Selig Won't Reverse Call

[galaga]

It's baseball. Played by people and refereed by people. The ump blew it. The game is over. The ump can't change the call. It is in the books, but by damn, the commissioner should be able to change the error. I'm all for all for not changing baseball from the way it has been played all these years. But Selig should protect the integrity of the game.

From Wikipedia:
Integrity in modern ethics
In a formal study of the term "integrity" and its meaning in modern ethics, law professor Stephen L. Carter sees integrity not only as a refusal to engage in behavior that evades responsibility[citation needed], but also as an understanding of different modes or styles in which discourse attempts to uncover a particular truth.[citation needed]
Carter writes that integrity requires three steps: "discerning what is right and what is wrong; acting on what you have discerned, even at personal cost; and saying openly that you are acting on your understanding of right from wrong." He regards integrity as being distinct from honesty.[5]

# [5] Carter, Stephen L (1996). Integrity. New York: BasicBooks/HarperCollins. pp. 7, 10. ISBN 0-06-092807-7. On page 242 Carter credits influence "to some extent by the fine discussion of integrity in Martin Benjamin's book Splitting the Difference: Compromise and Integrity in Ethics and Politics (Lawrence University Press of Kansas, 1990).

Do the right thing, Bud, you're the commissioner.

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by galaga

But Selig should protect the integrity of the game.

And I would argue that he DID maintain the integrity of the game, by NOT changing the call. It all depends on how one chooses to parse it.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by The Poet

And I would argue that he DID maintain the integrity of the game, by NOT changing the call.

Agreed.
He just upheld the trust of his position. It's not even arguable. Bud simply did what he's supposed to do.
It still made me hold my breath when I read the story this morning. It's tough to do the right thing when everyone is staring at you to make the decision that will make everyone happy.
More baseball life-ism in Bud's actions, too.

[galaga]

Originally Posted by The Poet

And I would argue that he DID maintain the integrity of the game, by NOT changing the call. It all depends on how one chooses to parse it.

Originally Posted by shilala

Agreed.
He just upheld the trust of his position. It's not even arguable. Bud simply did what he's supposed to do.
It still made me hold my breath when I read the story this morning. It's tough to do the right thing when everyone is staring at you to make the decision that will make everyone happy.
More baseball life-ism in Bud's actions, too.

Making the arguments that you have made about baseball being like life and "life like baseball ain't fair", tells me you are avid fans of the game. I've made the same argument, no I've told my players many times "That's baseball. Man up..." However I'm LOL at the image of baseball fans who obviously love the game, the history of the game and defend the integrity of the game, defending Bud Selig. When has Bud ever had the integrity of the game as his prime or any semblance of his auxiliary motivation? Well, I will grant you the fact that Pete Rose still isn't in the HOF can be used as an example, but I'll claim that was Fay Vincent's doing and Bud didn't have the cojones to change it....
if this seems directed at yens, but as you might be able to tell, I'm not to fond of B.Selig......

(so, how 'bout that DH crap? When are they going to get rid of that sh!t??? )

[shilala]

Originally Posted by galaga

Making the arguments that you have made about baseball being like life and "life like baseball ain't fair", tells me you are avid fans of the game. I've made the same argument, no I've told my players many times "That's baseball. Man up..." However I'm LOL at the image of baseball fans who obviously love the game, the history of the game and defend the integrity of the game, defending Bud Selig. When has Bud ever had the integrity of the game as his prime or any semblance of his auxiliary motivation? Well, I will grant you the fact that Pete Rose still isn't in the HOF can be used as an example, but I'll claim that was Fay Vincent's doing and Bud didn't have the cojones to change it....
if this seems directed at yens, but as you might be able to tell, I'm not to fond of B.Selig......

(so, how 'bout that DH crap? When are they going to get rid of that sh!t??? )

Don't start!!!
Yes, Bud's a dick. Pete's a dick, too. Pete is why Pete isn't in the HOF. Charlie Hustle is quite possibly my favorite ballplayer of all-time, and I would LOVE to see him inducted. Quite frankly, I think he lied about not betting AND lied about betting to get his way. I don't think they had anything concrete except hearsay, but Pete did it and knew. He didn't want spanked, so he went with a lie and his hidden betting didn't get outed.
Then he said "Yeah, I did it", but still didn't come clean. I don't think he ever will come clean. Poor bugger is half nuts, anyways. Another reason I love him.
I'd love to see the whole DH thing gone, too. Or put to both leagues.