Tragic shooting death involving off duty Detroit Police officer

Bill86 · 07-10-2012, 03:45 PM

I have shot one of those, in fact I have one. You can't accidentally pull THAT trigger. Especially in a holster, it's probably a 10 pound D/A trigger. I'm sure it's possible.....but damn, not easy.

That said, accidentally discharges happen to A LOT of people sooner or later. MANY people won't admit it but they have shot a round in something sooner or later. Even if it's just at the range and they shoot the floor or ground. Gun jams and they accidentally pull the trigger while racking it......etc etc.

It hasn't happened to me but I do know people who have had it happen.

HollywoodQue · 07-10-2012, 04:17 PM

I DO NOT KNOW THE OFFICER OR THE VICTIM INVOLVED IN THIS TRAGIC SHOOTING. I am only trying to see for myself if the stated way this happened is even possible.

This is truely a tragic accident that occured within my department. I feel for the victim, her family, and the officer. I just had this same decussion at my barbershop. I barber has a CPL and carries. He also has the same neoprene holster that the officer was using which is horrible and offers not locking mechanism. Their are several types of neoprene holsters, but the one which he was carrying is just like a drivers wet suit.

At the barbershop, I took my barbers neoprene holster , placed a pair of his scissors inside, handle in first and was able to easily pulled one of the loops of the scissors handle in a downward motion as if it was the trigger of a weapon.

In this first photo, it shows the compact version of the weapon that the officer was carrying, but more importantly, it shows my holster, when properly placed on the waistband, it is parallel to the ground.

Now this photo shows a pancake holster carrying the DPD issued S&W MP in a holster designed to point at a 45 degree angle to the ground.

Now imagine if someone was squatting and held on to your waistband for balance, then pulled themselves up using your waistband. Went doing this, you may have a natural instinct to clench your hand. The weapon is concealed under my shirt.

Same photo with my shirt raised up and my thumb is still on the trigger.

07-10-2012, 03:45 PM	#1
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Tragic shooting death involving off duty Detroit Police officer I have shot one of those, in fact I have one. You can't accidentally pull THAT trigger. Especially in a holster, it's probably a 10 pound D/A trigger. I'm sure it's possible.....but damn, not easy. That said, accidentally discharges happen to A LOT of people sooner or later. MANY people won't admit it but they have shot a round in something sooner or later. Even if it's just at the range and they shoot the floor or ground. Gun jams and they accidentally pull the trigger while racking it......etc etc. It hasn't happened to me but I do know people who have had it happen. __________________ I'm drunk......but I'll get drunker! - Doug Stanhope

07-10-2012, 04:17 PM	#2
HollywoodQue Invictus Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Howard Location: In the "D" Posts: 3,125 Trading: (46)	Re: Tragic shooting death involving off duty Detroit Police officer I DO NOT KNOW THE OFFICER OR THE VICTIM INVOLVED IN THIS TRAGIC SHOOTING. I am only trying to see for myself if the stated way this happened is even possible. This is truely a tragic accident that occured within my department. I feel for the victim, her family, and the officer. I just had this same decussion at my barbershop. I barber has a CPL and carries. He also has the same neoprene holster that the officer was using which is horrible and offers not locking mechanism. Their are several types of neoprene holsters, but the one which he was carrying is just like a drivers wet suit. At the barbershop, I took my barbers neoprene holster , placed a pair of his scissors inside, handle in first and was able to easily pulled one of the loops of the scissors handle in a downward motion as if it was the trigger of a weapon. In this first photo, it shows the compact version of the weapon that the officer was carrying, but more importantly, it shows my holster, when properly placed on the waistband, it is parallel to the ground. Now this photo shows a pancake holster carrying the DPD issued S&W MP in a holster designed to point at a 45 degree angle to the ground. Now imagine if someone was squatting and held on to your waistband for balance, then pulled themselves up using your waistband. Went doing this, you may have a natural instinct to clench your hand. The weapon is concealed under my shirt. Same photo with my shirt raised up and my thumb is still on the trigger. __________________