and what marca it is.

Scottw · 02-25-2009, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikepd

That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.

Holy crap, that's one heck on an explanation.

02-25-2009, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikepd

That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.

100% agree. Great, now I've got to go inspect my entire stash or else not sleep.

Teeznutz · 02-24-2009, 11:52 PM

Sorry to see this.....Good Luck!

Genetic Defect · 02-24-2009, 11:54 PM

no.

shilala · 02-25-2009, 10:22 AM

I'd bet my stash on it.
Mikepd's explanation is perfect. If you're outdoorsy at all, grew up in the woods, raised animals, kept bees, or lived on a farm, you get real used to what boring larvae tracks look like.

themoneycollector · 02-25-2009, 11:08 AM

Yep, you got a beetle problem

Pat1075 · 02-25-2009, 11:19 AM

I'm voting yes

michael88n · 02-25-2009, 01:38 PM

Damn. That gives me the Heebie Jeebies.

02-24-2009, 08:57 PM	#1
WildBlueSooner I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: James Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,322 Trading: (19)	Re: Is this a beetle? Beetles= Satan!

02-24-2009, 09:15 PM	#2
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Is this a beetle? Do the tap test over a white piece of paper and see if any beetle dung falls out.

02-24-2009, 09:26 PM	#3
SilverFox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is this a beetle? You don't need to do a tap test in my opionion it is beetle for sure, I would be willing to bet that little white sluggy looking thing is the critter (in larval stage) himself. FREEZE Look here for some mediocre directions http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919 on freezing

02-24-2009, 09:48 PM	#4
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: Is this a beetle? Have any shots pulled back some? I am guessing it may be beetles too. If it's a shipment that just came in I would send the entire package back. Yes, you can freeze them but in a household freezer you are not guaranteed to eliminate the problem. Why introduce the problem to your humi if you do not need to, I would send it back and let the vendor know it's because of beetles and be sure to tell them that the hole is not plume. __________________

02-24-2009, 11:47 PM	#7
Silound ex-CS Swamp Gorilla Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere in a swamp, south of sanity Posts: 802 Trading: (15)	Re: Is this a beetle? I've seen a lot of beetles at work before, and you sir have a beetle larva munching away on your cigar. That's what the little off-white colored thing is at the end of the hole in the picture. The channel where he chewed clearly shows small round particulate matter, which is consistent with larva excretions. Freeze the lot, or better yet get them replaced. __________________ Back in black, and better than ever! You can't keep a good gorilla down! LSU Geaux Tigers!

02-24-2009, 09:52 PM	#8
karmaz00 Habanos Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Jason Location: victoria Posts: 1,855 Trading: (1)	Re: Is this a beetle? sorry it looks like one __________________ Habanos Collector Since 2003

02-25-2009, 05:14 AM	#9
Tio Gato Uncle Kitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Casa Grande, AZ Posts: 2,079 Trading: (11)	Re: Is this a beetle? Yup. You got the cooties. __________________ "You stink like cigars Uncle Kitty!" Said my Boo age 3. "Kid, take care of your family and the hell with anyone else" My Grandpa Bubba.

02-25-2009, 08:07 AM	#10
Mikepd I Miss Pnoon Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Michael Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 583 Trading: (10)	Re: Is this a beetle? That is what is referred to as a track. It is caused by beetles moving from side to side after partially burrowing out of the cigar. Also it appears in your picture to show two semi-matured larva. One is to the far right of that track, that whiteish looking line, the other being right in the middle of the track whaere it bends, it appears to be deeper inside the cigar and is also a pale white color. If the beetles have hatched and matured enough to this stage in these cigars, it more than likely means the cigars were exposed to poor conditions a while ago. I would bet that freezing is useless now as the beetles have all ready hatched in other cigars and have started munching the insides of other cigars. If you can return them i would do that, otherwise i'd likely smoke one and see how it is. You may be interested in taking another cigar that doesnt show damage yet and cut it open to find out beetle stages in there.

02-25-2009, 10:08 AM	#11
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,674 Trading: (63)	Re: Is this a beetle? I, too, would like to know where you got these and what marca it is. __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

02-24-2009, 11:52 PM	#14
Teeznutz Habanos Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Troy Location: Socal Posts: 143 Trading: (1)	Re: Is this a beetle? Sorry to see this.....Good Luck!

02-24-2009, 11:54 PM	#15
Genetic Defect difetosso Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Perry Location: An elevator Posts: 5,204 Trading: (5)	Re: Is this a beetle? no. __________________ I'm an outcast riding into town alone I got wanderlust branded deeper than the bone

02-25-2009, 10:22 AM	#16
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Is this a beetle? I'd bet my stash on it. Mikepd's explanation is perfect. If you're outdoorsy at all, grew up in the woods, raised animals, kept bees, or lived on a farm, you get real used to what boring larvae tracks look like. __________________

02-25-2009, 11:08 AM	#17
themoneycollector Nicotiana Tabacum Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hill AFB, UT Posts: 1,258 Trading: (108)	Re: Is this a beetle? Yep, you got a beetle problem

02-25-2009, 11:19 AM	#18
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Re: Is this a beetle? I'm voting yes

02-25-2009, 01:38 PM	#19
michael88n Finger Sniffer Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Michael Location: PNW Posts: 166 Trading: (3)	Re: Is this a beetle? Damn. That gives me the Heebie Jeebies.