I need help

Humpdebump · 03-31-2011, 02:53 PM

Not sure what to do now. I have a new Humidor that I received from waxing moon. The seal is tight, when I first got it I kept a bowl of distiller water in it for two weeks. The humidity stayed around 68 - 70% but it took awhile to get up there. I bought an extra large heartfelt tube which I felt was enough because my Humidor is 150 ct. Needless to say my humidity is around 60 and I have the 70% tube. I decided to buy another extra large 70% tube but it's staying around the same. I'm at my wits end, I don't know if I should buy about 6 of the boveda seasoning kits and start over or what. Any help will be appreciated. I did buy the boveda hygrometer test so I know that is fine.

03-31-2011, 02:55 PM

maybe ask `waxing moon` first? seems like they would know best...?

BlindedByScience · 03-31-2011, 02:56 PM

I'd put a shallow dish of distilled water in the humidor with the beads and watch the hygromoter. Once you get to where you want to, RH wise, you should be able to remove the water.

Of course, it goes without saying, that unless you've salt tested your hygrometer and know it's not lying to you, all bets are off. That should be the first step in setting up a new humi - salt testing your hygro.

Good luck - N.F.H.

hscmit · 03-31-2011, 02:59 PM

I would double check that your hydro is properly calibrated

03-31-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Humpdebump

...I did buy the boveda hygrometer test so I know that is fine.

is that like a salt test?

poker · 03-31-2011, 03:02 PM

most answers can be found here:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=620

croatan · 03-31-2011, 03:03 PM

I'd be happy--I prefer my cigars closer to 60% than 70%

Humpdebump · 03-31-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kickerb

is that like a salt test?

Ya, it's like the salt test

Humpdebump · 03-31-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by croatan

I'd be happy--I prefer my cigars closer to 60% than 70%

I guess, I just thought that would be too dry for cigar. I'm just surprised that I have two extra large tubes that are 70 and that's what I'm reading. Unless my house is extremely dry.

Zeuceone · 03-31-2011, 03:36 PM

put the tube in a tuperware and see what hygro reading it gives.

BlindedByScience · 03-31-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Humpdebump

I guess, I just thought that would be too dry for cigar. I'm just surprised that I have two extra large tubes that are 70 and that's what I'm reading. Unless my house is extremely dry.

....bingo.

When I had a desktop, the ambient RH made a huge difference. In the winter when the forced air heat would kick on, I often had to keep a little sponge humidifier wet with distilled water in the desktop to hold anything over 60%.

croatan · 03-31-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Humpdebump

I guess, I just thought that would be too dry for cigar. I'm just surprised that I have two extra large tubes that are 70 and that's what I'm reading. Unless my house is extremely dry.

Not at all. Before I went to mass storage, I used to use 65% tubes in my desktop to keep it around 62%. It's all just personal preference really as far as humidity goes. And I'd encourage you (and anyone else who hasn't yet) to play around with different humidities in the 55-70 range and see if you find one you like. Cigars don't have to be kept at 70% all the time--some people, including me, find that too moist for many cigars. You may also find you like some cigars at higher RHs and others at lower RHs. You might also notice a difference between humidity from passive (beads) and active (humidifier) sources. But, regardless, the experimentation is part of the fun of the hobby--or at least I think it is.

galaga · 03-31-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by croatan

Not at all. Before I went to mass storage, I used to use 65% tubes in my desktop to keep it around 62%. It's all just personal preference really as far as humidity goes. And I'd encourage you (and anyone else who hasn't yet) to play around with different humidities in the 55-70 range and see if you find one you like. Cigars don't have to be kept at 70% all the time--some people, including me, find that too moist for many cigars. You may also find you like some cigars at higher RHs and others at lower RHs. You might also notice a difference between humidity from passive (beads) and active (humidifier) sources. But, regardless, the experimentation is part of the fun of the hobby--or at least I think it is.

Man knows whereof he speaks. Two weeks is plenty of time to equlibrate the wood.

Also, fill it up with cigars. A full refrigerator will keep a constant temperature better, as the door is being opened all the time, than an empty one. Fill it up and after the cigars have equilibrated you will have a much more stable reading. If there is a leak, your cigars at 60% won't suffer.

NCRadioMan · 04-01-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by galaga

Also, fill it up with cigars. A full refrigerator will keep a constant temperature better, as the door is being opened all the time, than an empty one. Fill it up and after the cigars have equilibrated you will have a much more stable reading. If there is a leak, your cigars at 60% won't suffer.

And this old dude knows what he is talking about.

longknocker · 04-02-2011, 03:15 AM

I Definitely Agree With The Above Posts!

I Prefer 60-65 RH For All My Cigars; I've Tried Just About Every RH Over The Years. I've Had My Waxing Moon Humi For Approximately 1 Year, Now, & The RH Varies From 63-67 Depending On The Seasons Of The Year. I Always Use Boveda Seasoning Packs For 14 Days To Season My Humis & Calibrate My Hygrometer Right Before I Season. I Use A Combination Of 65 RH Boveda Packs & Shilala's Beads To Maintain RH In The Humi. Good Luck & Fill Your Humi With Cigars After The 2 Week Seasoning Period. That Will Definitely Help Maintain RH.

SvilleKid · 04-02-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by galaga

Also, fill it up with cigars. Fill it up and after the cigars have equilibrated you will have a much more stable reading. If there is a leak, your cigars at 60% won't suffer.

Another bump for galaga! fill that puppy up and then let it stabalize. It will ALWAYS act differently full over empty.

Humpdebump · 04-02-2011, 05:39 PM

I have it filled prob a little more than 3/4. I put a small shot glass of distiller water with tubes and it's about 62 - 63%. thanks for all replies and help

Patrick B · 04-02-2011, 05:48 PM

63 is perfect in my book. Smoke away and stop worrying!

03-31-2011, 02:53 PM	#1
Humpdebump Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Chris Location: Ct Posts: 263 Trading: (1)	I need help Not sure what to do now. I have a new Humidor that I received from waxing moon. The seal is tight, when I first got it I kept a bowl of distiller water in it for two weeks. The humidity stayed around 68 - 70% but it took awhile to get up there. I bought an extra large heartfelt tube which I felt was enough because my Humidor is 150 ct. Needless to say my humidity is around 60 and I have the 70% tube. I decided to buy another extra large 70% tube but it's staying around the same. I'm at my wits end, I don't know if I should buy about 6 of the boveda seasoning kits and start over or what. Any help will be appreciated. I did buy the boveda hygrometer test so I know that is fine.

03-31-2011, 02:55 PM	#2
kickerb Guest Posts: n/a	Re: I need help maybe ask `waxing moon` first? seems like they would know best...?

03-31-2011, 02:56 PM	#3
BlindedByScience Proud USMC Dad Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Tom Location: Vancouver WA Posts: 237 Trading: (0)	Re: I need help I'd put a shallow dish of distilled water in the humidor with the beads and watch the hygromoter. Once you get to where you want to, RH wise, you should be able to remove the water. Of course, it goes without saying, that unless you've salt tested your hygrometer and know it's not lying to you, all bets are off. That should be the first step in setting up a new humi - salt testing your hygro. Good luck - N.F.H.

03-31-2011, 02:59 PM	#4
hscmit Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: James Location: no where Posts: 2,200 Trading: (4)	Re: I need help I would double check that your hydro is properly calibrated

03-31-2011, 03:02 PM	#6
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03-31-2011, 03:03 PM	#7
croatan Missing Peter Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: James Location: la Vuelta Abajo Posts: 3,727 Trading: (6)	Re: I need help I'd be happy--I prefer my cigars closer to 60% than 70% __________________ Fumo ergo sum.

03-31-2011, 03:36 PM	#10
Zeuceone You're next Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: G Location: SoCal Posts: 1,737 Trading: (16)	Re: I need help put the tube in a tuperware and see what hygro reading it gives.

04-02-2011, 03:15 AM	#15
longknocker Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 11,259 Trading: (82)	Re: I need help I Definitely Agree With The Above Posts! I Prefer 60-65 RH For All My Cigars; I've Tried Just About Every RH Over The Years. I've Had My Waxing Moon Humi For Approximately 1 Year, Now, & The RH Varies From 63-67 Depending On The Seasons Of The Year. I Always Use Boveda Seasoning Packs For 14 Days To Season My Humis & Calibrate My Hygrometer Right Before I Season. I Use A Combination Of 65 RH Boveda Packs & Shilala's Beads To Maintain RH In The Humi. Good Luck & Fill Your Humi With Cigars After The 2 Week Seasoning Period. That Will Definitely Help Maintain RH.

04-02-2011, 05:39 PM	#17
Humpdebump Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Chris Location: Ct Posts: 263 Trading: (1)	Re: I need help I have it filled prob a little more than 3/4. I put a small shot glass of distiller water with tubes and it's about 62 - 63%. thanks for all replies and help

04-02-2011, 05:48 PM	#18
Patrick B Feeling at Home Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincinnati OH Posts: 713 Trading: (6)	Re: I need help 63 is perfect in my book. Smoke away and stop worrying!