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[NCRadioMan]

Top 15 as of October:

1 Fedor Emelianenko
2 Brock Lesnar
3 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
4 Frank Mir
5 Josh Barnett
6 Shane Carwin
7 Junior dos Santos
8 Brett Rogers
9 Randy Couture
10 Andrei Arlovski
11 Alistair Overeem
11 Cain Velasquez
13 Fabricio Werdum
14 Jeff Monson
15 Gabriel Gonzaga

Mir is a joke being that high, imo. Fedor dominated NOG and was supposed to fight Barnett until Barnett got caught juicing. He is going to face Werdum next. If he wins, he will fight Overeem for the title. That will be the 3 fights on his current contract. After that, who knows. Maybe Dana will get his head out of his arse and promote the biggest fight in MMA history. I kinda doubt it.

If Rogers thinks he is going to get Overeem next, he is dreaming. You don't lose and get a shot at the Champ.

[zitro_joe]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

If Rogers thinks he is going to get Overeem next, he is dreaming. You don't lose and get a shot at the Champ.

HA! I know. Did you listen to that post fight blah, blah, blah he puked? " If he (Fedor) wants a rematch, I'll give it to him."

WHAT? Brett - Homie- you lost. Not Fedor.

[wayner123]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Maybe Dana will get his head out of his arse and promote the biggest fight in MMA history.

You should read this article. While Dana may be boneheaded on some things, giving up 50% stake in a company is not an option.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by wayner123

You should read this article. While Dana may be boneheaded on some things, giving up 50% stake in a company is not an option.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

Yep, we talked about this a dozen or so pages ago. It's not 50% of the company but 50% of the revenue from the ppv's. Don't believe anything Kevin Iole writes. He prints tons of false rumors and false "news" and nobody in the online mma community gives him the time of day.

Fedor vs Rogers peaks at 5.46 mil views!

The main event of CBS SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS featuring Fedor Emelianenko vs. Brett Rogers reached 5.46 million viewers while drawing impressive young adult and male demographic ratings, according to Nielsen live plus same day ratings from 11:00-11:15 PM on Saturday, Nov. 7.

The demographic ratings include a 3.5/10 in men 25-54, 3.3/11 in men 18-49 and 3.1/12 in men 18-34, 2.5/7 rating in adults 25-54, 2.4/8 in adults 18-49 and 2.4/09 in adults 18-34.

For the entire broadcast, CBS SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS (S) (9:00-114PM) averaged 4.04m viewers, winning its time period among adults 18-34 and men 18-34, and delivering ratings significantly higher than the Network’s season to date averages in the time period among young adult and male demos.

The ratings include a 1.8/06 in adults 18-49, 1.8/07 in adults 18-34, 2.6/07 in men 25-54, 2.5/08 in men 18-49 and 2.3/09 in men 18-34.

Compared to CBS’s 9:00-11:00PM season-to-date averages, CBS SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS was up +38% in adults 18-49 (from 1.3/04), +125% in adults 18-34 (from 0.8/03), +117% in men 25-54 (from 1.2/03), +178% in men 18-49 (from 0.9/03) and +283% in men 18-34 (from 0.6/02).

CBS’s SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS outrated ABC’s regionalized primetime college football in men 18-34 (2.3/09 vs. 1.9/07) and adults 18-34 (1.8/07 vs. 1.5/06) and ESPN’s Florida State vs. Clemson primetime game in men 18-34 (2.3/09 vs. 0.7/03) and adults 18-34 (1.8/07 vs. 0.5/02). CBS also topped ESPN2’s primetime Vanderbilt vs. Florida game in men 18-34 (2.3/09 vs. 1.1/04) and adults 18-34 (1.8/07 vs. 0.9/04).

The audience composition for CBS SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS was 31% adults 18-34 and the median age for the broadcast was 41.4.

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Fedor vs Rogers 9th Most Watched Fight In MMA History

Although this weekend’s “Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers” card was star-studded, America showed there was only one star worth watching as CBS received a huge spike just before Fedor Emelianenko took the cage in his U.S. primetime debut.

According to CBS, between at 11PM and 11:15PM, 5.46 million viewers tuned in to watch the Russian TKO the previously undefeated Brett Rogers in the 2ndRound of their contest.

That number is a significant increase from the 4.01 million viewers that watched during the 10:30 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. timeslot leading-in.

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Fedor Emelianenko Injures Hand In Victory

Fedor Emelianenko injured his left hand during Saturday night’s bout with Brett Rogers. The Russian successfully made his U.S. primetime debut on “Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers,” but it appears to have come at a slight price.

A source close to Team Fedor told the website that the first examination could not determine if Emelianenko had broken bones in his left hand, but he intends to visit a specialist to further assess the damage.

Emelianenko extended his nearly nine-year winning streak last night by defeating Rogers inside the Sears Centre Arena in Hoffman Estates, Illinois. MMA’s Terminator caught the former Sam’s Club employee with a vicious right, sending Rogers to the canvas 1:48 into the second round.

After briefly attending a post-fight press conference, a banged-up Emelianenko was sent to a local hospital. He later returned with his left arm in a soft cast that went up to his elbow area.

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Fedor's only out 4-6 weeks!

Fedor Emelianenko’s injuries may not keep the top-ranked fighter on the sidelines for as long as initially expected.

The Russian heavyweight underwent a successful surgery Tuesday in Los Angeles to correct a dislocated thumb in his left hand and will have a half cast removed in 4-6 weeks, Emelianenko and his M-1 Global management team told Sherdog.com during an exclusive video interview conducted only a few hours following the procedure.

Emelianenko, 33, was initially thought to have sustained tendon or ligament damage in his left thumb during his second-round TKO victory over Brett Rogers at Strikeforce/M-1 Global “Fedor vs. Rogers” at the Sears Centre Arena in Hoffman Estates, Ill. The potentially serious injury could have called for complicated surgery and might have kept the world’s No. 1 heavyweight out of training for an estimated 4-6 months.

Instead, the fighter’s reps said two pins were placed in Emelianenko’s hand to correct the dislocation, and that the bone had not fractured nor broken through the skin as is possible with this type of injury. The 15-minute procedure was performed under general anesthesia at a Santa Monica hospital, said M-1 Global officials.

In the video interview, which will premiere Wednesday, Emelianenko said he believes he hurt his hand early in the first round, but has experienced minimum discomfort from it since.

Emelianenko also said that his nose was not fractured, as was earlier suspected, following Roger’s first punch -- a straight left that cut the bridge of the Russian’s nose and caused steady bleeding throughout the seven-minute bout. Emelianenko, who had no substantial bruising or discoloring around his nose or eyes, said he’d cut the same area sparring with his brother Aleksander over the summer in preparation for his cancelled bout with Josh Barnett for Affliction “Trilogy” on Aug. 1.

Emelianenko said he planned to return to training, sans striking, upon his return to Russia later this week. M-1 officials said Emelianenko could headline his second co-promoted Strikeforce card in the first quarter of 2010

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Yep, we talked about this a dozen or so pages ago. It's not 50% of the company but 50% of the revenue from the ppv's.

This may have been beat to death (I haven't read the earlier discussion), but even 50% from PPV's that Fedor is featured in seems like a big taking. I'd love to see Fedor in the UFC but can we reasonably expect the UFC to accept that deal.

Also, I know Dana mouths off a lot about this and other deals, but does he make those decisions unilaterally, without input from the Fertitta bros.?

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by kayaker

This may have been beat to death (I haven't read the earlier discussion), but even 50% from PPV's that Fedor is featured in seems like a big taking. I'd love to see Fedor in the UFC but can we reasonably expect the UFC to accept that deal.

Also, I know Dana mouths off a lot about this and other deals, but does he make those decisions unilaterally, without input from the Fertitta bros.?

That was the rumor that they wanted 50% but Fedor's people have said that was just a starting point for negotiations. Dana said that they were firm on 50%. Who knows who to believe? If Dana is true to what he always says, that the UFC gives the people the fights they want, he would get it done...somehow. The UFC (Dana) thinks there is no competition compared to them and they should dictate terms at all times. He needs to learn how to give in a little to co-promote what would be the biggest fight in MMA history. IMO.

Dana is a minority owner but runs the organization. The Fertitta's trust Dana but ultimately, they have final say.

Dana is a goof ball. In one sentence he will say that Fedor is over-rated and nobody wants to see him fight. Then will turn around and say that they really want him in the UFC. He talks out of both sides of his mouth and he does that alot and usually starts berating people and calling names when he when he doesn't get his way. I respect what he and UFC have done but in spite of what he thinks, they are not the only game in town.

[dannysguitar]

Originally Posted by kayaker

This may have been beat to death (I haven't read the earlier discussion), but even 50% from PPV's that Fedor is featured in seems like a big taking. I'd love to see Fedor in the UFC but can we reasonably expect the UFC to accept that deal.

Also, I know Dana mouths off a lot about this and other deals, but does he make those decisions unilaterally, without input from the Fertitta bros.?

Don't some boxers split 50/50 ppv revenue?

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by dannysguitar

Don't some boxers split 50/50 ppv revenue?

They do. Even Don King learned he had to give in, sometimes. And they still make tons of money.

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

They do. Even Don King learned he had to give in, sometimes. And they still make tons of money.

Cool. I don't know much about the business side of things.

Some cross promo events would be cool. Like when Dana took Chuck to one of the Pride Grand Prix events. Didn't work out like he planned though.

Was there any real negative effects on the UFC when Chuck got ground n' pounded out by Rampage in another Promotions event? I know the UFC wasn't as big then as it is now.

[wayner123]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

They do. Even Don King learned he had to give in, sometimes. And they still make tons of money.

When did Don King ever give in? I am not asking this challenging, I would really like to know.

[wayner123]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Yep, we talked about this a dozen or so pages ago. It's not 50% of the company but 50% of the revenue from the ppv's. Don't believe anything Kevin Iole writes. He prints tons of false rumors and false "news" and nobody in the online mma community gives him the time of day.

I understand the difference between an opinion piece and facts. The fact is that a VERY large percentage of all UFC profits come from PPV. If they got those, who knows what else they would require when it came time for the next fight?

I gained a lot of respect for Dana after his Tito bout incident. I still think he is a promoter and like most promoter's they are all about the end dollar. (insert Don King here). I still don't think it was a bad move on his part to say no to the 50%.

Would I like to see Fedor come over to the UFC? Heck ya! Would I like to see Pride still around? Heck ya! But these things are likely to never happen as their are too many behind the scenes politics going on.

Couture vs Vera will depend on which Couture shows up. If the Couture of the Sylvia fight shows up, bobbing and weaving, then Vera will lose. If the old Couture shows up, then he will lose.

Lastly, I hate to jump into this thread with both feet in, and maybe I'll go back and read the other posts one day. I will keep aroudn now that I know it's here. I have been a fan of MMA from day one, even watching bootlegged Val Tudo fights, before UFC.