Famous Nic 3000

neoflex · 11-11-2009, 07:25 PM

I don't think they are hype sticks. They have been producing these for many many years and for a while they were always in stock as the demand wasn't that high. They sell out faster and faster simply because people talk and word spreads about how good of a smoke these are and word gets around. As far as bundled cigars I think these are one of the best and priced fairly well for a bundled cigar unlike some other shops that still charge $6-$7 for what esentially is a house brand/bundled cigar. Yes, the taste will change from year to year slightly. It's to be expected as the taste can change slightly with each crop. You will see this even with high dollar smokes and if you happen to pull a 2 year old stick and compare it with a stick that you bought a few days ago they will taste different. Different crops and one has been aged. These used to be a part of my regular rotation a few years ago but than I moved on to other things. I did recently smoke a newer release and I still think they are a great cheap smoke.

SmokinApe · 11-11-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by neoflex

They sell out faster and faster simply because people talk and word spreads about how good of a smoke these are and word gets around.

Exacly what I mean by hype stick...

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Originally Posted by neoflex

I did recently smoke a newer release and I still think they are a great cheap smoke.

Exactly my point...

Whee · 11-11-2009, 07:33 PM

Et Tu Taboo?

SeanGAR · 11-11-2009, 08:13 PM

The original ones were unbanded Olivia Serie X that were dumped after Fuente sued them (thanks Carlos) & they couldn't be sold as Serie X.

They were very nice cigars.

I haven't had any of the ones Famous had produced after the first run ran out, so I can't say if they're different or not.

neoflex · 11-11-2009, 10:30 PM

I guess I must have misunderstood what you meant by hype stick. I typically think of smokes like the Nub as being hype sticks where they were all people were talking about and everyone thought they were the best thing since sliced bread but yet they hadn't been released yet which made everyone nuts and start calling and seeking them out release day and also on the far end of the spectrum I consider Opus and Anejos albeit great smokes as hype sticks. Everyone wants them, most enjoy them but they can't be had all the time due to limited release dates controlled by the manufacturer(IMHO to create hype) and the retailers that do get them know this so in turn a bunch then double the mark up because they can and because people will still pay it. I honestly don't think the Nic3000s fit into this category. IMHO, its only the serious cigar smokers who typically know about them and seek them out. The average consumer who typically would help the hype machines for smokes like the Nub, LE Tats, Opus etc don't typically know about the small but very enjoyable bundle/house brands.

bazookajoe · 11-11-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanGAR

The original ones were unbanded Olivia Serie X that were dumped after Fuente sued them (thanks Carlos) & they couldn't be sold as Serie X.

They were very nice cigars.

I haven't had any of the ones Famous had produced after the first run ran out, so I can't say if they're different or not.

The originals were the best. The subsequent blends are good, but don't have the depth of flavor. Easily worth the $2 price but not worth twice that IMO.

MajorCaptSilly · 11-12-2009, 05:00 AM

The torps are on sale at Cigar Monster for the next hour:

http://www.cigarmonster.com/

MCS

wayner123 · 11-12-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanGAR

The original ones were unbanded Olivia Serie X that were dumped after Fuente sued them (thanks Carlos) & they couldn't be sold as Serie X.

They were very nice cigars.

I haven't had any of the ones Famous had produced after the first run ran out, so I can't say if they're different or not.

I have seen this rumor time and time again about these cigars. I have had the Series X cigars and IMO they taste very different than the Famous Nic 3000. From my research on the subject I have never seen it confirmed that the 'X' were actually the Famous Nic 3000. If you know different I would greatly appreciate that info.

SeanGAR · 11-13-2009, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner123

I have seen this rumor time and time again about these cigars. I have had the Series X cigars and IMO they taste very different than the Famous Nic 3000. From my research on the subject I have never seen it confirmed that the 'X' were actually the Famous Nic 3000. If you know different I would greatly appreciate that info.

Lots of innuendo without direct statements at the time from people in the industry who should be in the know.

I've had several of them side by side and thought they were exactly the same cigars. A couple of others who tried them thought the same. When you compared them, you compared the first run 3000s with X that were still available in a few places at the time?

The sizes were the same as Olivia had produced for X and they were box pressed, which the X were but which a bundle would typically not. They also came out at the time when Olivia would have been getting rid of them if they didn't plan on just naming them something else.

Proof, no.

wayner123 · 11-13-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanGAR

Lots of innuendo without direct statements at the time from people in the industry who should be in the know.

I've had several of them side by side and thought they were exactly the same cigars. A couple of others who tried them thought the same. When you compared them, you compared the first run 3000s with X that were still available in a few places at the time?

The sizes were the same as Olivia had produced for X and they were box pressed, which the X were but which a bundle would typically not. They also came out at the time when Olivia would have been getting rid of them if they didn't plan on just naming them something else.

Proof, no.

I went to researching and came to the same conclusion really. No real confirmation if they are the same cigar. I did however find that the Series X were made for Eddie Ortega (United Tobacco) in the Oliva factory. The same Series X which Fuente later sued Eddie for.

I have compared the X series to Original Release 3000's in each vitola. I still have some X series. I have done vertical tastings and they taste very different to me. Maybe it's aging, or different crop from different fields, who knows? But they tasted different to me. Lookwise, they are similar, but a lot of different cigars look the same.

Zanaspus · 11-13-2009, 08:26 AM

Shrug. I just know I like em a lot.

11-15-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wayner123

I went to researching and came to the same conclusion really. No real confirmation if they are the same cigar. I did however find that the Series X were made for Eddie Ortega (United Tobacco) in the Oliva factory. The same Series X which Fuente later sued Eddie for.

I have compared the X series to Original Release 3000's in each vitola. I still have some X series. I have done vertical tastings and they taste very different to me. Maybe it's aging, or different crop from different fields, who knows? But they tasted different to me. Lookwise, they are similar, but a lot of different cigars look the same.

I might be totally confused, but I always thought the OR Nic 3000 were the unbanded Oliva Masterblend I.

11-11-2009, 07:25 PM	#1
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: Famous Nic 3000 I don't think they are hype sticks. They have been producing these for many many years and for a while they were always in stock as the demand wasn't that high. They sell out faster and faster simply because people talk and word spreads about how good of a smoke these are and word gets around. As far as bundled cigars I think these are one of the best and priced fairly well for a bundled cigar unlike some other shops that still charge $6-$7 for what esentially is a house brand/bundled cigar. Yes, the taste will change from year to year slightly. It's to be expected as the taste can change slightly with each crop. You will see this even with high dollar smokes and if you happen to pull a 2 year old stick and compare it with a stick that you bought a few days ago they will taste different. Different crops and one has been aged. These used to be a part of my regular rotation a few years ago but than I moved on to other things. I did recently smoke a newer release and I still think they are a great cheap smoke. __________________

11-11-2009, 07:33 PM	#3
Whee formerly illinoishoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Sean Location: Bishopville, SC Posts: 3,593 Trading: (17)	Re: Famous Nic 3000 Et Tu Taboo? __________________ "Maybe I'm wrong, when they tell me they're right…..naaaaahhhhhh, I'm an asshooooooleeee"--Denis Leary

11-11-2009, 08:13 PM	#4
SeanGAR Crotchety Geezer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Radford VA Posts: 911 Trading: (3)	Re: Famous Nic 3000 The original ones were unbanded Olivia Serie X that were dumped after Fuente sued them (thanks Carlos) & they couldn't be sold as Serie X. They were very nice cigars. I haven't had any of the ones Famous had produced after the first run ran out, so I can't say if they're different or not. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

11-11-2009, 10:30 PM	#5
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: Famous Nic 3000 I guess I must have misunderstood what you meant by hype stick. I typically think of smokes like the Nub as being hype sticks where they were all people were talking about and everyone thought they were the best thing since sliced bread but yet they hadn't been released yet which made everyone nuts and start calling and seeking them out release day and also on the far end of the spectrum I consider Opus and Anejos albeit great smokes as hype sticks. Everyone wants them, most enjoy them but they can't be had all the time due to limited release dates controlled by the manufacturer(IMHO to create hype) and the retailers that do get them know this so in turn a bunch then double the mark up because they can and because people will still pay it. I honestly don't think the Nic3000s fit into this category. IMHO, its only the serious cigar smokers who typically know about them and seek them out. The average consumer who typically would help the hype machines for smokes like the Nub, LE Tats, Opus etc don't typically know about the small but very enjoyable bundle/house brands. __________________

11-12-2009, 05:00 AM	#7
MajorCaptSilly Sklee Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,523 Trading: (30)	Re: Famous Nic 3000 The torps are on sale at Cigar Monster for the next hour: http://www.cigarmonster.com/ MCS __________________ Pillsbury, Minneapolis, Prince, Spoon Bridge and Cherry, coinkydink?

11-13-2009, 08:26 AM	#11
Zanaspus Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Tony Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 492 Trading: (3)	Re: Famous Nic 3000 Shrug. I just know I like em a lot. __________________ If you're gonna be a lamb, you might as well be a sheep.