Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero

[T.G]

Originally Posted by wayner123

I find this very interesting given that a couple years ago when the Black CG's came out they were supposed to be a limited release that was not going to be regular production. Not due to the size, but due to the leaf/crop available. It seems that the black series has done so well he "found" more black material.

I don't recall Pete ever claiming that these or the previous Tat Blacks were from the same crop. Just that the blend is the same.

If Pepin has grown more leaf that is suitable for the cigars, and Pete wants to make them, then what's the big deal? It's just a recurring limited release that changes vitolas over the years when it comes out. Not the first time something like this has been done.

[wayner123]

Originally Posted by T.G

I don't recall Pete ever claiming that these or the previous Tat Blacks were from the same crop. Just that the blend is the same.

If Pepin has grown more leaf that is suitable for the cigars, and Pete wants to make them, then what's the big deal? It's just a recurring limited release that changes vitolas over the years when it comes out. Not the first time something like this has been done.

I didn't explain that correctly. I will have to find the discussion, but he claimed that Blacks were going to be his personal stash, then said that they were a one time thing, and now they are going to regular production? I didn't mean to say the same exact crop, but that the leaves used are supposed to be the same type.

I don't find it to be a problem, but that was part of the hype of the cigars, that they were going to be VERY exclusive.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by wayner123

I didn't explain that correctly. I will have to find the discussion, but he claimed that Blacks were going to be his personal stash, then said that they were a one time thing, and now they are going to regular production? I didn't mean to say the same exact crop, but that the leaves used are supposed to be the same type.

I don't find it to be a problem, but that was part of the hype of the cigars, that they were going to be VERY exclusive.

Understood. I seem to vaguely recall reading some of those statements too.

I think some clarification from Pete as to the production numbers and what he meant by "regular" might be in order. He might have just meant that this a split release due to the box fubar that brought about it's release in the first place Or maybe it will be a low volume continuous production. I don't know, but I can see it possibly meaning either.

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EDIT: I'm re-reading Pete's posts about the cigar production on another board, and it really does sound more like a split (early) release and then a limited release and he might have been referring to how factory workers are dedicated to a project. But I'll ask just to clarify.

[T.G]

I shot Pete a message asking for a bit more detail on the production and I mentioned the previous "limited / exclusive nature" commentary to which Wayne and I were talking about earlier in the thread, and Pete's reply was (reprinted verbatim with permission):

Originally Posted by Pete Johnson / Tatuaje

The cigars will be in full production but quantities will not be huge. Maybe around 20,000 to 25,000 sticks per year max. Available to any current full line dealer. I decided to make this and maybe another, full production now that we have the tobacco to work with.

[pinotguy]

I shot Pete a message asking for a bit more detail on the production and I mentioned the previous "limited / exclusive nature" commentary to which Wayne and I were talking about earlier in the thread, and Pete's reply was (reprinted verbatim with permission):

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Originally Posted by Pete Johnson / Tatuaje
The cigars will be in full production but quantities will not be huge. Maybe around 20,000 to 25,000 sticks per year max. Available to any current full line dealer. I decided to make this and maybe another, full production now that we have the tobacco to work with.

Thanks for the additional information - very interesting. I wonder if Pete might consider a true Corona (5 1/2" x 42) in the Black Label line? This size, with something like a flag cap, would be an incredible smoke, IMO. The medium ring-gauges have always been the best "show-case" for all of the Tat blends, and I've always wondered why this specific vitola has been ignored by them.