Hard Times CA support group

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Superbad

I was thinking about Kgoings' post, regarding the BOTL's here who helped him out. I would have done what I could, if I had known. Maybe we could get a list going of people who are willing to help. We could keep it off board so people would have their privacy. If someone needed help with something, we could take the issue to the people on the list and those who wanted to, could help. This could be as simple as helping a BOTL raise some cash by selling off some cigars, or even just sending prayers their way. If you were away from home and had a problem, CA members are everywhere, we might be able to find someone nearby to help out. I know I am always ready to help a brother in need.

Just food for thought. If you want to talk about this via PM that is cool too.

If the list of good samaritans and the list of those in need were both kept off the board, and everything was handled via PM, I personally don't see how it will be an issue...the ToE won't even know it is happening unless they are involved. But that's my thoughts, I will see what the others chime in with.

[massphatness]

Originally Posted by icehog3

If the list of good samaritans and the list of those in need were both kept off the board, and everything was handled via PM, I personally don't see how it will be an issue...

FYI Bobby -- I think this was the sticking point the last time. Can't speak for the TOE, but from my experience (and as weird as it may seem on the face of it), I don't think the open forums can be used as a conduit to facilitate this venture. I could be completely wrong about that (my memory isn't what it once was), and you may want to seek TOE guidance if you haven't already.

[pnoon]

My - fwiw.

I applaud the generosity, charity and thoughtfulness of our members. It is part of what makes this place so special. But I think an organized venture is not a good idea for a couple of reasons. First, most folks don't want a public declaration of their "problem". Even privately, it is difficult for many folks to ask for help. Another thing to consider is there are unscrupulous people who might try and take advantage of the charity. Who would decide if someone gets help or not? And how would that determination be made? You may have members of the group at odds over who and how to help. From back in the CS days to the present here in Cigar Asylum, people have stepped forward on an as needed or case-by-case basis. Honestly, I think that works well.

Please take my feedback above as a member (not as an admin) who has a fair amount of experience in this area. I have seen legitimate needs and I've seen scams.

Now, as an admin, I will say that if this moves forward all of the mechanics and logistics need to stay off the public forums and be conducted via PM or outside of CA.