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Old 01-11-2009, 10:45 AM   #1
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You know none of those things really seem to influence why I get "nicotine sickness". However, probably the single biggest factor is how I smoke the cigar.

Specifically whether I smoke it fast or slow. The faster I smoke a cigar, the more likely that I'll get sick. For example, I've smoked LGD Chiesel, 601 Green, Tatuaje, etc... without any problems (and I always smoke my "strongest" cigar in the morning before breakfast and just with a cup of coffee) and I snork all my cigars these days.

But the last time I did get sick (to the point where I was really, REALLY close to heaving) was with an Oliva V, which is hardly a heavy weight (medium/full in terms of strength), but because it was so damn tasty, I was puffing away at it. By the time I hit the 1/2 mark, I was feeling it.

So #7 should be: Smoke at a slower pace.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:28 AM   #2
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I think there is a little confusion surrounding the whole Nicotine Sugar relationship.

Although a quick hit of sugar will sometimes in some people help in the "Nicotine Sickness" it doesn't actually have a counteracting effect as some people believe.

Nicotine actually causes reduced pancreatic activity which lowers the insulin released in your blood stream thereby causing increase glucose in the blood (temporary hyperglycemia).

The best ways to counteract the hyperglycemia are some of the ways that the OP mentioned. Hydration and a good meal of complex carbs being the primary ones, both of which help to reduce the bodies need for insulin as a result of well balance cellular glucose.

When you take something very sugary you are basically just masking one impact with another its kind of like taking a depressant to combat the effects of a stimulant, you essentially have two combating ailments in your body rather than balance.

Hydration, Diet and Exercise are your best fighters of Nicotine Sickness of course followed by the OP's other points of reduced exposure (smoking outside, less strong cigar, stop smoking at onset of signs, water and spitting)

If sugar works for you go for it, I am not suggesting it doesn't work for you I am just saying that it isn't a correction of the situation.

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Old 01-11-2009, 01:03 PM   #3
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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Default Re: The Nicotine Sickness Action Plan

Great post Fox! When I said sugar works, I didn't know that was why. But wouldn't that increase your blood sugar and worsen the problem (which is temporary hyperglycemia)?

Anyway, I'll be gulpin' water instead from now on
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:46 PM   #5
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Default Re: The Nicotine Sickness Action Plan

Very good advice!

Some people may be more sensitive to nicotine then others. I have found that you build up a tolerance over time. There were a few sticks I had to avoid when first starting, but now have no problem lighting up a strong cigar first thing in the morning before breakfast.
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:37 AM   #6
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Default Re: The Nicotine Sickness Action Plan

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Hydration, Diet and Exercise are your best fighters of Nicotine Sickness of course followed by the OP's other points of reduced exposure (smoking outside, less strong cigar, stop smoking at onset of signs, water and spitting)
Just asking since this is the first time I've heard of exercise or being in shape as a direct relationship to nicotine absorbtion/sickness.

Do out of shape people get sick from nicotine faster or more often?

Just curious.

I've never seen it in that light and over a long period of time I've seen sugar releave symtoms of nicotine sickness the quickest, even if it doesn't actually flush the body and fix the damage like water does. I think at the time of sickness, people want a fast solution to cover the symtoms and to help keep their stomachs in check. Kind of like Malox for an ulcer. Sure it doesn't fix the problem, but it helps to get past the attack.
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:20 AM   #7
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Just asking since this is the first time I've heard of exercise or being in shape as a direct relationship to nicotine absorbtion/sickness.

Do out of shape people get sick from nicotine faster or more often?

Just curious.

I've never seen it in that light and over a long period of time I've seen sugar releave symtoms of nicotine sickness the quickest, even if it doesn't actually flush the body and fix the damage like water does. I think at the time of sickness, people want a fast solution to cover the symtoms and to help keep their stomachs in check. Kind of like Malox for an ulcer. Sure it doesn't fix the problem, but it helps to get past the attack.
I believe the inclusion of exercise is to combat hyperglycemia, not nicotine sickness. By exercising more, your body uses insulin more effectively.

You definitely need to stop smoking and get lots of fluids in. The goal is to try and get the nicotine out of your body. However, if you are smoking and already dehydrated and didn't eat, a quick hit of glucose does work.
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:49 AM   #8
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good read. already had this happen to me.
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Old 01-11-2009, 10:08 PM   #9
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One other thing is don't drink Alcohol with your cigars if you are prone to getting "NicSick" Alcohol increases the permeability of oral mucosa and allows for greater absorption of nicotine.

Yet another vote for water, 90% of the time I have two drinks with me when I am smoking, lots of water and a cup of hot coffee. (Might as well add Cafeine to my nic hit )
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:30 AM   #10
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I Always Keep Some Jelly Beans Around. Works Instantly For Me, Taken As Soon As I Feel Queasy!
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Old 04-30-2010, 02:13 AM   #11
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