Gardeners in the Asylum - Page 24

gravel · 03-27-2014, 08:25 PM

My wife started planting some stuff last week in our square foot gardens , but I haven't a clue what she planted. I'm usually more involved.

hammondc · 03-29-2014, 08:52 AM

Well, my plan to build some raised boxes today went to hell with the weather. Dammit.

Steve · 03-29-2014, 09:17 AM

Same here. I'm just hoping ours doesn't float away...

Chainsaw13 · 03-29-2014, 11:16 AM

I'm waiting on Menards to ship some corrugated metal sheets before I rebuild my beds.

hammondc · 04-03-2014, 08:15 AM

Got the beds set up and filled. Where do you guys get your plants/seeds? Any difference between big box stores and a local place?

Chainsaw13 · 04-03-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hammondc

Got the beds set up and filled. Where do you guys get your plants/seeds? Any difference between big box stores and a local place?

Probably not. Most local places carry Burpee seeds or the like. Friend of mine recommended rareseeds.com if you're looking for older, heirloom varieties.

Steve · 04-03-2014, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hammondc

Got the beds set up and filled. Where do you guys get your plants/seeds? Any difference between big box stores and a local place?

Depends on if you are looking at Hybrid/GMO seeds or heirloom/non-GMO. Most of the local places around us, including the BBSs have hybrids and GMO'd seeds. We found a couple of small shops that have heirloom/non-GMO and have ordered from SeedsNow.com. Due to Holly's medical situation, we decided to go with as much non-GMO as possible and are sticking to organic.

YMMV

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shilala · 04-03-2014, 11:04 AM

I gathered up all our seeds and soil and have had a date with Miss Weeze all week to plant, but we just can't seem to get it done.
I can skate for another week, but we really need to get them in by this weekend. I still need to go pick up some herb seeds, too.

shilala · 04-03-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13

Probably not. Most local places carry Burpee seeds or the like. Friend of mine recommended rareseeds.com if you're looking for older, heirloom varieties.

Jamie (jjirons) saves seed from a gazillion heirloom varieties. I do, too. I have a five gallon bucket of saved seed in the basement. If you guys are looking for anything in particular, just let me know and I'll drop some seeds in an envelope for ya.
If any of you guys want to grow some tobacco, just drop me a pm with your address and I'll send you some seeds asap.

Steve · 04-03-2014, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

Jamie (jjirons) saves seed from a gazillion heirloom varieties. I do, too. I have a five gallon bucket of saved seed in the basement. If you guys are looking for anything in particular, just let me know and I'll drop some seeds in an envelope for ya.
If any of you guys want to grow some tobacco, just drop me a pm with your address and I'll send you some seeds asap.

Scary thought...

Maybe I'm just gun shy...

Steve · 04-04-2014, 08:38 AM

First fruit of the season!

shilala · 04-05-2014, 07:46 AM

Geeze. It'll be July before we get a tomato. I don't count green ones, though. Rookie!!!

Steve · 04-05-2014, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala

Geeze. It'll be July before we get a tomato. I don't count green ones, though. Rookie!!!

It'll be red before long...

357 · 04-07-2014, 10:22 AM

Trying to root some apple tree cuttings so I can clone my favorite trees. Anyone ever use rooting powder?

8zeros · 04-07-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 357

Trying to root some apple tree cuttings so I can clone my favorite trees. Anyone ever use rooting powder?

Cuttings are usually grafted. I've rooted some before but they died later from something.
Have to add that I didn't have too good of luck grafting either.

357 · 04-07-2014, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 8zeros

Cuttings are usually grafted. I've rooted some before but they died later from something.
Have to add that I didn't have too good of luck grafting either.

I figure I have nothing to lose. I trimmed some larger branches that were shading the middle or too vertical, and used water sprouts/suckers off the downed limbs. I'm probably going to be moving this summer and I want to take all three varieties with me. I have a Jonathan, Macintosh, and a Golden Delicious in my yard now.

I do want to try my hand at grafting too. I was going to wait a bit longer to give it a try. The snow here just finally melted so I'm just getting things moving.

Django · 04-09-2014, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

If any of you guys want to grow some tobacco, just drop me a pm with your address and I'll send you some seeds asap.

And which tobacco variety would that be?

shilala · 04-10-2014, 11:16 AM

Cuttings are actually grafted on rootstock that's bred for specific areas.
What generally happens is that the roots from the grafted cultivar aren't strong enough, can't withstand the moisture, soil makeup, climate, etc.
It's much akin to trying to introduce a Largemouth Bass to the Atlantic Ocean.

What you CAN get away with, Mikey, is to graft your branch onto pretty much any kind of apple tree you already have growing. You can graft any number of species onto the same tree. The most I ever had was five types of apples on one tree.

Here's another thing...
Your apple trees you see grafted on root stock aren't normally grafted onto apple rootstock. In my area back home we used sickle pear rootstock because it was a wild rootstock that thrived in that area. Those trees grew anywhere, but were worthless for root production.

So there's a lot of things you can do that'll work, Mikey. You just picked the one thing that's doomed.

Ya know, if you can grow that thing out in a container with perfect soil and water, and the roots don't freeze and die this winter, you could take all kinds of grafts off it and put on other established trees.

I have a book here somewhere, if I can find it I'll give you a holler.

shilala · 04-10-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Django

And which tobacco variety would that be?

I have Perique, Havanah 2000, San Andreas MX, and my own open-pollinated variety that comes from those 3 strains.

shilala · 04-10-2014, 11:18 AM

Last, but not least...
Steve!!! Tomato update!!!

03-27-2014, 08:25 PM	#461
gravel Still Washing My Back Join Date: Mar 2014 First Name: Geoff Location: Oregon Posts: 262 Trading: (3)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum My wife started planting some stuff last week in our square foot gardens , but I haven't a clue what she planted. I'm usually more involved.

03-29-2014, 08:52 AM	#462
hammondc Moar Padrons! Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Chip Location: Senoia, GA Posts: 2,625 Trading: (17)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Well, my plan to build some raised boxes today went to hell with the weather. Dammit.

03-29-2014, 09:17 AM	#463
Steve Dad Jokester Supreme Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Steve Location: 17 R 435648 3354895 Posts: 7,715 Trading: (6)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Same here. I'm just hoping ours doesn't float away... __________________ ...So don't sit upon the shoreline and say you're satisfied, Choose to chance the rapids and dare to dance that tide

03-29-2014, 11:16 AM	#464
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,047 Trading: (96)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum I'm waiting on Menards to ship some corrugated metal sheets before I rebuild my beds. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

04-03-2014, 08:15 AM	#465
hammondc Moar Padrons! Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Chip Location: Senoia, GA Posts: 2,625 Trading: (17)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Got the beds set up and filled. Where do you guys get your plants/seeds? Any difference between big box stores and a local place?

04-03-2014, 11:04 AM	#468
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum I gathered up all our seeds and soil and have had a date with Miss Weeze all week to plant, but we just can't seem to get it done. I can skate for another week, but we really need to get them in by this weekend. I still need to go pick up some herb seeds, too. __________________

04-04-2014, 08:38 AM	#471
Steve Dad Jokester Supreme Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Steve Location: 17 R 435648 3354895 Posts: 7,715 Trading: (6)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum First fruit of the season! __________________ ...So don't sit upon the shoreline and say you're satisfied, Choose to chance the rapids and dare to dance that tide

04-05-2014, 07:46 AM	#472
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Geeze. It'll be July before we get a tomato. I don't count green ones, though. Rookie!!! __________________

04-07-2014, 10:22 AM	#474
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Trying to root some apple tree cuttings so I can clone my favorite trees. Anyone ever use rooting powder? __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

04-10-2014, 11:16 AM	#478
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Cuttings are actually grafted on rootstock that's bred for specific areas. What generally happens is that the roots from the grafted cultivar aren't strong enough, can't withstand the moisture, soil makeup, climate, etc. It's much akin to trying to introduce a Largemouth Bass to the Atlantic Ocean. What you CAN get away with, Mikey, is to graft your branch onto pretty much any kind of apple tree you already have growing. You can graft any number of species onto the same tree. The most I ever had was five types of apples on one tree. Here's another thing... Your apple trees you see grafted on root stock aren't normally grafted onto apple rootstock. In my area back home we used sickle pear rootstock because it was a wild rootstock that thrived in that area. Those trees grew anywhere, but were worthless for root production. So there's a lot of things you can do that'll work, Mikey. You just picked the one thing that's doomed. Ya know, if you can grow that thing out in a container with perfect soil and water, and the roots don't freeze and die this winter, you could take all kinds of grafts off it and put on other established trees. I have a book here somewhere, if I can find it I'll give you a holler. __________________

04-10-2014, 11:18 AM	#480
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Gardeners in the Asylum Last, but not least... Steve!!! Tomato update!!! __________________