JoePa.....Sad if true....

11-10-2011, 11:59 AM

I've read everyone's comments, and agree with points from all of them. While Paterno is legally not guilty of anything, he is morally guilty of not using better followthrough. That's what it boils down to, in his case. The others are in deep legal doodoo, because of their inactions and the coverups. They're f@cked legally. I read the indictment, and with all the similarities from all the different victims, I don't know how it could all just be made up. Too many coincidences.

Paterno and McQueary are morally guilty (maybe even more for McQueary). Should McQueary have bashed in that monster's skull the second he saw what he saw? Likely. Should he have gone to the authorities, instead of just his boss? DEFINITELY. McQueary's dad and Paterno are at fault there. He told both of them at least some version of what he saw. Were I either one of them, I would have personally escorted him to the police station to have him tell his story there. Plain and simple. That is the step that Paterno truly failed at. If someone told me they saw someone doing something inappropriate with a minor, my first question would be to ask if you've reported it to the police. If the answer was not "yes" my keys would be in my hand and we'd be out the door immediately.

he's had a stellar record as a person and a coach, but this is something that is completely independant of who he is and what he did for a living. Did his ego get in the way? I can't say that, as I don't know the man. He failed to live up to his own code and the code that others expected of him as a mentor and a leader of young men. Children's lives have been destroyed as a result of his (in addition to others) inaction. Because he had a bigger name than any of them, he is the one who will be more remembered for his failures. He HAD a stellar legacy. It is his own lack of action (at least that one time, in 2002) that has allowed it to be destroyed. Could he have done more? Yes. SHOULD he have done more? ABSOF@CKINGLUTELY!

As for the school...they're majorly f@cked. With what has come to light about the allegations and the fact that the monster had the access he did to the facilities that he did, even though some at the school knew of incidents that occured there, they should be facing HUGE lawsuits as soon as the trial to lock up that piece of garbage is done, at the latest.

Stephen · 11-10-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanger

Paterno and McQueary are morally guilty (maybe even more for McQueary). Should McQueary have bashed in that monster's skull the second he saw what he saw? Likely. Should he have gone to the authorities, instead of just his boss? DEFINITELY. McQueary's dad and Paterno are at fault there. He told both of them at least some version of what he saw. Were I either one of them, I would have personally escorted him to the police station to have him tell his story there. Plain and simple. That is the step that Paterno truly failed at. If someone told me they saw someone doing something inappropriate with a minor, my first question would be to ask if you've reported it to the police. If the answer was not "yes" my keys would be in my hand and we'd be out the door immediately.

I just can't wrap around my noggin the fact that a 28-year-old man's first reaction to witnessing something like that is to call his Daddy. All I know is that's a burden he's going to have to carry with him for the rest of his life...

Stephen · 11-16-2011, 01:50 PM

I've been busy the past few days so I haven't been able to take in as much news as I normally do, but the Big Ten decided to remove Joe Paterno's name from the Big Ten football championship trophy. Also, McQueary trying to do some damage control after his Grand Jury testimony was made public. What a piece of work this guy is...

11-10-2011, 11:59 AM	#1
Wanger Guest Posts: n/a	Re: JoePa.....Sad if true.... I've read everyone's comments, and agree with points from all of them. While Paterno is legally not guilty of anything, he is morally guilty of not using better followthrough. That's what it boils down to, in his case. The others are in deep legal doodoo, because of their inactions and the coverups. They're f@cked legally. I read the indictment, and with all the similarities from all the different victims, I don't know how it could all just be made up. Too many coincidences. Paterno and McQueary are morally guilty (maybe even more for McQueary). Should McQueary have bashed in that monster's skull the second he saw what he saw? Likely. Should he have gone to the authorities, instead of just his boss? DEFINITELY. McQueary's dad and Paterno are at fault there. He told both of them at least some version of what he saw. Were I either one of them, I would have personally escorted him to the police station to have him tell his story there. Plain and simple. That is the step that Paterno truly failed at. If someone told me they saw someone doing something inappropriate with a minor, my first question would be to ask if you've reported it to the police. If the answer was not "yes" my keys would be in my hand and we'd be out the door immediately. he's had a stellar record as a person and a coach, but this is something that is completely independant of who he is and what he did for a living. Did his ego get in the way? I can't say that, as I don't know the man. He failed to live up to his own code and the code that others expected of him as a mentor and a leader of young men. Children's lives have been destroyed as a result of his (in addition to others) inaction. Because he had a bigger name than any of them, he is the one who will be more remembered for his failures. He HAD a stellar legacy. It is his own lack of action (at least that one time, in 2002) that has allowed it to be destroyed. Could he have done more? Yes. SHOULD he have done more? ABSOF@CKINGLUTELY! As for the school...they're majorly f@cked. With what has come to light about the allegations and the fact that the monster had the access he did to the facilities that he did, even though some at the school knew of incidents that occured there, they should be facing HUGE lawsuits as soon as the trial to lock up that piece of garbage is done, at the latest.

11-16-2011, 01:50 PM	#3
Stephen Sultan of Cigars Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Stephen Location: Where the Pony Express began and Jesse James ended. Posts: 1,582 Trading: (18)	Re: JoePa.....Sad if true.... I've been busy the past few days so I haven't been able to take in as much news as I normally do, but the Big Ten decided to remove Joe Paterno's name from the Big Ten football championship trophy. Also, McQueary trying to do some damage control after his Grand Jury testimony was made public. What a piece of work this guy is...