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Old 09-08-2010, 01:28 PM   #1
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Just don't bother if he will make you pay up front. It's very hard to prove these kind of things. I don't know why anyone would go through the trouble, but I suppose if I ever felt I was graded unfairly, I would want to fight it too.

It's pretty sad in this world how much impact a piece of paper can have on any business/association. It seems that when a customer has an issue places like to brush it off, when the customer comes back they get brushed off again, but when a letter headed paper comes thru the mailbox, suddenly its a big enough deal to be taken seriously. It's morally wrong in my opinion.

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If youi've got him again next semester, it may be more beneficial to sit down with him now and find out where your "shortcomings" are, so you can "improve" them for next semester.
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If youi've got him again next semester, it may be more beneficial to sit down with him now and find out where your "shortcomings" are, so you can "improve" them for next semester.
100% Talk to them, they are human and when you show interest or a willingness to change they will tend to look at you different. College isn't the only place you will have to work with people you don't like to get by ... some of us get to call them Boss.
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100% Talk to them, they are human and when you show interest or a willingness to change they will tend to look at you different. College isn't the only place you will have to work with people you don't like to get by ... some of us get to call them Boss.


They have egos too, and like it if you're presenting yourself as someone who is looking for help.
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I've found that saying ANYTHING to the teachers puts you closer and closer to the firing squad. Teachers aren't very nice people and love to make your life a living hell. Especially if you have him/her next semester.....just suck it up or try to switch teachers.
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:41 PM   #7
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I've found that saying ANYTHING to the teachers puts you closer and closer to the firing squad. Teachers aren't very nice people and love to make your life a living hell. Especially if you have him/her next semester.....just suck it up or try to switch teachers.
Really? That makes as much sense as saying "All kids named Bill are a$$holes"

fwiw, my daughter is a teacher and is very nice
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Noooo can't be true, Peter I just read that all teachers aren't very nice people and love making life a living hell. That means your daughter who is a teacher is not very nice. And if she is nice then she isn't a teacher
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Ahhhh. I've been stabbed. The pain.



My wife teaches part time at the college level. She has kids that don't show up all semester, miss assignments and tests, Google/copy all their homework, and then complain to the Dean when they fail. It ain't always easy on the other side either.
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Ahhhh. I've been stabbed. The pain.



My wife teaches part time at the college level. She has kids that don't show up all semester, miss assignments and tests, Google/copy all their homework, and then complain to the Dean when they fail. It ain't always easy on the other side either.
Nothing personal, Bill.

Besides, you're no kid.
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Nothing personal, Bill.

Besides, you're no kid.
Stabbed, followed by a low blow.

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I think there is a distinct difference between a "college" (say a Community college), and a "University". If the professor in question has a Ph.D. a large majority of them are as described in this thread. In my department of 14 Professors, I have only dealt with 2 of them who are understanding and supportive of the student.

It sucks, but that's kinda how it is. Stroke their ego to get your way.
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Old 09-08-2010, 06:53 PM   #15
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I think there is a distinct difference between a "college" (say a Community college), and a "University". If the professor in question has a Ph.D. a large majority of them are as described in this thread. In my department of 14 Professors, I have only dealt with 2 of them who are understanding and supportive of the student.

It sucks, but that's kinda how it is. Stroke their ego to get your way.
Mark (markem) stated that he was a college professor. Both Dokk (The Professor) and Jeff (The Dakotan) on this board are professors. My father is also a professor. I think I would reword that statement. I know plenty, plenty, plenty of people who hold Ph.D.s and are great people. During my entire experience at my university, I only met a slight few who had major egos.


BTW, I'm a teacher too, and I am mean! It is my job to make my student's life a living hell. (That's a joke.)
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:37 PM   #16
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Kevin (Casadooley):

I mispoke. I did bring my concern to his attention early in the quarter and he told me that I Was wrong. Flat out, right to my face, that I Was wrong.

Two weeks ago I got pissed off again by a grade I received on two assignments, and I brought it to his attention. While I was in mid sentence, he turned away from me, and went on to the next student. And it was so blatantly obvious, that even the next student said something to me about how rude it was.

So that is wen I went and spoke with his boss. I apologize for that oversight. I did not jump the gun on him, I tried talking to him twice, and got no where, so that is when I decided to take it further. I meant more along the lines of, didn't say anything to his boss until recently.
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Deep breaths gang. Let's try to stay focused on helping Drew with his specific problem. Broad generalizations are not going to help.

Good luck Drew. Hope you are able to get this resolved before the start of term.
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An advanced education is part of your life experience. While a grievance may get you temporary satisfaction, it may also dig you a deeper hole. This will not be the only time in your life where you will feel you were under appreciated or mistreated. Sooner or later you will come across a boss, supervisor or other superior who may exhibit the same behavior.

You will NEVER be able to convince him he is wrong. But by talking with him about his expectations you may find a way to succeed in the future. Look forward and not back, the next class is more important. A single low grade will only show as an anomaly if you pass the next one with flying colors.
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Kevin (Casadooley):

I mispoke. I did bring my concern to his attention early in the quarter and he told me that I Was wrong. Flat out, right to my face, that I Was wrong.

Two weeks ago I got pissed off again by a grade I received on two assignments, and I brought it to his attention. While I was in mid sentence, he turned away from me, and went on to the next student. And it was so blatantly obvious, that even the next student said something to me about how rude it was.

So that is wen I went and spoke with his boss. I apologize for that oversight. I did not jump the gun on him, I tried talking to him twice, and got no where, so that is when I decided to take it further. I meant more along the lines of, didn't say anything to his boss until recently.
Now I have a better understanding of the situation Drew, thanks. I don't know that I can add to any of the good advise given here except to say good luck and remember that your diploma won't show your GPA on it, but it will let others know how hard you worked to get it.
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Well said Bobarian.

And I know what you mean about feeling unappreciated and mistreated. I got laid off from my job last March. A job that I thought I would stay at for a long time.

So I know how it feels, and I know that I need to keep my eye on the big picture. I will talk to the prof's boss tomorrow and see if I can actually talk to the prof one on one. Well, he's deaf, and I don't know the language well enough to have a sit down discussion so we will have to have an interpreter present. But you get the idea.

Thanks to everyone who gave their time and feedback. I hope this will work out in the long run for me. One bad grade won't kill me, but it hurts on the inside (as lame as that sounds).
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