Cleveland Guardians

Axeman · 07-23-2021, 02:59 PM

I think it is more insulting to associate Native Americans (from which I descend) with casinos and cigarettes than with sports teams. I'm ok with Celtics and Fighting Irish and Vikings and such too. I'm descended from all those.
What is it with the propensity to be offended, or even to see offense when the supposed offended see none? This offends me!

longknocker · 07-23-2021, 04:21 PM

Can't Believe It! I Guess The "Atlanta Braves" Are Next???

icehog3 · 07-24-2021, 08:58 AM

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Can't Believe It! I Guess The "Atlanta Braves" Are Next???

Chicago Blackhawks have already said they won't change names, and have the full support of Illinois Indian organizations.

Wharf Rat · 07-24-2021, 11:15 AM

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Chicago Blackhawks have already said they won't change names, and have the full support of Illinois Indian organizations.

Well, if the Indians were named after a heroic chief and used a handsome portrait as their logo, they might be OK. Look at it this way. If a team was called the Coons and had a caricature of a Black guy, you’d probably know it was wrong.

I went to college and lived in Cleveland for 20 years. Was big Indians fan. So, I have mixed feelings about it. I try to remember that someone whose ancestors were almost wiped out may be more sensitive about it than I am.

The Poet · 07-24-2021, 12:39 PM

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Well, if the Indians were named after a heroic chief and used a handsome portrait as their logo, they might be OK. Look at it this way. If a team was called the Coons and had a caricature of a Black guy, you’d probably know it was wrong.

I went to college and lived in Cleveland for 20 years. Was big Indians fan. So, I have mixed feelings about it. I try to remember that someone whose ancestors were almost wiped out may be more sensitive about it than I am.

Indeed. Hey, my high school teams were, and still are, the Indians. Would I petition they change their name? No, I would not. Would I object were they to decide to do so? No, I would not. Compared to all the REAL problems we face these days, obsession with something like this is silly. And things evolve, so people should make an effort to evolve also.

longknocker · 07-25-2021, 05:20 PM

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Can't Believe It! I Guess The "Atlanta Braves" Are Next???

Here You Go:
https://www.ajc.com/sports/further-r...CUCA6UH36WY44/

07-23-2021, 02:59 PM	#1
Axeman Still Watching My Back Join Date: Apr 2021 First Name: Lance Location: Mountains, Bay Area, CA Posts: 89 Trading: (0)	Re: Cleveland Guardians I think it is more insulting to associate Native Americans (from which I descend) with casinos and cigarettes than with sports teams. I'm ok with Celtics and Fighting Irish and Vikings and such too. I'm descended from all those. What is it with the propensity to be offended, or even to see offense when the supposed offended see none? This offends me!

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