Lets talk about the Swine flu...

05-01-2009, 08:41 PM

I was going to write a rant here, but the sensationalism around this thing has already caused me too much grief at work.

I would bet there have actually been over a million cases of flu in Mexico, and since no-one does viral testing outside of pandemic fear mongering measures, there would be no reason to really have the numbers on that. I would bet that the mortality rate on this thing is like 0.01% (not 1%, but 1% divide by 100). I bet this is right on par with any other influenza virus.

I mean, come on, look at the lady that returned to Calgary instead of letting herself be admitted to a Mexican hospital. When she found out that she had swine flu, she gave a television interview upon getting off the plane in Canada. The last time I had a upper resp infection I figured was truly influenza, there is NO WAY I would have been in the shape to give a television interview. Besides being a bit sweaty, she gave the camera one half-hearted cough and sounded to be in great spirits being on the camera.

That is the swine flu for you.

05-04-2009, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyanide

I was going to write a rant here, but the sensationalism around this thing has already caused me too much grief at work.

I would bet there have actually been over a million cases of flu in Mexico, and since no-one does viral testing outside of pandemic fear mongering measures, there would be no reason to really have the numbers on that. I would bet that the mortality rate on this thing is like 0.01% (not 1%, but 1% divide by 100). I bet this is right on par with any other influenza virus.

I mean, come on, look at the lady that returned to Calgary instead of letting herself be admitted to a Mexican hospital. When she found out that she had swine flu, she gave a television interview upon getting off the plane in Canada. The last time I had a upper resp infection I figured was truly influenza, there is NO WAY I would have been in the shape to give a television interview. Besides being a bit sweaty, she gave the camera one half-hearted cough and sounded to be in great spirits being on the camera.

That is the swine flu for you.

No doubt.

rizzle · 05-04-2009, 01:18 PM

3 schools closed in Tampa today for a week.

05-04-2009, 01:20 PM

GrtndpwrflOZ · 05-04-2009, 01:20 PM

How did the pig get to California?

05-04-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GrtndpwrflOZ

How did the pig get to California?

Smuggled illegally from Mexico?

smokeyandthebandit05 · 05-09-2009, 05:44 PM

Well Im home from Cali and dont have the flu! Im sorry Mr. reindeer that I was not able to have a cigar with ya!

10-26-2009, 11:09 AM

Me too Rich!

So I thought as we enter this year's flu season, I might resurrect this thread...

And rant about the EIGHT HOUR drive-thru line we sat in on Saturday so that mrsreindeer & I could get the H1N1 flushot at an L.A. drivethru clinic so that we can ensure that we wouldn't pass it on to our 6-week old baby.

The sensationalism is still rampant and the freakin' local news coverage of these clinics is ridiculous....

The ONLY reason we did this is to make sure that we don't pass this thing on to babyreindeer, who is still very vulnerable to any illness of any kind at this young age.

So, we headed out to the Redondo Beach clinic and got in line (and damn good placement maybe 1/2 mile from the clinic) at 8:15am. The clinic opened at 9am. Just a little before 9, the line starts moving and quickly and we thought this was great and that we'd have the whole day left to enjoy.

Note, no L.A. doctors have this thing, no drugstores; it's nowhere but these lame clinics. Lame clinics that are supposed to prioritize the shots according to high priority groups, including those who are caring after children under 6 months of age.

Well, no priority was given on Saturday and they were incredibly disorganized and the reason our line was moving a little before 9am was because Torrance PD redirected the line into Torrance. We lost our great placement and then witnessed miles of cars standing in lines from every which direction.

INSANITY.

EIGHT HOURS, EIGHT FREAKING HOURS.

And two Starbucks cups full of my own pi$$. Poor mrsreindeer hopped out at the only restaurant along the stretch to pee and then had to hold it for 4 hours.

Yeah, I guess things could have been worse...

When we finally pull into the clinic, we are told that they only have one shot left, but plenty of the nasal spray which our pediatrician told us not to get. The nasal spray has live flu in it and it could easily be passed on to babyreindeer. We tell the folks that we can't have the nasal spray and the wristbands they FINALLY passsed out an hour before (finally prioritizing the masses) were given to us with the promise that the wristband ensured a shot.

We have to beg & plead with them and somehow, one of the nurses finds another for me.

Has anyone else been through this nightmare????

ade06 · 10-26-2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrreindeer

Me too Rich!

Has anyone else been through this nightmare????

Nope, never had a flu shot and I don't plan on starting now.

On another note, one of my client's family who lives in Utah, got infected and his 11 year old son passed out and turned ghostly white in front of him due to the swine flu. After a day in the hospital he was well enough to be sent home, an 5-7 days, his entire family surrived and are back to the grind of daily life. Some scarry stuff, but, I'm still not voluntarily putting the virus in my body.

Blueface · 10-26-2009, 11:54 AM

This subject fascinates me.
Every year, 36,000 Americans die from the seasonal flu.
So far this year, 1,000 have died from Swine.

Of course it is no consolation to those that died from it, but 1,000 is barely a pandemic as compared to what normally happens annually from a regular flu.

This is nuts!!!

hotreds · 10-26-2009, 05:36 PM

Starscream · 10-26-2009, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

I am already a Vampire...so then maybe it will cure me?

Garlic flu?

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotreds

10-26-2009, 12:05 PM

ya know, sheeple amuse the hell out of me sometimes.

Numbers.

Around the world.....2 MILLION PEOPLE died from AIDS in 2007.

5,000 people die from "Swine Flu" and it's an ""Epidemic""???

Hello???

Let's put this in perspective....Causes of death in the US (2006) by the numbers...

Heart disease: 631,636
Cancer: 559,888
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 137,119
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 124,583
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 121,599
Diabetes: 72,449
Alzheimer's disease: 72,432

LINK

Special note here -

Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,326

So...just something to think about....

NSC recorded 39,800 motor vehicle-related deaths in 2008.

LINK

Now...

56,326 people DIED in the US from the FLU and Pneumonia in 2006.

39,800 people DIED in the US from a Motor Vehicle related accident.

Why weren't THOSE "epidemics"???

Gotta love the media, eh??

10-26-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobii3

ya know, sheeple amuse the hell out of me sometimes.

Numbers.

Around the world.....2 MILLION PEOPLE died from AIDS in 2007.

5,000 people die from "Swine Flu" and it's an ""Epidemic""???

Hello???

Let's put this in perspective....Causes of death in the US (2006) by the numbers...

Heart disease: 631,636
Cancer: 559,888
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 137,119
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 124,583
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 121,599
Diabetes: 72,449
Alzheimer's disease: 72,432

LINK

Special note here -

Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,326

So...just something to think about....

NSC recorded 39,800 motor vehicle-related deaths in 2008.

LINK

Now...

56,326 people DIED in the US from the FLU and Pneumonia in 2006.

39,800 people DIED in the US from a Motor Vehicle related accident.

Why weren't THOSE "epidemics"???

Gotta love the media, eh??

Why are we in panic over this swine flu? It is true that in Jacksonville people have caught it. But I have not seen any evidence of it being a pandemic.

05-01-2009, 08:41 PM	#1
Cyanide Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lets talk about the Swine flu... I was going to write a rant here, but the sensationalism around this thing has already caused me too much grief at work. I would bet there have actually been over a million cases of flu in Mexico, and since no-one does viral testing outside of pandemic fear mongering measures, there would be no reason to really have the numbers on that. I would bet that the mortality rate on this thing is like 0.01% (not 1%, but 1% divide by 100). I bet this is right on par with any other influenza virus. I mean, come on, look at the lady that returned to Calgary instead of letting herself be admitted to a Mexican hospital. When she found out that she had swine flu, she gave a television interview upon getting off the plane in Canada. The last time I had a upper resp infection I figured was truly influenza, there is NO WAY I would have been in the shape to give a television interview. Besides being a bit sweaty, she gave the camera one half-hearted cough and sounded to be in great spirits being on the camera. That is the swine flu for you.

05-04-2009, 01:18 PM	#3
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05-04-2009, 01:20 PM	#4
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05-09-2009, 05:44 PM	#7
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10-26-2009, 11:09 AM	#8
mrreindeer Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lets talk about the Swine flu... Me too Rich! So I thought as we enter this year's flu season, I might resurrect this thread... And rant about the EIGHT HOUR drive-thru line we sat in on Saturday so that mrsreindeer & I could get the H1N1 flushot at an L.A. drivethru clinic so that we can ensure that we wouldn't pass it on to our 6-week old baby. The sensationalism is still rampant and the freakin' local news coverage of these clinics is ridiculous.... The ONLY reason we did this is to make sure that we don't pass this thing on to babyreindeer, who is still very vulnerable to any illness of any kind at this young age. So, we headed out to the Redondo Beach clinic and got in line (and damn good placement maybe 1/2 mile from the clinic) at 8:15am. The clinic opened at 9am. Just a little before 9, the line starts moving and quickly and we thought this was great and that we'd have the whole day left to enjoy. Note, no L.A. doctors have this thing, no drugstores; it's nowhere but these lame clinics. Lame clinics that are supposed to prioritize the shots according to high priority groups, including those who are caring after children under 6 months of age. Well, no priority was given on Saturday and they were incredibly disorganized and the reason our line was moving a little before 9am was because Torrance PD redirected the line into Torrance. We lost our great placement and then witnessed miles of cars standing in lines from every which direction. INSANITY. EIGHT HOURS, EIGHT FREAKING HOURS. And two Starbucks cups full of my own pi$$. Poor mrsreindeer hopped out at the only restaurant along the stretch to pee and then had to hold it for 4 hours. Yeah, I guess things could have been worse... When we finally pull into the clinic, we are told that they only have one shot left, but plenty of the nasal spray which our pediatrician told us not to get. The nasal spray has live flu in it and it could easily be passed on to babyreindeer. We tell the folks that we can't have the nasal spray and the wristbands they FINALLY passsed out an hour before (finally prioritizing the masses) were given to us with the promise that the wristband ensured a shot. We have to beg & plead with them and somehow, one of the nurses finds another for me. Has anyone else been through this nightmare????

10-26-2009, 11:54 AM	#10
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: Lets talk about the Swine flu... This subject fascinates me. Every year, 36,000 Americans die from the seasonal flu. So far this year, 1,000 have died from Swine. Of course it is no consolation to those that died from it, but 1,000 is barely a pandemic as compared to what normally happens annually from a regular flu. This is nuts!!! __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

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10-26-2009, 12:05 PM	#13
tobii3 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lets talk about the Swine flu... ya know, sheeple amuse the hell out of me sometimes. Numbers. Around the world.....2 MILLION PEOPLE died from AIDS in 2007. 5,000 people die from "Swine Flu" and it's an ""Epidemic""??? Hello??? Let's put this in perspective....Causes of death in the US (2006) by the numbers... Heart disease: 631,636 Cancer: 559,888 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 137,119 Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 124,583 Accidents (unintentional injuries): 121,599 Diabetes: 72,449 Alzheimer's disease: 72,432 LINK Special note here - Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,326 So...just something to think about.... NSC recorded 39,800 motor vehicle-related deaths in 2008. LINK Now... 56,326 people DIED in the US from the FLU and Pneumonia in 2006. 39,800 people DIED in the US from a Motor Vehicle related accident. Why weren't THOSE "epidemics"??? Gotta love the media, eh??