Non Lethal Self Protection Advice

TanithT · 07-09-2009, 09:40 PM

There isn't a really good non lethal deterrent that she can safely use from a distance, and I wouldn't recommend allowing this POS to get that close.

Shooting him in the leg or the crotch isn't likely to kill him, but it should make him stop doing whatever he's doing and maybe think twice before bothering ladies who are home alone.

awsmith4 · 07-09-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TanithT

There isn't a really good non lethal deterrent that she can safely use from a distance, and I wouldn't recommend allowing this POS to get that close.

Shooting him in the leg or the crotch isn't likely to kill him, but it should make him stop doing whatever he's doing and maybe think twice before bothering ladies who are home alone.

I agree but she was insistent I find her info on alternatives

WyoBob · 07-09-2009, 09:46 PM

http://www.udap.com/product.htm

Has a range of around 30 ft.

WyoBob

68TriShield · 07-10-2009, 09:43 AM

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I agree but she was insistent I find her info on alternatives

Albert,the alternative is her being hurt or worse.

Non lethal means will probably only piss the loonytoon off more.
When and if he gets out,she needs to be packing heat and not a 22cal.

awsmith4 · 07-10-2009, 10:00 AM

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Albert,the alternative is her being hurt or worse.

Non lethal means will probably only piss the loonytoon off more.
When and if he gets out,she needs to be packing heat and not a 22cal.

Any thoughts on the Glock 36, seems slim enough and a .45

loki · 07-10-2009, 10:05 AM

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Any thoughts on the Glock 36, seems slim enough and a .45

good gun, reliable, will go bang every time you pull the trigger, and you can swap in smaller cal barrels for cheaper practice.

68TriShield · 07-10-2009, 10:20 AM

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Any thoughts on the Glock 36, seems slim enough and a .45

Rock Solid Albert,that goes for most all Glocks.

taltos · 07-10-2009, 10:33 AM

Prefer a Springfield Armory in 45 with a laser sight but that might be too much recoil for a second shot. She needs to find something she is comfortable shooting and can get a second and third shot on target. I hope that things work out ok.

elderboy02 · 07-10-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 68TriShield

Rock Solid Albert,that goes for most all Glocks.

All Glocks are great

Where is the gun smiley?

ade06 · 07-10-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 68TriShield

Albert,the alternative is her being hurt or worse.

Non lethal means will probably only piss the loonytoon off more.
When and if he gets out,she needs to be packing heat and not a 22cal.

Yeah, I unfortunately had a childhood friend go loony (bipolar disease and refuses to take his meds) and he flipped out on a female cop while naked. She ended up pepper spraying him and then shoot him 6 times. I wasn't there and there were no witnesses, but the police report stated that he was still fighting with the officer until he went unconscious. He survived and I've since seen him and talked with him around the old neighborhood, but he is certified crazy. His parents ended up moving from the city out of fear of their own son, because he turned on them a few times (once while they were sleeping).

If this guy is certified crazy, the non-lethal option, may not be the best option for your MIL.

07-10-2009, 04:40 AM

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"...Shooting him in the leg or the crotch isn't likely to kill him".

Actually, that's exactly where the femoral artery is located. Damage the femoral artery and he'll be a goner in minutes.

To the OP, I would be sure that those surveillance cameras were re-installed (assuming they haven't already since the one was ripped down), get a restraining order (violating this will demonstrate a patter of behavior and leave a paper trail as to your in-laws trying legal means (on paper) to defend themselves), and sign her/them up for a gun safety course at the local gun range. This will give her familiarity when handling a weapon and confidence from practice. Additionally, be sure she keeps the certificate of completion in case she ever needs to resort to deadly force and is asked to appear in court.

elderboy02 · 07-10-2009, 04:45 AM

Handgun. Double Tap to center of mass. I know she doesn't want lethal force, but if the guy is mentally crazy AND has a history of assault, I would not bet my life on Tazers, pepper spray, dogs, clubs, etc. They probably won't work.

Your mileage may vary.

Good luck. I hope everything turns out okay and this piece of scum doesn't bother her.

07-09-2009, 09:40 PM	#1
TanithT Feeling at Home Join Date: May 2009 First Name: T Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 692 Trading: (26)	Re: Non Lethal Self Protection Advice There isn't a really good non lethal deterrent that she can safely use from a distance, and I wouldn't recommend allowing this POS to get that close. Shooting him in the leg or the crotch isn't likely to kill him, but it should make him stop doing whatever he's doing and maybe think twice before bothering ladies who are home alone. __________________ Herfergrrl's blog - The Art of the Good Cigar: A Matter of Taste. Herfing is the most fun you can have with your clothes on.

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WyoBob Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bob Location: Buffalo, WY Posts: 155 Trading: (1)	Re: Non Lethal Self Protection Advice http://www.udap.com/product.htm Has a range of around 30 ft. WyoBob

07-10-2009, 10:33 AM	#8
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: Non Lethal Self Protection Advice Prefer a Springfield Armory in 45 with a laser sight but that might be too much recoil for a second shot. She needs to find something she is comfortable shooting and can get a second and third shot on target. I hope that things work out ok. __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

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elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,519 Trading: (133)	Re: Non Lethal Self Protection Advice Handgun. Double Tap to center of mass. I know she doesn't want lethal force, but if the guy is mentally crazy AND has a history of assault, I would not bet my life on Tazers, pepper spray, dogs, clubs, etc. They probably won't work. Your mileage may vary. Good luck. I hope everything turns out okay and this piece of scum doesn't bother her.