Official SEC Football Thread 2011 - Page 15

OLS · 11-06-2011, 09:38 AM

Looks like I am wrong, Mathieu doesn't celebrate until the interceptor rolls over, but you are also wrong, longknocker,
the ball is out of Williams' hands a full foot off the ground. That's not posession. They are a foot from the ground, and
the LSU defender's hands are on the ball and the tight end's hands are on the LSU player's gloves. Just watch a few
more times until you see it as a football play, not LSU stealing a game from Bama.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vid...tsIllustrated/

longknocker · 11-06-2011, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS

Looks like I am wrong, Mathieu doesn't celebrate until the interceptor rolls over, but you are also wrong, longknocker,
the ball is out of Williams' hands a full foot off the ground. That's not posession. They are a foot from the ground, and
the LSU defender's hands are on the ball and the tight end's hands are on the LSU player's gloves. Just watch a few
more times until you see it as a football play, not LSU stealing a game from Bama.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vid...tsIllustrated/

Your Opinion Vs. Mine.

At Least You Agreed That Play By Mathieu Was Chicken S**T!

OLS · 11-06-2011, 10:09 AM

Greg, follow that link, there are three different video reports on that website, all of which show the play you question.
All you have to do is watch it enough times to get oriented to what you are seeing, and you will see that you are
seeing it with Crimson-colored glasses. I am not making this up, it's all right there in front of you. Watch it 20-30
times until you get used to the timing of it. It's there right in front of you. Watch the leg/back hit the ground,
get familiar with what's happening there so you can shift focus to the hands. Reid had the game of his life, single-
handedly stopping Richardson in the early stages when no one else could tackle him. He quite simply rose above the
game, and the interception is no different. Don't stop watching the clip until you see it the way the officials did.
Til then you are just kidding yourself.

And in the end, this quote from the AP said it best.For all of Alabama's heralded recruiting
classes under Saban, it was clear the Crimson Tide didn't devote a lot of time to finding a kicker. Make no mistake,
from our own stupid penalties from over-physicality and idiocy and picks from our QBs, YOUR guys lost the game because
they have no kicker. And who needs a kicker when you roll over all your opponents, right??

Wrong. Les Miles didn't forget sometimes kicking is the ONLY way to win.

OLS · 11-06-2011, 10:49 AM

That Maze play is another reason I am glad that we beat the Tide in your own stadium.
Had this happened in Baton Rouge the drone would be never-ending. As it is,
the refs didn't beat the Tide, they just failed to capitalize on our mistakes.
Everybody knew there would precious few moments to make a difference in the
game. Maze throws a pass too late, the man was wide open initially and then our speed
backfield closed the distance and took the ball away. He takes excellent field position
and throws it away by failing to field the ball on a punt. He later blamed it on the overhead
camera wire...that's pausible. But man, those 4 missed field goals are unforgivable.
To focus on a play one way or the other is the true sign of a homer. Everyone knows
you have to play to a level that allows you to overcome the twists of fate and human
error.

OLS · 11-06-2011, 11:10 AM

The best thing about the game for me was how both teams just played their GUTS out.
Noo one in this country can argue that this was a clear case of the top two teams in the
country just absolutely rolling around in the dirt for one bone and in the end, the bone
broke nearly in half. One team just got the good end of the bone. Well played by the
offenses and defenses of both teams. No one need hang their heads at all.

And no one has to look any further than our traditional Thanksgiving trouble with the Hogs
to see that the SEC is still wide open. We just happen to have the lead now.
And Lord, lord, I would hate to be Mississippi State next week....

OLS · 11-06-2011, 11:55 AM

Greg, I wanted to make another point about Mathieu giving that guy the forearm shiver. I watched a replay this morning,
and the defensive series before the incident, the guy that got the forearm to the chops had tackled Mathieu by the face-
mask right in front of an official. I do not respect dirty play in any form and did not excuse his forearm from the outset.
But watching the series unfold again this morning, I know now where it came from. But make no mistake, the Honey
Badger has a big fat mouth and sometimes it takes over for his brain and it did there.

jsnake · 11-07-2011, 08:44 AM

Well it is official. Missouri is in the SEC so all your teams have at least 1 easy win next year. MIZZOU couldn't even compete and win in the BIG 12 so what the hell are they thinking by moving to the SEC? I love Missouri but I think this move was a bad one for them.

I am excited to see them play some new teams though.

OLS · 11-07-2011, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsnake

Well it is official. Missouri is in the SEC so all your teams have at least 1 easy win next year. MIZZOU couldn't even compete and win in the BIG 12 so what the hell are they thinking by moving to the SEC? I love Missouri but I think this move was a bad one for them.

I am excited to see them play some new teams though.

Nonsense, in the SEC, we make room for all levels of competitiveness. You will be made better simply
because of the competition you will face. You will get better recruits simply by virtue of being an SEC school.
You will stop losing blue chippers from Missouri to other schools. You will have Vanderbilt to practice on.
This is the best day yet for being a Missouri fan. Embrace it. Sure you will have trouble in the beginning,
but I bet you win 3 conference games your first year.

jsnake · 11-07-2011, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS

Nonsense, in the SEC, we make room for all levels of competitiveness. You will be made better simply
because of the competition you will face. You will get better recruits simply by virtue of being an SEC school.
You will stop losing blue chippers from Missouri to other schools. You will have Vanderbilt to practice on.
This is the best day yet for being a Missouri fan. Embrace it. Sure you will have trouble in the beginning,
but I bet you win 3 conference games your first year.

I can see it your way as well. All of these thoughts have crossed my mind. Anxious to see what the schedule for next year will be. Looking forward to getting into some of this SEC banter. You guys really put some thought in all of this.

Sauer Grapes · 11-07-2011, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS

Nonsense, in the SEC, we make room for all levels of competitiveness. You will be made better simply
because of the competition you will face. You will get better recruits simply by virtue of being an SEC school.
You will stop losing blue chippers from Missouri to other schools. You will have Vanderbilt to practice on.
This is the best day yet for being a Missouri fan. Embrace it. Sure you will have trouble in the beginning,
but I bet you win 3 conference games your first year.

I actually agree with this to an extent... Plus, by placing us in the Eastern Division, they've made it easier for us to almost be competitive.

OLS · 11-07-2011, 11:04 AM

Rizzle, I doubt you will find one credible sportswriter who will say in print where his cohorts can read it that
Alabama should have won that game. They lined up in huge lines to say it on FRIDAY and SATURDAY morning,
but no one said it on Sunday. I love Alabama, except for one day a year. But I do not love LSU so much that I will just
say homer-istic things about them to make myself feel good inside. If you had beaten us, even by one, even in regulation,
I would have congratulated you, because that's the kind of game it was. Everyone had ample chances to make good on the
opportunity in front of them. If you had the team to win by 14, you should have won by 30, because we gave you all the
chances in the world. But the measure of a good team is not perfection, but the focus to remain in the game despite your
mitakes. Jarrett Lee was good enough for 8-0, but not good enough for 9-0, so he got yanked. He made his mistakes and the
rest of his teammates erased his errors for him. The Tide failed to erase the mistakes of their kicker and their coach who
put him IN position to fail. Pooch punts would have been the better choice on the last two missed field goals. Moving the ball
against the Tide was TOUGH, nearly impossible. Les Miles used his superior balance to shackle the tide with bad field
position over and over. Nothing said Saban had to keep going for the big pass or the trick play. You didn't see Les Miles
reaching into his kooky bag. --edit--- Personally, I hated the way Miles was forced to play, FAR too conservative for his tastes
or mine. But in the end, that's how he won the game. If Saban had even QB sneaked three times and kicked the 3,
he might have won the game. But it was only a game. I only wanted to explain my statements, balance in all three
phases of the game is a very desirable quality, as is having people to fill in holes. The only place we are thin in 2011
is on the offensive line.

OLS · 11-07-2011, 11:30 AM

Jsnake,
They might need to change the way they do things to play in the SEC, though, I will give you that.
The spread is fine for a lot of conferences, but you need meat to compete in the SEC. You will need the ability to
grind the ball late in the game like LSU and UA. You play LSU with the spread and they are going to clean your clock.
But now that you can recruit Arkansas, Missouri, TN, KY, Illinios, etc, you will FIND the bodies to play SEC football.

OLS · 11-07-2011, 12:18 PM

And remember, I value my friends more than being right, so I will eventually give you waht you want and shut up,
I just thought you had some kind of logic behind these kooky statements

OLS · 11-07-2011, 01:24 PM

My comment regarding luck was not pointed at you but at jjirons, who didn't mention luck either. But since you
brought it up, sure, a lot of fans of the Tide might think, it was just the breaks, dumb luck, we shoulda beat LSU.
So just because YOU didn't say it, and it was never meant for you to begin with, there are certainly those who WILL.

But on to your points, your use of stats was impressive, but they leave out the main stat that was my point.
Not that you didn't know what I meant, either, you just ignore it because it throws out 1/3 of your argument.
If I meant balance between run and pass, my statement has no merit whatsoever. I am saying that in the three
phases of the game, offense, defense and special teams, LSU has better balance, and it is what we used to beat you.
Your argument is like the bodybuilder with huge muscles and a tiny dic&. Sure you can attract women, but you can't
do anything to please them once you get em home. In terms of run and pass, Alabama beat the hell out of LSU.
You had far more big gains through the run, and maybe as many or better yards through the air. But when the game
was on the line, OUR balance was better, we had not just capable people to punt and place kick, we had EXCEPTIONAL
people. Alabama's kicking game was insufficient to score from the places our defense forced you to attempt from.
Again, you did not have to miss my meaning, I laid it out for you, never once even hinting that I meant run/pass.
You killed us running and killed us passing. We stiffened in our end, but you made it look easy up until you were
turned away. And at that point, Nicky, you had better have recruited a kicker. He didn't.

The two teams were extremely even, I happen to think we are deeper, and I'd bet we are. But I also think we are
faster and better coached. But that is opinion, well the coaching part was kind of shown in the game, too, but
Nick is no slouch. But if you aren't comparing what I am comparing, of course you are going to think I am wrong.
Still there is no doubt that LSU has a more balanced team across all three phases of the game. If it were not so
there is no way we win.

OLS · 11-07-2011, 01:38 PM

I DON'T know how ticketing works for home and away, not at all. I have only been to one SEC game.
But people who DO KNOW about it stated that it was a surprisingly small amount of tickets. Doesn't matter.
100,000 plus didn't help you guys enough to make the difference.
And when you say a field goal would have made the difference, I say NO, 4 missed field goals would have made
the difference. You can't prove a negative. If you want to be the superior team your fans made you out to be for two
weeks at every place anyone would listen, then you have to BEAT LSU. You can't say we were the better team
because only one more kick would have given us a tie and two would have meant the win.
The game is timed. You have 60 minutes to get it done. What you might have done if you had had an 18 minute
4th quarter or another down in OT is irrelevant. Your coach made his choices, his players made their plays
and you need to live with the result. And don't be too mad at me, this is fun for me. I had to listen to the pundits
and the botls for weeks go on and on, "fixing that for me" in replies, all the people said LSU was going down.
But they didn't, and the WAY they made sure they won exposed what I term a weakness in your team.
You and I can have fun, and I hope this IS fun for you, but I am not making this up. We have superior balance
through superior special teams. BAMA is awesome, we just did what was necessary to beat em.

rizzle · 11-07-2011, 01:58 PM

Talking to you is like talking to my 2 year olds. LSU has better special teams than us. Unfortunately for us, it came down to that. Shouldn't have, but did. That's the way it goes sometimes.

But having better special teams, doesn't make you more "balanced", it just gives you an advantage in one of the three phases of the game.

Tickets... LSU's allotment was 7000, That's about the average number that SEC teams give/get. I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, other than heresay and I don't operate on heresay. West Virginia gave you 5000. Our stadium is for Bama fans and I'd imagine LSU's stadium is for LSU fans. I'll see if I can dig up what y'all gave us last year, as if it matters, but I'd hate to be all "homeristic" and not debate you with facts, which you seem to not understand anyway.

OLS · 11-07-2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle

Talking to you is like talking to my 2 year olds. LSU has better special teams than us. Unfortunately for us, it came down to that. Shouldn't have, but did. That's the way it goes sometimes.

But having better special teams, doesn't make you more "balanced", it just gives you an advantage in one of the three phases of the game.

Tickets... LSU's allotment was 7000, That's about the average number that SEC teams give/get. I'll see if I can dig up what y'all gave us last year, as if it matters.

I am guessing the 2 year old wins a lot.

It doesn't matter about the tickets, I said I didn't know and I don't. My point was I thought that your fans
would make some kind of difference with the huge differential. Like I said, I saw LSU-Vandy in 1983 and that
is my experience in SEC stadiums.

My argument, from the two-year old perspective, is that I felt like the two teams were basically
even in offense and defense and LSU had a significant edge on special teams....If the teams are even
and one has an edge in one phase of the game, that team is more balanced because the other two phases
basically cancel each other out. The only way I allow myself to say "significant edge" is because we made all
our field goals and Bama missed 4. We consistently punted you guys into your own 10-20 yard line
over and over. I hate it for you, too, that the kicking game decided the outcome. But again, from
what I hear from Bama fans, you were the better team, so it needn't ever have come down to that.
But I will stop badgering you, you can't be swayed by facts or stats and I am not an a$$hole, just a
fan of the winner.

rizzle · 11-07-2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS

I am guessing the 2 year old wins a lot.

It doesn't matter about the tickets, I said I didn't know and I don't. My point was I thought that your fans
would make some kind of difference with the huge differential.

My argument, from the two-year old perspective, is that I felt like the two teams were basically dead
even in offense and defense and LSU had a significant edge on special teams....If the teams are even
and one has an edge in one phase of the game, that team is more balanced because the other two phases
basically cancel each other out. The only way I allow myself to say "significant edge" is because we made all
our field goals and Bama missed 4. We consistently punted you guys into your own 10-20 yard line
over and over. I hate it for you, too, that the kicking game decided the outcome. But again, from
what I hear from Bama fans, you were the better team, so it needn't ever have come down to that.
But I will stop badgering you, you can't be swayed by facts or stats and I am not an a$$hole, just a
fan of the winner.

I knew going into the game that your special teams were better. Significantly. I don't believe it should have come to that, but it did. That's my opinion, nothing factual about it. I seem to be the only one providing any stats and facts, by the way.

You sure about that bolded part?

rizzle · 11-07-2011, 02:15 PM

Best I can find, the SEC mandates at least 5000 tickets be given to the visiting team. I know we have "agreements" with UT and Auburn to provide a bigger number each year, along the lines of 9000.

OLS · 11-07-2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle

But having better special teams, doesn't make you more "balanced", it just gives you an advantage in one of the three phases of the game.

Wait, that's exactly what it means. Bama is "lopsided" in it's glaring inability to affect the outcome of
a game through kicking. You are a super-power, but less balanced than LSU which can score in three ways
without much effort. You can score TWO ways without much effort. I am not saying you can't score
in the kicking game, I am saying it has to be a chip shot.

Nah, I am not an a$$hole, just mis-understood. WHo am I kidding, I am a huge a$$hole, ask anyone who knows
me. But I guess I am not TRYING to be one here.

11-06-2011, 09:38 AM	#1
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 Looks like I am wrong, Mathieu doesn't celebrate until the interceptor rolls over, but you are also wrong, longknocker, the ball is out of Williams' hands a full foot off the ground. That's not posession. They are a foot from the ground, and the LSU defender's hands are on the ball and the tight end's hands are on the LSU player's gloves. Just watch a few more times until you see it as a football play, not LSU stealing a game from Bama. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vid...tsIllustrated/ Last edited by OLS; 11-06-2011 at 09:46 AM.

11-06-2011, 10:09 AM	#3
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 Greg, follow that link, there are three different video reports on that website, all of which show the play you question. All you have to do is watch it enough times to get oriented to what you are seeing, and you will see that you are seeing it with Crimson-colored glasses. I am not making this up, it's all right there in front of you. Watch it 20-30 times until you get used to the timing of it. It's there right in front of you. Watch the leg/back hit the ground, get familiar with what's happening there so you can shift focus to the hands. Reid had the game of his life, single- handedly stopping Richardson in the early stages when no one else could tackle him. He quite simply rose above the game, and the interception is no different. Don't stop watching the clip until you see it the way the officials did. Til then you are just kidding yourself. And in the end, this quote from the AP said it best.For all of Alabama's heralded recruiting classes under Saban, it was clear the Crimson Tide didn't devote a lot of time to finding a kicker. Make no mistake, from our own stupid penalties from over-physicality and idiocy and picks from our QBs, YOUR guys lost the game because they have no kicker. And who needs a kicker when you roll over all your opponents, right?? Wrong. Les Miles didn't forget sometimes kicking is the ONLY way to win.

11-06-2011, 10:49 AM	#4
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 That Maze play is another reason I am glad that we beat the Tide in your own stadium. Had this happened in Baton Rouge the drone would be never-ending. As it is, the refs didn't beat the Tide, they just failed to capitalize on our mistakes. Everybody knew there would precious few moments to make a difference in the game. Maze throws a pass too late, the man was wide open initially and then our speed backfield closed the distance and took the ball away. He takes excellent field position and throws it away by failing to field the ball on a punt. He later blamed it on the overhead camera wire...that's pausible. But man, those 4 missed field goals are unforgivable. To focus on a play one way or the other is the true sign of a homer. Everyone knows you have to play to a level that allows you to overcome the twists of fate and human error.

11-06-2011, 11:10 AM	#5
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 The best thing about the game for me was how both teams just played their GUTS out. Noo one in this country can argue that this was a clear case of the top two teams in the country just absolutely rolling around in the dirt for one bone and in the end, the bone broke nearly in half. One team just got the good end of the bone. Well played by the offenses and defenses of both teams. No one need hang their heads at all. And no one has to look any further than our traditional Thanksgiving trouble with the Hogs to see that the SEC is still wide open. We just happen to have the lead now. And Lord, lord, I would hate to be Mississippi State next week....

11-06-2011, 11:55 AM	#6
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 Greg, I wanted to make another point about Mathieu giving that guy the forearm shiver. I watched a replay this morning, and the defensive series before the incident, the guy that got the forearm to the chops had tackled Mathieu by the face- mask right in front of an official. I do not respect dirty play in any form and did not excuse his forearm from the outset. But watching the series unfold again this morning, I know now where it came from. But make no mistake, the Honey Badger has a big fat mouth and sometimes it takes over for his brain and it did there.

11-07-2011, 08:44 AM	#7
jsnake Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2010 First Name: Jake Location: Your mom's house Posts: 1,309 Trading: (22)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 Well it is official. Missouri is in the SEC so all your teams have at least 1 easy win next year. MIZZOU couldn't even compete and win in the BIG 12 so what the hell are they thinking by moving to the SEC? I love Missouri but I think this move was a bad one for them. I am excited to see them play some new teams though.

11-07-2011, 11:04 AM	#11
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 Rizzle, I doubt you will find one credible sportswriter who will say in print where his cohorts can read it that Alabama should have won that game. They lined up in huge lines to say it on FRIDAY and SATURDAY morning, but no one said it on Sunday. I love Alabama, except for one day a year. But I do not love LSU so much that I will just say homer-istic things about them to make myself feel good inside. If you had beaten us, even by one, even in regulation, I would have congratulated you, because that's the kind of game it was. Everyone had ample chances to make good on the opportunity in front of them. If you had the team to win by 14, you should have won by 30, because we gave you all the chances in the world. But the measure of a good team is not perfection, but the focus to remain in the game despite your mitakes. Jarrett Lee was good enough for 8-0, but not good enough for 9-0, so he got yanked. He made his mistakes and the rest of his teammates erased his errors for him. The Tide failed to erase the mistakes of their kicker and their coach who put him IN position to fail. Pooch punts would have been the better choice on the last two missed field goals. Moving the ball against the Tide was TOUGH, nearly impossible. Les Miles used his superior balance to shackle the tide with bad field position over and over. Nothing said Saban had to keep going for the big pass or the trick play. You didn't see Les Miles reaching into his kooky bag. --edit--- Personally, I hated the way Miles was forced to play, FAR too conservative for his tastes or mine. But in the end, that's how he won the game. If Saban had even QB sneaked three times and kicked the 3, he might have won the game. But it was only a game. I only wanted to explain my statements, balance in all three phases of the game is a very desirable quality, as is having people to fill in holes. The only place we are thin in 2011 is on the offensive line. Last edited by OLS; 11-07-2011 at 11:12 AM.

11-07-2011, 11:30 AM	#12
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 Jsnake, They might need to change the way they do things to play in the SEC, though, I will give you that. The spread is fine for a lot of conferences, but you need meat to compete in the SEC. You will need the ability to grind the ball late in the game like LSU and UA. You play LSU with the spread and they are going to clean your clock. But now that you can recruit Arkansas, Missouri, TN, KY, Illinios, etc, you will FIND the bodies to play SEC football.

11-07-2011, 12:18 PM	#13
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 And remember, I value my friends more than being right, so I will eventually give you waht you want and shut up, I just thought you had some kind of logic behind these kooky statements

11-07-2011, 01:24 PM	#14
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 My comment regarding luck was not pointed at you but at jjirons, who didn't mention luck either. But since you brought it up, sure, a lot of fans of the Tide might think, it was just the breaks, dumb luck, we shoulda beat LSU. So just because YOU didn't say it, and it was never meant for you to begin with, there are certainly those who WILL. But on to your points, your use of stats was impressive, but they leave out the main stat that was my point. Not that you didn't know what I meant, either, you just ignore it because it throws out 1/3 of your argument. If I meant balance between run and pass, my statement has no merit whatsoever. I am saying that in the three phases of the game, offense, defense and special teams, LSU has better balance, and it is what we used to beat you. Your argument is like the bodybuilder with huge muscles and a tiny dic&. Sure you can attract women, but you can't do anything to please them once you get em home. In terms of run and pass, Alabama beat the hell out of LSU. You had far more big gains through the run, and maybe as many or better yards through the air. But when the game was on the line, OUR balance was better, we had not just capable people to punt and place kick, we had EXCEPTIONAL people. Alabama's kicking game was insufficient to score from the places our defense forced you to attempt from. Again, you did not have to miss my meaning, I laid it out for you, never once even hinting that I meant run/pass. You killed us running and killed us passing. We stiffened in our end, but you made it look easy up until you were turned away. And at that point, Nicky, you had better have recruited a kicker. He didn't. The two teams were extremely even, I happen to think we are deeper, and I'd bet we are. But I also think we are faster and better coached. But that is opinion, well the coaching part was kind of shown in the game, too, but Nick is no slouch. But if you aren't comparing what I am comparing, of course you are going to think I am wrong. Still there is no doubt that LSU has a more balanced team across all three phases of the game. If it were not so there is no way we win.

11-07-2011, 01:38 PM	#15
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 I *DON'T* know how ticketing works for home and away, not at all. I have only been to one SEC game. But people who DO KNOW about it stated that it was a surprisingly small amount of tickets. Doesn't matter. 100,000 plus didn't help you guys enough to make the difference. And when you say a field goal would have made the difference, I say NO, 4 missed field goals would have made the difference. You can't prove a negative. If you want to be the superior team your fans made you out to be for two weeks at every place anyone would listen, then you have to BEAT LSU. You can't say we were the better team because only one more kick would have given us a tie and two would have meant the win. The game is timed. You have 60 minutes to get it done. What you might have done if you had had an 18 minute 4th quarter or another down in OT is irrelevant. Your coach made his choices, his players made their plays and you need to live with the result. And don't be too mad at me, this is fun for me. I had to listen to the pundits and the botls for weeks go on and on, "fixing that for me" in replies, all the people said LSU was going down. But they didn't, and the WAY they made sure they won exposed what I term a weakness in your team. You and I can have fun, and I hope this IS fun for you, but I am not making this up. We have superior balance through superior special teams. BAMA is awesome, we just did what was necessary to beat em.

11-07-2011, 01:58 PM	#16
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 Talking to you is like talking to my 2 year olds. LSU has better special teams than us. Unfortunately for us, it came down to that. Shouldn't have, but did. That's the way it goes sometimes. But having better special teams, doesn't make you more "balanced", it just gives you an advantage in one of the three phases of the game. Tickets... LSU's allotment was 7000, That's about the average number that SEC teams give/get. I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, other than heresay and I don't operate on heresay. West Virginia gave you 5000. Our stadium is for Bama fans and I'd imagine LSU's stadium is for LSU fans. I'll see if I can dig up what y'all gave us last year, as if it matters, but I'd hate to be all "homeristic" and not debate you with facts, which you seem to not understand anyway.

11-07-2011, 02:15 PM	#19
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2011 Best I can find, the SEC mandates at least 5000 tickets be given to the visiting team. I know we have "agreements" with UT and Auburn to provide a bigger number each year, along the lines of 9000.