Question for people in constant high heat weather.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by markem

why would you put a small, aquatic animal in a cage, James? I had heard that lawyers were mean and cruel, but ...

Yes, James is a lawyer. But why would you drag him into it when it is Julian torturing the cute little otters?

[markem]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Yes, James is a lawyer. But why would you drag him into it when it is Julian torturing the cute little otters?

Julian is too nice to say such things, but James isn't. Ergo ...

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by markem

Julian is too nice to say such things, but James isn't. Ergo ...

But James doesn't mmbl(z).

[oooo35980]

I live in Hawaii, keep my humidor indoors and not in direct sunlight, temp stays around 70. Are you asking how to keep something cool when it's hot outside? Or how best to keep cigars cool when your AC isn't working? Or how to keep the temp constant? Or just want to know how people store their cigars?

Maybe your question just isn't specific enough?

[smitty81]

Ok, I get it. I'm being annoying with my questions. Sorry, just trying to learn a little.

I will just leave it at that.

Later.

[JenksAnejo]

There are many websites including this one that have a library of information.
If you are trying to learn all you can type cigar 101 into google and there you have it. All the information you need to learn all of the basics.

[ApexAZ]

Hey Josh, living in Phoenix has me contemplating a strategy for keeping my cigars cooler in the summer months as well. I think for me I plan to get some big reusable freezer block things to rotate in my Coleman every week or so because my house never drops below 78. This coupled with freezing will hopefully prevent any beetle issues. Eventually I want to get a wine cooler.

As for the 20 questions, I can relate. I tend to ask first search later as well. I just try to keep it in check and be as humble as possible when I do it. Personally I haven't had much luck using the search feature, but it's probably user error.

Also for me I think it has a lot to do with the social aspect of opening a dialog with people. I like the interaction. Again though, it can lead to frustration for others when they feel like they are answering the same questions over and over. Even though these topics are new and exciting to you and I, it's old hat to the veterans of the forum. Michael gave some good advice about limiting it.

Anyways, I just wanted to tell you that I can relate.

[ktblunden]

Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Hey Josh, living in Phoenix has me contemplating a strategy for keeping my cigars cooler in the summer months as well. I think for me I plan to get some big reusable freezer block things to rotate in my Coleman every week or so because my house never drops below 78. This coupled with freezing will hopefully prevent any beetle issues. Eventually I want to get a wine cooler.

If you're freezing all your cigars for at least 3 days prior to putting them in your humi you should never have a beetle issue, regardless of how high your ambient temperature gets.

[ApexAZ]

Originally Posted by ktblunden

If you're freezing all your cigars for at least 3 days prior to putting them in your humi you should never have a beetle issue, regardless of how high your ambient temperature gets.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Hey Josh, living in Phoenix has me contemplating a strategy for keeping my cigars cooler in the summer months as well. I think for me I plan to get some big reusable freezer block things to rotate in my Coleman every week or so because my house never drops below 78. This coupled with freezing will hopefully prevent any beetle issues. Eventually I want to get a wine cooler.

This will cause condensation problems in your coolerdor.

[smitty81]

Originally Posted by T.G

This will cause condensation problems in your coolerdor.

Would it matter if the sticks were in a zip lock bag?

[jluck]

So is this another beetle thread? Or are you curious about keeping cigars in hot climates?

Valid question, I'm not trying to be a d!ck.

[smitty81]

Originally Posted by jluck

So is this another beetle thread? Or are you curious about keeping cigars in hot climates?

Keeping cigars in a warmer climate is what I'm asking about.

Guess it could be related to beetles though.

If you freeze them to start with you dont have to worry how warm they get afterwords?

[T.G]

Originally Posted by smitty81

Would it matter if the sticks were in a zip lock bag?

It depends on how close they are to the reusable ice blocks, but yes it might cause condensation issues in the bags too.

[smitty81]

Originally Posted by T.G

It depends on how close they are to the reusable ice blocks, but yes it might cause condensation issues in the bags too.

ok, thanks for your input.

[ApexAZ]

Originally Posted by T.G

This will cause condensation problems in your coolerdor.

I thought that too and will maybe store it in a gallon ziplock and/or possibly wrapped in a dish towel.

[kydsid]

Originally Posted by ApexAZ

I thought that too and will maybe store it in a gallon ziplock and/or possibly wrapped in a dish towel.

This dish towel will just become the breading ground for mold. That ice pack is a novel idea but all I see is trouble. Only way condensation isn't a problem is if you have air movement and a way to absorb it over time and release back into the environment. Otherwise you just fight a constant battle of removing it yourself with paper towels or the like then adding water to beads or other humidification device when you go low.

[CigarNut]

Originally Posted by kydsid

This dish towel will just become the breading ground for mold. That ice pack is a novel idea but all I see is trouble. Only way condensation isn't a problem is if you have air movement and a way to absorb it over time and release back into the environment. Otherwise you just fight a constant battle of removing it yourself with paper towels or the like then adding water to beads or other humidification device when you go low.

Unless you are freezing your cigars keep them away from ice -- you are only making problems for yourself otherwise.

[ArgusP2]

Originally Posted by kydsid

Okay first off the only real answer for anyone in high heat environments to keep the cigars cool themselves is a wineador etc that has its own cooling device. You can search my threads and find a write up I did while living in a climate that even at night did not go below 80 degrees.


Second, sorry to burst people bubbles, but freezing is not a 100% pest exclusion method. You are kidding yourself about any pest to ever think that any pest control method is 100% effective. However thourough and below 0 freezing is highly effective on all insects and given the prescence of tobacco beetles is already low you are further lowering the chances to as low as possible to make an outbreak inprobable but it will always be possible.



EDIT: Here is the thread I was speaking of: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19819

Originally Posted by kydsid

This dish towel will just become the breading ground for mold. That ice pack is a novel idea but all I see is trouble. Only way condensation isn't a problem is if you have air movement and a way to absorb it over time and release back into the environment. Otherwise you just fight a constant battle of removing it yourself with paper towels or the like then adding water to beads or other humidification device when you go low.

Jason knows!

[icehog3]

http://www.google.com/#q=keeping+hum...w=1024&bih=685