Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks?

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by barbourjay

as i posted earlier if a mod clears it then i will post it. none have spoken and i'm sure at least one of them has read this.

Come on, "you can do it".
Man I love this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wbSBxTLe40

[sjnovakovich]

Pardon my harshness here, but this whole thread reminds me of a bunch of sorority chicks gossiping about who was under the bleachers with whom. This dealer needs to be outed in order to protect others. Let's go mods. Release the name! Just my

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by sjnovakovich

Pardon my harshness here, but this whole thread reminds me of a bunch of sorority chicks gossiping about who was under the bleachers with whom. This dealer needs to be outed in order to protect others. Let's go mods. Release the name! Just my

If it were that simple of a decision, it would have been made immediately. There is more to it than just this issue. It can/will have an impact on how things are handled in the future. Decisions like this are not taken lightly by the TOE. Besides, it is as much an issue for Jeremy to decide if/who he shares it with. We're just deciding if it should be something posted publicly.


I think there is a paralell here with purchasing Habanos. Trust your vendor. Should you really be buying uber premium cigars from a retailer you don't know/trust or haven't been referred to by someone you do trust?

Just my

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by pnoon

If it were that simple of a decision, it would have been made immediately. There is more to it than just this issue. It can/will have an impact on how things are handled in the future. Decisions like this are not taken lightly by the TOE.

Not to mention that similar "outings" have caused Mob mentalities in sites I have moderated in the past, and sometimes it was found that the OP was the mistaken one, while the retailer was taken to task for something they were falsely accused of (not saying that is the case here at all).

Originally Posted by icehog3

Not to mention that similar "outings" have caused Mob mentalities in sites I have moderated in the past, and sometimes it was found that the OP was the mistaken one, while the retailer was taken to task for something they were falsely accused of (not saying that is the case here at all).

I can see how the mob mentality could take over. But it appears as if Jay posted this on multiple forums and has said that Drew Newman himself declared them fakes. Also it seems that a larger than normal amount of maduro opus have been for sale on ebay. This confirmed retailer of fakes could easily sell a fake on ebay and nobody would be any wiser as they sure looked real to me!! Jay has said he'd ge glad to post the name and address of this shop which could at least be a small victory for opus lovers. I mean if I was sold fake opus and had Drew or similar declaring them as such then I would have no hesitation to out the retailer.

Negative feedback is just as important as positive feedback. I mean heck, there are some GREAT retailers here who helped me get some opus at great pricing (including Jay himself). I think this is simply a matter of protecting our own. Then again my opinion is worth about

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Only Fuentes

I can see how the mob mentality could take over. But it appears as if Jay posted this on multiple forums and has said that Drew Newman himself declared them fakes. Also it seems that a larger than normal maduro opus have been for sale on ebay. This confirmed retailer of fakes could easily sell a fake on ebay and nobody would be any wiser as they sure looked real to me!! Jay has said he'd ge glad to post the name and address of this shop which could at least be a small victory for opus lovers. I mean if I was sold fake opus and had Drew or similar declaring them as such then I would have no hesittion to out the retailer.

Negative feedback is just as important as positive feedback. I mean heck, there are some GREAT retailers here who helped me get some opus at great pricing (including Jay himself). I think this is simply a matter of protecting our own. Then again my opinion is worth about

Andy, my answer wasn't the definitive one, the TOE are actively discussing the matter...it is a decision we don't take lightly, in part to reasons Peter and I outlined above. I would hope that the inmates who read this thread would be wise and wary enough not to buy any of these cigars on eBay based on what we already know here. There will be plenty of other suckers who don't belong to an on-line cigar board lining up for purchase. And those inmates who don't read the thread wouldn't see the name anyway.

Your points are all well taken, and we will consider them in our discussion.

I respect that and am glad to hear that the TOE is taking this seriously.