Patriots Fans

VTDragon · 08-01-2011, 02:45 PM

I think that Banta-Cane, Crumple and Warren are ALL simple salary cap moves. If they are willing to come back at a lower price, Bill will rehire, if not, he feels that their on field worth has diminshed below their current salary cap number. This is not news, Bill has consistently done this over the years and every training camp there are moans and groans about him letting go of this or that "great" player. In virtually every case the players in question never again reach the level of play that they were at before and the substitute goes on to make us forget who was let go. Yes, there are exceptions, (Seymore and Ty Law come to mind). But, and this is a BIG but, they have to live within the salary cap. Look at a franchise like Oakland to see what you get when you sign guys to big contracts based upon past glory, but who are past there prime. Bill's way is better. Hey, lots of times I don't understand him either. But he is a far better judge of the true worth of a player than me, so I bow to his judgement. (Note, BTW, that he just re-signed Matt Light for two years).

chachee52 · 08-01-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VTDragon

(Note, BTW, that he just re-signed Matt Light for two years).

This actually suprised me more after letting go people like Warren. Light to me is over rated at what he does. Yes he makes a few key plays than lets the easiest plays go by him.
But I guess this is why I am not a coach

Bruins Fan · 08-07-2011, 10:21 AM

Pats are really stocking up with big D linemen just signing Shaun Ellis, about time no pass rush has killed us.
I hope a few of them have something left in the tank?

VTDragon · 08-15-2011, 01:27 PM

It was a fun preseason game Thursday night. Tough to judge just how good this team is as most of the starters did not play and I think the competition (Jacksonville) was suspect, but a few thoughts:
* I liked the rookie running back Ridley, good speed, good balance and willing to stick his nose in the line and not dance.
*Dane Fletcher had a great night at LB. Maybe some competition there?
*Nice to see Gostkowski back in uniform and kicking well.
*Solder looked solid at left tackle, but with Light re-signed, I expect he will see limited action this season
*Both QB's looked good, though Mallett was up against the last string for the Jags. I wonder if Bill will keep 3 QB's on the roster?
*Taylor Price looked real good at wide receiver, he was essentially red-shirted last year and could be a real break-out guy this year, especially once TB is throwing to him.
*If the Jags can be considered viable competition, it looks like the Pats have great depth, I'm sure a lot of their eventual castoffs will find jobs elsewhere at cut time.

Next up Tampa Bay, I expect the starters WILL see some playing time in the first quarter of this one.

Bruins Fan · 08-15-2011, 02:17 PM

This team will be very tough to beat,we will now have a pass rush

If the Pats had one the last three years we could of had two more Super Bowl appearances

VTDragon · 08-16-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

This team will be very tough to beat,we will now have a pass rush

If the Pats had one the last three years we could of had two more Super Bowl appearances

Yep

taltos · 08-16-2011, 11:28 AM

It does appear that the Pats have made some noteworthy additions, hope that the additons pay off for the team.

Stephen · 08-16-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

This team will be very tough to beat,we will now have a pass rush

If the Pats had one the last three years we could of had two more Super Bowl appearances

Playoff record 2001-2006: 12-2
Playoff record 2007-Present: 2-3

Unless that pass rush comes with some A/V equipment, you might be overreaching just a tad.

Bruins Fan · 08-19-2011, 07:53 AM

I see the Pats tearing up the NFL this season all the way to the Super Bowl.

Chad is a weak link and he knows it,he don't have much time to get his act together or he will be on the bench.
“It’s like a machine out there and I’m that one part that’s not up with anybody else,” Ocho admitted. “I got a long way to go, personally.”

08-01-2011, 02:45 PM	#1
VTDragon Feeling at Home Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Gary Location: Vermont Posts: 627 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans I think that Banta-Cane, Crumple and Warren are ALL simple salary cap moves. If they are willing to come back at a lower price, Bill will rehire, if not, he feels that their on field worth has diminshed below their current salary cap number. This is not news, Bill has consistently done this over the years and every training camp there are moans and groans about him letting go of this or that "great" player. In virtually every case the players in question never again reach the level of play that they were at before and the substitute goes on to make us forget who was let go. Yes, there are exceptions, (Seymore and Ty Law come to mind). But, and this is a BIG but, they have to live within the salary cap. Look at a franchise like Oakland to see what you get when you sign guys to big contracts based upon past glory, but who are past there prime. Bill's way is better. Hey, lots of times I don't understand him either. But he is a far better judge of the true worth of a player than me, so I bow to his judgement. (Note, BTW, that he just re-signed Matt Light for two years). __________________ An expert is a person who knows enough about what's really going on ... to be scared.

08-07-2011, 10:21 AM	#3
Bruins Fan Hooper drives the boat. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: John Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,359 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans Pats are really stocking up with big D linemen just signing Shaun Ellis, about time no pass rush has killed us. I hope a few of them have something left in the tank? __________________ Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

08-15-2011, 01:27 PM	#4
VTDragon Feeling at Home Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Gary Location: Vermont Posts: 627 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans It was a fun preseason game Thursday night. Tough to judge just how good this team is as most of the starters did not play and I think the competition (Jacksonville) was suspect, but a few thoughts: * I liked the rookie running back Ridley, good speed, good balance and willing to stick his nose in the line and not dance. Dane Fletcher had a great night at LB. Maybe some competition there? Nice to see Gostkowski back in uniform and kicking well. Solder looked solid at left tackle, but with Light re-signed, I expect he will see limited action this season Both QB's looked good, though Mallett was up against the last string for the Jags. I wonder if Bill will keep 3 QB's on the roster? Taylor Price looked real good at wide receiver, he was essentially red-shirted last year and could be a real break-out guy this year, especially once TB is throwing to him. If the Jags can be considered viable competition, it looks like the Pats have great depth, I'm sure a lot of their eventual castoffs will find jobs elsewhere at cut time. Next up Tampa Bay, I expect the starters WILL see some playing time in the first quarter of this one. __________________ An expert is a person who knows enough about what's really going on ... to be scared.

08-15-2011, 02:17 PM	#5
Bruins Fan Hooper drives the boat. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: John Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,359 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans This team will be very tough to beat,we will now have a pass rush If the Pats had one the last three years we could of had two more Super Bowl appearances __________________ Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

08-16-2011, 11:28 AM	#7
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: Patriots Fans It does appear that the Pats have made some noteworthy additions, hope that the additons pay off for the team. __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

08-19-2011, 07:53 AM	#9
Bruins Fan Hooper drives the boat. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: John Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,359 Trading: (0)	Re: Patriots Fans I see the Pats tearing up the NFL this season all the way to the Super Bowl. Chad is a weak link and he knows it,he don't have much time to get his act together or he will be on the bench. “It’s like a machine out there and I’m that one part that’s not up with anybody else,” Ocho admitted. “I got a long way to go, personally.” __________________ Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.