It's happend

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

I think ours is less time. One of the few perks we got as mods there was exemption from the search time delays (you must wait 30 second thingie). Didn't remember it existed at all until afterwards and then.. arrgh.

I liked your post and agree. Puff will take the place of Cigarlive in my frame of reference (has that feel already). A different more commercial place that has it's value and vibe particularly for folks early in the journey. The videos are cool but lookng at Lopez is starting to make my head hurt almost as bad as reading stuff from KevinG.

the funny thing is Daniel and Jon I feel from reading a lot of there posts more wanted to have more of the CS feel but the reason its starting to get the "Live" feel is cause John has Daniel running both boards so they are both gonna take on Daniels vision for the boards. Having Moded for Daniel on GARlive I wall say you learn a lot about someone when you work with them instead of just talking to them and those are the reasons I felt I had to leave cause there were things that ethicaly I did not like such as password scrambling.

On a separate note and this is not trying to pick a fight with any of the guys over at puff but I find it funny how guys think that by staying there they will "save" what they had I'm sorry but the name of the board does not make the board the members do and the true heart and soul of both CS and CL are here and at outcasts now, so there is no saving there is creating a new forum not the old.

I truly don't wish puff or any of the core members there any ill will nor do I hope they fail but I also don't think they are gonna do any good for the cigar community like Jon and Daniel are trying to claim but it really is just a money maker for Jon and a way for Daniel to do what he said he wanted to do and the reason he started live in the first place and that is make video's and eventually short documentry style movies.

I truly want to thank the TRUE botl that started the offshoot boards to keep a place for us to all come and just talk.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by jitzy

. . . there were things that ethicaly I did not like such as password scrambling.
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What is "password scrambling"? And why is it unethical?
(The answer to the first question may answer my second)

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by pnoon

What is "password scrambling"? And why is it unethical?
(The answer to the first question may answer my second)

as an admin Daniel would change a members password so they could not log on to the site anymore so that he would not have to ban them but just make it so and I quote " Just make it look like they left" as far as unethical I feel that way cause you agree to a user agreement and he would "cheat" that agreement in his favor

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by jitzy

as an admin Daniel would change a members password so they could not log on to the site anymore so that he would not have to ban them but just make it so and I quote " Just make it look like they left" as far as unethical I feel that way cause you agree to a user agreement and he would "cheat" that agreement in his favor

No need to convince me it's unethical the way he would ban people. Not cool in my book.

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by pnoon

No need to convince me it's unethical the way he would ban people. Not cool in my book.

not cool at all, if you want to ban someone then just do it thats a see you next tuesday way of doing it.

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by jitzy

as an admin Daniel would change a members password so they could not log on to the site anymore so that he would not have to ban them but just make it so and I quote " Just make it look like they left" as far as unethical I feel that way cause you agree to a user agreement and he would "cheat" that agreement in his favor

Fair enough, not the bravest of options. Conversely, we have nothing but love for PDS. Character is an evolved trait and we all fall short in the face of adversity at times.

CS is merged and CL soon to follow. It's now old news for us CS folks and soon to be for the CL crowd as well, helps to get closure and be able to move on. This thread could be contrued as a lil "therapy" gettin it out so its.. well over with.

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Fair enough. Conversely, we have nothing but love for PDS. Character is an evolved trait and we all fall short in the face of adversity at times.

CS is merged and CL soon to follow. It's now old news for us CS folks and soon to be for the CL crowd as well, helps to get closure and be able to move on. This thread could be contrued as a lil "therapy" gettin it out so its.. well over with.

I can't say anything negative about PDS he truly has nothing to do with any of my feelings about this "merger"

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by jitzy

I can't say anything negative about PDS he truly has nothing to do with any of my feelings about this "merger"

Well you should look at the positive things that have come about from it...

CA and CO

New guy there has much to measure up to in contrast with Paul, time will tell in his iteration at bat. However, he's already shown better character than the other CL guy per your example. Agree or disagree with the plans, intent, new look, etc, from an ownership perspective could do a lot worse. Personally, looks to me like what they are building will benefit the cigar community as a whole by bringing new lovers of the leaf into our world. Where they choose to nest once they mature is entirely up to them.

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Fair enough, not the bravest of options. Conversely, we have nothing but love for PDS. Character is an evolved trait and we all fall short in the face of adversity at times.

CS is merged and CL soon to follow. It's now old news for us CS folks and soon to be for the CL crowd as well, helps to get closure and be able to move on. This thread could be contrued as a lil "therapy" gettin it out so its.. well over with.

As far as my comments about Daniel running club stogie I'm not saying this to take a shot at PDS, this was what was told to me by Daniel he said PDS did not have the time to do it (to me it sounds like PDS was smart to not want to be a part of it and pretend nothing was gonna change except for the better and for that I have nothing but respect for him)

Just a question was the character in adverse times directed at me? (not trying to start a fight just wondering

[VirtualSmitty]

Originally Posted by jitzy

as an admin Daniel would change a members password so they could not log on to the site anymore so that he would not have to ban them but just make it so and I quote " Just make it look like they left" as far as unethical I feel that way cause you agree to a user agreement and he would "cheat" that agreement in his favor

Couldn't they just reset their password though? It's a bs way of going about banning people but there is normally a link to forgot your password or some thing along those lines.

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Couldn't they just reset their password though? It's a bs way of going about banning people but there is normally a link to forgot your password or some thing along those lines.

you can't reset your password if you can't log in

edit: I just got what you meant and I know there was something that he did with that too with the email registered to the account

[VirtualSmitty]

Originally Posted by jitzy

you can't reset your password if you can't log in

Yes you can. if it doesn't take vbulletin takes you to a screen that says you have so many log in attempts left as well as a link to "did you forget your password'. Pretty standard stuff on all the boards.

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Yes you can. if it doesn't take vbulletin takes you to a screen that says you have so many log in attempts left as well as a link to "did you forget your password'. Pretty standard stuff on all the boards.

I edited that post I think he changes the email too thats connected to the account