How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post - Page 3

01-13-2009, 04:56 PM

Some articles say freezing cracks the microscopic eggs , others say it just makes live larvae and beetles die and the eggs go dormant. There are studies done after multiple freezings , then being exposed to high temps and the cigars have been overrun by beetles. Theres also studies where microwaves were used to kill the eggs and some eggs survived. Personally i dont know maybe these bastards survive all extremes like roaches, but if i see any infestation i wont hestitate to fuk them, eye for an eye i say

md4958 · 01-13-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK08

but if i see any infestation i wont hestitate to fuk them,

hey, if it fits, go for it!

01-13-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by md4958

hey, if it fits, go for it!

Who's a bad little beetle , yes u are , yes u are **rub, rub rub** LOL

md4958 · 01-13-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tdk08

who's a bad little beetle , yes u are , yes u are **rub, rub rub** lol

roflmao!!!!!

longknocker · 01-13-2009, 05:28 PM

Thanks For All the great advice & Pics., Shawn!

07-27-2010, 10:37 AM

Thanks for the info, you got me scared now and I want to go home and check my humidor lol.

01-13-2009, 05:29 PM

theres a url showing the beetles penis under a microscope, i wont post it here though lol. I thought it was tobii for a second

01-14-2009, 11:04 PM

i still say sending a sealed box full of beetles is the answer, dude goes to open the box for a quick smell and bang that critters latch onto his face

Starscream · 01-15-2009, 01:30 PM

This ain't a sticky yet?

thebiglebowski · 01-16-2009, 01:53 PM

great post and this is almost exactly my process as well!

i'm gonna give silverfox a bump...

01-16-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thebiglebowski

great post and this is almost exactly my process as well!

i'm gonna give silverfox a bump...

Why thank you kind sir

Footbag · 01-16-2009, 02:01 PM

So 3-4 hours in my mailbox should do today. LOL!

Great Post!

DPD6030 · 01-16-2009, 04:14 PM

Thanks for the info. Shawn. This would make a great sticky.

02-08-2009, 11:20 AM

Got a PM on this yesterday thought I would bump it up again

ca21455 · 02-08-2009, 12:00 PM

I have stored a few thousand NC cigars over the years, many with several years of storage on them and have never found evidence of a beetle. Is this mainly a problem with storing older CC's or have I just been lucky?

02-08-2009, 12:48 PM

It occurs in CC and NC alike, have a look at the pic of the padrons in the first post of this thread

DPD6030 · 03-19-2009, 02:48 PM

So does one have to wrap in plastic before putting boxes in the reefer or can one just put the boxes in by themselves? Also, now that I found a few with holes do I just wipe out my vino with distilled H2O or something else?

Sr Mike · 02-08-2009, 07:12 PM

I have seen more beetles in Padron's (1926 and 1964 boxes too be specific) than any other cigar brand.

03-05-2009, 07:23 PM

got a special box that arrived today heading to the freezer with a stop in the fridge. Great post, thanks!!!!

CigarmanTim · 04-28-2009, 03:53 PM

Drat's last post looks similar to the Cigar Magazine 2008 Summer issue. In my mind it quotes the formost indepth study done on beetles. There are some differences .. Use the acclimated larval chart to be safe. Japan Tobacco's study shows a freezer at 32 degrees takes nearly 2 months to kill 100% of the beetles (all stages) They brought in infected bales and put them in freezers at various temps. Then got the old microscope out... it also agrees with Drats 100% kill at -4 F

Pick up the Cigar magazine with Vince Curatola on the cover.

01-13-2009, 04:56 PM	#1
TDK08 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Some articles say freezing cracks the microscopic eggs , others say it just makes live larvae and beetles die and the eggs go dormant. There are studies done after multiple freezings , then being exposed to high temps and the cigars have been overrun by beetles. Theres also studies where microwaves were used to kill the eggs and some eggs survived. Personally i dont know maybe these bastards survive all extremes like roaches, but if i see any infestation i wont hestitate to fuk them, eye for an eye i say

01-13-2009, 05:28 PM	#5
longknocker Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 11,121 Trading: (82)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Thanks For All the great advice & Pics., Shawn!

07-27-2010, 10:37 AM	#6
aar0n Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Thanks for the info, you got me scared now and I want to go home and check my humidor lol.

01-13-2009, 05:29 PM	#7
TDK08 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long theres a url showing the beetles penis under a microscope, i wont post it here though lol. I thought it was tobii for a second

01-14-2009, 11:04 PM	#8
TDK08 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long i still say sending a sealed box full of beetles is the answer, dude goes to open the box for a quick smell and bang that critters latch onto his face

01-15-2009, 01:30 PM	#9
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long This ain't a sticky yet? __________________ Insert quote here.

01-16-2009, 01:53 PM	#10
thebiglebowski Jack White's Roadie... Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: larry Location: music city, USA Posts: 665 Trading: (0)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long great post and this is almost exactly my process as well! i'm gonna give silverfox a bump...

01-16-2009, 02:01 PM	#12
Footbag I Need My Space Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Adam Location: NEPA Posts: 1,216 Trading: (7)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long So 3-4 hours in my mailbox should do today. LOL! Great Post!

01-16-2009, 04:14 PM	#13
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Thanks for the info. Shawn. This would make a great sticky.

02-08-2009, 11:20 AM	#14
SilverFox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Got a PM on this yesterday thought I would bump it up again

02-08-2009, 12:00 PM	#15
ca21455 Working on Reality Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: John Location: Backyard Posts: 393 Trading: (7)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long I have stored a few thousand NC cigars over the years, many with several years of storage on them and have never found evidence of a beetle. Is this mainly a problem with storing older CC's or have I just been lucky?

02-08-2009, 12:48 PM	#16
SilverFox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long It occurs in CC and NC alike, have a look at the pic of the padrons in the first post of this thread

03-19-2009, 02:48 PM	#17
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long So does one have to wrap in plastic before putting boxes in the reefer or can one just put the boxes in by themselves? Also, now that I found a few with holes do I just wipe out my vino with distilled H2O or something else?

02-08-2009, 07:12 PM	#18
Sr Mike As Is Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: EBFE Posts: 657 Trading: (6)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long I have seen more beetles in Padron's (1926 and 1964 boxes too be specific) than any other cigar brand.

03-05-2009, 07:23 PM	#19
promethius Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long got a special box that arrived today heading to the freezer with a stop in the fridge. Great post, thanks!!!!

04-28-2009, 03:53 PM	#20
CigarmanTim Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Heath, Ohio Posts: 117 Trading: (7)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Drat's last post looks similar to the Cigar Magazine 2008 Summer issue. In my mind it quotes the formost indepth study done on beetles. There are some differences .. Use the acclimated larval chart to be safe. Japan Tobacco's study shows a freezer at 32 degrees takes nearly 2 months to kill 100% of the beetles (all stages) They brought in infected bales and put them in freezers at various temps. Then got the old microscope out... it also agrees with Drats 100% kill at -4 F Pick up the Cigar magazine with Vince Curatola on the cover. Last edited by CigarmanTim; 04-28-2009 at 04:05 PM.