Gardeners in the Asylum - Page 24

shilala · 04-10-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Django

And which tobacco variety would that be?

I have Perique, Havanah 2000, San Andreas MX, and my own open-pollinated variety that comes from those 3 strains.

Steve · 04-03-2014, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hammondc

Got the beds set up and filled. Where do you guys get your plants/seeds? Any difference between big box stores and a local place?

Depends on if you are looking at Hybrid/GMO seeds or heirloom/non-GMO. Most of the local places around us, including the BBSs have hybrids and GMO'd seeds. We found a couple of small shops that have heirloom/non-GMO and have ordered from SeedsNow.com. Due to Holly's medical situation, we decided to go with as much non-GMO as possible and are sticking to organic.

YMMV

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shilala · 04-03-2014, 11:04 AM

I gathered up all our seeds and soil and have had a date with Miss Weeze all week to plant, but we just can't seem to get it done.
I can skate for another week, but we really need to get them in by this weekend. I still need to go pick up some herb seeds, too.

Steve · 04-04-2014, 08:38 AM

First fruit of the season!

shilala · 04-05-2014, 07:46 AM

Geeze. It'll be July before we get a tomato. I don't count green ones, though. Rookie!!!

Steve · 04-05-2014, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

Geeze. It'll be July before we get a tomato. I don't count green ones, though. Rookie!!!

It'll be red before long...

357 · 04-07-2014, 10:22 AM

Trying to root some apple tree cuttings so I can clone my favorite trees. Anyone ever use rooting powder?

8zeros · 04-07-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 357

Trying to root some apple tree cuttings so I can clone my favorite trees. Anyone ever use rooting powder?

Cuttings are usually grafted. I've rooted some before but they died later from something.
Have to add that I didn't have too good of luck grafting either.

357 · 04-07-2014, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 8zeros

Cuttings are usually grafted. I've rooted some before but they died later from something.
Have to add that I didn't have too good of luck grafting either.

I figure I have nothing to lose. I trimmed some larger branches that were shading the middle or too vertical, and used water sprouts/suckers off the downed limbs. I'm probably going to be moving this summer and I want to take all three varieties with me. I have a Jonathan, Macintosh, and a Golden Delicious in my yard now.

I do want to try my hand at grafting too. I was going to wait a bit longer to give it a try. The snow here just finally melted so I'm just getting things moving.

shilala · 04-10-2014, 11:16 AM

Cuttings are actually grafted on rootstock that's bred for specific areas.
What generally happens is that the roots from the grafted cultivar aren't strong enough, can't withstand the moisture, soil makeup, climate, etc.
It's much akin to trying to introduce a Largemouth Bass to the Atlantic Ocean.

What you CAN get away with, Mikey, is to graft your branch onto pretty much any kind of apple tree you already have growing. You can graft any number of species onto the same tree. The most I ever had was five types of apples on one tree.

Here's another thing...
Your apple trees you see grafted on root stock aren't normally grafted onto apple rootstock. In my area back home we used sickle pear rootstock because it was a wild rootstock that thrived in that area. Those trees grew anywhere, but were worthless for root production.

So there's a lot of things you can do that'll work, Mikey. You just picked the one thing that's doomed.

Ya know, if you can grow that thing out in a container with perfect soil and water, and the roots don't freeze and die this winter, you could take all kinds of grafts off it and put on other established trees.

I have a book here somewhere, if I can find it I'll give you a holler.

shilala · 04-10-2014, 11:18 AM

Last, but not least...
Steve!!! Tomato update!!!

Steve · 04-10-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

Last, but not least...
Steve!!! Tomato update!!!

Got three starters on the vine last I checked. I'll check tonight when I get home, it was pretty dark last night by the time I got home to check.

I also am starting to see the beginnings of peppers on two of my plants. Replanted some oregano and dill seeds to replace what I think were old, dead seeds, but I think the squires got to them before anything could happen. The thyme that we planted at the same time is sprouting though.

I know this is old hat to you veterans out there, but I'm stoked that this is actually working!

Steve · 04-10-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

Last, but not least...
Steve!!! Tomato update!!!

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Originally Posted by Steve

Got three starters on the vine last I checked. I'll check tonight when I get home, it was pretty dark last night by the time I got home to check.

I also am starting to see the beginnings of peppers on two of my plants. Replanted some oregano and dill seeds to replace what I think were old, dead seeds, but I think the squires got to them before anything could happen. The thyme that we planted at the same time is sprouting though.

I know this is old hat to you veterans out there, but I'm stoked that this is actually working!

My wife's ears must have been burning...She just sent me a picture of one of the plants

Still pretty green, but I bet it won't be long until we start seeing some red deliciousness!

Chainsaw13 · 04-12-2014, 04:52 PM

Spent the afternoon rebuilding one of my planting beds. Used cedar this time, instead of regular wood. Hopefully it'll last longer. Going to buy some 5/4x6 planks to cap the tops off. Only 3, maybe 4 more to do.

shilala · 04-14-2014, 06:24 PM

Hey guys, this is a really old book about growing tobacco.
It's a direct link to a free pdf from the University of California.
It's pretty cool. There's few pictures, but it's still worth downloading just to see them
Hope you guys dig it!!!

Steve · 04-22-2014, 06:00 AM

Some truth right here...

"Gardening Rule: When weeding, the best way to make sure you are removing a weed and not a valuable plant is to pull on it. If it comes out of the ground easily, it is a valuable plant."

8lug · 04-25-2014, 06:13 AM

Garlic is on its way

Chainsaw13 · 04-25-2014, 06:25 AM

Nice Mark. My garlic looks about the same size, although half as many planted.

Tomorrow i'm getting 1.5yds of dirt to fill my newly rebuilt planters. A compost/top soil mix. I'll mix in a bit of organic fertilizer I have, then wait for the weather to get warm enough before I put in my plants. They're callilng for high 30's this weekend as the low temps. I've put too much effort into growing these from seeds to risk losing them to frost.

8lug · 04-25-2014, 06:53 AM

Thanks Bob,
They're calling for frost here tonight too, I've got 26 plum tomato plants in the house under lights waiting for the darn weather to finally break up here.

The second bed behind the garlic has spinach and lettuce in it. They're just starting to sprout.

Does anybody have any Kentucky wonder pole bean seeds they like to share. I can't find them anywhere locally.

Chainsaw13 · 04-25-2014, 07:00 AM

26 tomato plants? Hot damn, you must like tomatoes.

The most I've planted before was 7. That was about 5 too many. I was giving them away to anyone that would take them.

I'm thinking I'll plant my onions at least this weekend. Maybe my collards, broccoli and cauliflower too. They should be ok with the colder temps.

04-03-2014, 11:04 AM	#3
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum I gathered up all our seeds and soil and have had a date with Miss Weeze all week to plant, but we just can't seem to get it done. I can skate for another week, but we really need to get them in by this weekend. I still need to go pick up some herb seeds, too. __________________

04-04-2014, 08:38 AM	#4
Steve Dad Jokester Supreme Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Steve Location: 17 R 435648 3354895 Posts: 7,715 Trading: (6)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum First fruit of the season! __________________ ...So don't sit upon the shoreline and say you're satisfied, Choose to chance the rapids and dare to dance that tide

04-05-2014, 07:46 AM	#5
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Geeze. It'll be July before we get a tomato. I don't count green ones, though. Rookie!!! __________________

04-07-2014, 10:22 AM	#7
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Trying to root some apple tree cuttings so I can clone my favorite trees. Anyone ever use rooting powder? __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

04-10-2014, 11:16 AM	#10
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Cuttings are actually grafted on rootstock that's bred for specific areas. What generally happens is that the roots from the grafted cultivar aren't strong enough, can't withstand the moisture, soil makeup, climate, etc. It's much akin to trying to introduce a Largemouth Bass to the Atlantic Ocean. What you CAN get away with, Mikey, is to graft your branch onto pretty much any kind of apple tree you already have growing. You can graft any number of species onto the same tree. The most I ever had was five types of apples on one tree. Here's another thing... Your apple trees you see grafted on root stock aren't normally grafted onto apple rootstock. In my area back home we used sickle pear rootstock because it was a wild rootstock that thrived in that area. Those trees grew anywhere, but were worthless for root production. So there's a lot of things you can do that'll work, Mikey. You just picked the one thing that's doomed. Ya know, if you can grow that thing out in a container with perfect soil and water, and the roots don't freeze and die this winter, you could take all kinds of grafts off it and put on other established trees. I have a book here somewhere, if I can find it I'll give you a holler. __________________

04-10-2014, 11:18 AM	#11
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Last, but not least... Steve!!! Tomato update!!! __________________

04-14-2014, 06:24 PM	#15
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Hey guys, this is a really old book about growing tobacco. It's a direct link to a free pdf from the University of California. It's pretty cool. There's few pictures, but it's still worth downloading just to see them Hope you guys dig it!!! __________________

04-22-2014, 06:00 AM	#16
Steve Dad Jokester Supreme Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Steve Location: 17 R 435648 3354895 Posts: 7,715 Trading: (6)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Some truth right here... "Gardening Rule: When weeding, the best way to make sure you are removing a weed and not a valuable plant is to pull on it. If it comes out of the ground easily, it is a valuable plant." __________________ ...So don't sit upon the shoreline and say you're satisfied, Choose to chance the rapids and dare to dance that tide

04-25-2014, 06:13 AM	#17
8lug Smoking with the Chief Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Masshole Posts: 805 Trading: (14)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Garlic is on its way

04-25-2014, 06:25 AM	#18
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,244 Trading: (96)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Nice Mark. My garlic looks about the same size, although half as many planted. Tomorrow i'm getting 1.5yds of dirt to fill my newly rebuilt planters. A compost/top soil mix. I'll mix in a bit of organic fertilizer I have, then wait for the weather to get warm enough before I put in my plants. They're callilng for high 30's this weekend as the low temps. I've put too much effort into growing these from seeds to risk losing them to frost. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

04-25-2014, 06:53 AM	#19
8lug Smoking with the Chief Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Masshole Posts: 805 Trading: (14)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Thanks Bob, They're calling for frost here tonight too, I've got 26 plum tomato plants in the house under lights waiting for the darn weather to finally break up here. The second bed behind the garlic has spinach and lettuce in it. They're just starting to sprout. Does anybody have any Kentucky wonder pole bean seeds they like to share. I can't find them anywhere locally.

04-25-2014, 07:00 AM	#20
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,244 Trading: (96)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum 26 tomato plants? Hot damn, you must like tomatoes. The most I've planted before was 7. That was about 5 too many. I was giving them away to anyone that would take them. I'm thinking I'll plant my onions at least this weekend. Maybe my collards, broccoli and cauliflower too. They should be ok with the colder temps. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.